I am moving this to a new thread, moving it out of the Pray for Employment thread. It is about Our Lady of Good Help, the apparitions there, the warning given then, natural celestial occurrances and the fires that occurred around the time of October 8-12 in 1871. Really interesting stuff. I definitely think Our Lady of Good Help in the Green Bay area is a sanctuary, a safe place. After all, the story of the devistating fire that engulfed the entire area but left that site unharmed is proof enough. http://www.shrineofourladyofgoodhelp.co ... st_p5.html "The Peshtigo Fire—Miraculous Preservation Much has been written about the great Peshtigo Fire, which claimed an estimated 2500 lives; 10 times more than the great Chicago Fire, which occurred the same day." Part of the messages given to Sr. Adele had to do with punishment for the wrongdoing of men. The fire there has been considered a part of this punishment...was the Chicago fire also? BOTH fires occurred on the same day? I didn't know that until today! Probably most of the world doesn't know that because the Chicago fire is all you read about in History books. Part of the messages given to Sr. Adele had to do with punishment for the wrongdoing of men. The fire has been considered a part of this punishment...was the Chicago fire also? Here is more on the Peshtigo Fire if anyone is interested. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wioconto/Fire.htm It has been speculated that a meteor shower or some other contact, perhaps with a comet's tail or one of the pieces of a comet caused both this fire and the Chicago fire. They are in a "line", along the lake Michagan coastline. Sodom and Gomorrah comes to mind, doesn't it? Makes me wonder, were there other fires in other areas that night?
There were other fires! Why didn't we learn any of this in school? All I remember is the Chicago fire and that a cow in Catherine O'Leary's barn was blamed for it. They made up a story that a cow kicked over a lantern. Sure, that's what happened all along the Lake Michigan coastline on the sunday evening of Oct. 8, 1871. I am just floored at this. You learn something new every day. "On Sunday, October 8, 1871, the city, as well as places north in Sanilac, and Huron County, burned in the Port Huron Fire of 1871. A series of other fires leveled Holland and Manistee, Michigan, as well as Peshtigo, Wisconsin and Chicago on the same day." Quote: "Catherine O'Leary seemed the perfect scapegoat: she was an immigrant and Catholic, a combination which did not fare well in the political climate of the time in Chicago." "An alternative theory, first suggested in 1882, is that the Great Chicago Fire was caused by a meteor shower. At a 2004 conference of the Aerospace Corporation and the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, engineer and physicist Robert Wood suggested that the fire began when Biela's Comet broke up over the Midwest and rained down below. That four large fires took place, all on the same day, all on the shores of Lake Michigan (see Related Events), suggests a common root cause. Eyewitnesses reported sighting spontaneous ignitions, lack of smoke, "balls of fire" falling from the sky, and blue flames. According to Wood, these accounts suggest that the fires were caused by the methane that is commonly found in comets. However, since meteorites are not known to start fires and are usually cool to the touch after reaching the ground, this theory has not found favor in the scientific community." "On that hot, dry and windy autumn day, three other major fires occurred along the shores of Lake Michigan at the same time as the Great Chicago Fire. Some 250 miles (400 km) to the north, the massive Peshtigo Fire consumed the town of Peshtigo, Wisconsin along with a dozen other villages. It killed 1,200 to 2,500 people and charred approximately 1.5 million acres (6,000 km²). The Peshtigo Fire remains the deadliest in American history but the remoteness of the region meant it was little noticed at the time. Across the lake to the east, the town of Holland, Michigan, and other nearby areas burned to the ground. Some 100 miles (160 km) to the north of Holland the lumbering community of Manistee, Michigan, also went up in flames in what became known as The Great Michigan Fire. Farther east, along the shore of Lake Huron, the Port Huron Fire swept through Port Huron, Michigan and much of Michigan's "Thumb". Also on October 9, 1871 a fire swept through the City of Urbana, Illinois, 140 miles (230 km) south of Chicago, destroying portions of its downtown area. Windsor, Ontario likewise burned on October 12." "The city of Singapore, Michigan provided a large portion of the lumber to rebuild Chicago. As a result the town of Singapore was so heavily deforested that the area turned into barren sand dunes and the town had to be abandoned." COMET BIELA "This comet was first discovered in 1772 by Jacques Leibax Montaigne (1716-1785?), and also independently found and observed by Charles Messier (1730-1817) during this apparition. It was sighted again in 1805 when it was discovered by Pons. Eventually, it was discovered by Wilhelm Freiherr von Biela on February 27, 1826. Biela discovered this comet in Aries, and calculated its orbit. He found this one to be short-periodic with a period of 6.62 years, and recognized the former apparitions mentioned above. Therefore, it became known as Biela's comet, or comet 3P/Biela, as it was the third comet to have been shown to be periodic by observations on different appearances. Comet Biela was observed to decay into two comets in 1846, and observed for a last time in 1852. Its fragments are probably source of a meteor shower called Bielids, or Andromedids, occurring each year around October/November." They thought it returned every 6.62 years...or perhaps it was actually every 6.66 years? (sorry, I just couldn't help myself) St, Adele's first vision of Mary was on October 9, 1859. 12 years later the fires occurred. The comet or its two pieces should have returned that year, but no one saw it. Part of the comet could have remained, and could have a slightly shorter orbit than before, being a smaller body. Here is a huge article about the comet, very interesting, but a lot to read... http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/rag/rag32.htm This was no ordinary fire. It is described as a fire-tornado! One account says this: "At sundown there was a lull in the wind and comparative stillness. For two hours there were no signs of danger; but at a few minutes after nine o'clock, and by a singular coincidence, precisely the time at which the Chicago fire commenced, the people of the village heard a terrible roar. It was that of a tornado, crushing through the forests. Instantly the heavens were illuminated with a terrible glare. The sky, which had been so dark a moment before, burst into clouds of flame. A spectator of the terrible scene says the fire did not come upon them gradually from burning trees and other objects to the windward, but the first notice they had of it was a whirlwind of flame in great clouds from above the tops of the trees, which fell upon and entirely enveloped everything. The poor people inhaled it, or the intensely hot air, and fell down dead. This is verified by the appearance of many of the corpses. They were found dead in the roads and open spaces, where there were no visible marks of fire near by, with not a trace of burning upon their bodies or clothing. At the Sugar Bush, which is an extended clearing, in some places four miles in width, corpses were found in the open road, between fences only slightly burned. No mark of fire was upon them; they lay there as if asleep. This phenomenon seems to explain the fact that so many were killed in compact masses. They seemed to have huddled together, in what were evidently regarded at the moment as the safest places, far away from buildings, trees, or other inflammable material, and there to have died together." Sounds more like a bomb than a forest fire. There is more in the big article above. You know, it is interesting that the Comet Elenin scare we are having now revolves around these same dates? Just for fun, I did some math. From the apparition date of October 9, 1859, to the same date in 2011, is exactly 140 years. If you divide this by 6.66 years, you get 21.02 occurrances! (by 6.62 is it 21.15) This might mean that the year is right for the old comet fragments to return this year if they're still out there, along with Elenin. Hmmm. October 9, the anneversary of the apparitions at Our Lady of Good Help, falls on a sunday this year, and right in the middle of the Elenin scare (its closest proximity date is Oct. 16-17, but the tail will begin to hit us sooner, around Sept. 26, they say). I just had a thought...when was the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima? It was October 13, 1917. (Nope, the math doesn't work). Good, then the old comet doesn't explain that miracle. This is all so interesting. And Our Lady of Good Help was in the middle of it! See what happens when we don't listen to our Mother? Will we ever learn? I'm afraid even the warning to come won't convince her stubborn, thick-headed children.
