New Vatican Document on Our Lady

Discussion in 'Mother of God' started by FiliMariae, Nov 4, 2025.

  1. Philothea

    Philothea Archangels

    Why this document? Well maybe because inorder to arrive to the antichrist's religion/deception which ultimately will be glorification of man anything supernatural needs to be whacked, hacked and as best eliminated as possible.

    I loved this line from Chris Jackson which Brian posted:

    The new Vatican document Mater Populi Fidelis lands with the tone of an apology written to Protestant houseguests. It pretends to “clarify” Marian devotion but really performs a slow erasure; wrapping up centuries of theology and piety into a few cautious phrases about “maternal closeness.” The title sounds like a lullaby; the substance reads like damage control.

    Slow erasure is the game and I would argue this started earlier when that pathetic man "Tucho" released the document on how to discern supernatural phenomenon. There is no more supernatural phenomenon for him, there can be no Fatima, no Lourdes, no Guadalupe. At the most you will get a stamp of "nihil obstat."
    Slow. Erasure.
     
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  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I don't know how these people sleep at night. But I will keep on praying for them all.

    I suppose it hardly bears saying but Tucho could not have done this without Leo himself being up to his neck in it.
     
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  3. Philothea

    Philothea Archangels

    Agreed. All I can do: pray and keep the flame of faith alive in my little family.

    Yep, if people were still on the fence about Leo, well maybe now they will see him for what he is.

    Just keep praying...
     
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  4. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Pondering on this, I see a natural clash between good and evil. Good has the nature of absorbing all attacks while sacrificing itself entirely for the other. Evil is the inverse. Attacking everything while sacrificing the other entirely for itself. So it becomes obvious that evil will come to feed on the good parasitically. We also know that as Good becomes weaker, it becomes stronger (a paradox).

    In this instance Our Lady could not help but be attacked by evil, because evil cannot help itself. It only knows how to attack. In these attacks on Our Lady we also saw the antibody response of the good. The good standing up, educating themselves and proclaiming the Truth. In the attacking of the Good by the evil, the church has only been made stronger as a result. Weaker visibly perhaps, but constitutionally stronger.

    Those who can see, will also know the trend of attacks by evil on Our Lady are nothing new as of late. Further clarifying what exactly is the Good and what is not. So in attacking the Good, evil has only made itself weaker and more vulnerable/exposed. Therefore, evil is literally destroying itself with each attack on Our Lady. But evil can't help itself, it always goes too far.

    Reminds me of how the snake bites at the heel but gets its head crushed.
     
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  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    O Mary conceived without sin, we love you and trust in the Maternal prayers and protection that you extend to your children through your Immaculate Heart! St. Joseph, chosen head of the Holy Family, intercede for us! Most Holy Trinity, enlighten your Catholic Church with the discernment and graces she needs to traverse this divisive moment.

    May the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart and the destruction of satan's wiles soon usher in the Era of Peace! :notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:
     
  6. sparrow

    sparrow Powers

    Amen!
     
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  7. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    This excerpt from The Way of Divine Love by Sister Josefa Menendez tells us exactly what Our Lord thought of His Mother.

    Josefa had asked for a prayer from Jesus that would help her honor the Blessed Mother as she deserved. The following are the words of Our Lord.

    “Josefa,” He said to her that night, “is it true that you would like something to say to My Mother that would please her? Write what I tell you.”

    “Then in ardent, burning, even enthusiastic words,” she noted, He said this prayer:

    “ ‘O tender and loving Mother, most prudent Virgin, Mother of my Redeemer, I come to salute you today with all the love that a child can feel for its mother.

    “ ‘Yes, I am indeed your child, and because I am so helpless I will take the fervor of the Heart of your Divine Son; with Him I will salute you as the purest of creatures, for you were framed according to the wishes and desires of the thrice-holy God.

    “ ‘Conceived without sin, exempt from all corruption, you were ever faithful to the impulses of grace, and so your soul accumulated such merit that it was raised above all other creatures.

    “ ‘Chosen to be the Mother of Jesus Christ, you kept Him as in a most pure sanctuary, and He who came to give life to souls, Himself took life from you, and received nourishment from you.

    “ ‘O incomparable Virgin! Immaculate Virgin! Delight of the Blessed Trinity, admiration of all angels and saints, you are the joy of Heaven. Morning Star, Rose blossoming in springtime, Immaculate Lily, tall and graceful Iris, sweet-smelling Violet. Garden enclosed kept for the delight of the King of Heaven . . . you are my Mother, Virgin most prudent, Ark most precious containing every virtue! you are my Mother, most powerful Virgin, Virgin clement and faithful! you are my Mother, O Refuge of sinners! I salute you and rejoice at the sight of the gifts bestowed on you by the Almighty, and of the prerogatives with which He has crowned you!

    “ ‘Be blessed and praised, Mother of my Redeemer, Mother of poor sinners! Have pity on us and cover us with your motherly protection.

    “ ‘I salute you in the name of all men, of all saints and all angels.

    “ ‘Would that I could love you with the love and fire of the Seraphim, and this is too little to satisfy my desires . . . and to render you filial homage constant and pure for all eternity.

    “ ‘O incomparable Virgin, bless me, since I am your child. Bless all men! Protect them and pray for them to Him who is almighty and can refuse you nothing.

    “ ‘Adieu, tender and sweet Mother; day and night I salute you, in time and for eternity.’

    “Now, Josefa, praise the Mother with the words of the Son, and the Son with those of His Mother.”

    “Never,” said Josefa, “had I seen His Heart so resplendent, nor heard in His voice such burning enthusiasm!”
     
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  8. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    These are the words that Our Lady gave to Josefa to honor Her Son. There is not and never will be another Mother such as the one that Heaven bestowed upon us!

    On March 16th Our Lady responded to Josefa’s request of the day before, and gave her a fresh proof of her motherly love.

    “You wanted to ask me something yesterday?” she said kindly, when that evening she came while Josefa was at her needlework. “What was it?”

    Josefa answered that she wanted to know how best to pray to Our Lord so as to give Him pleasure.

    “I shall tell you,” was Our Lady’s reply, “but go up to your cell, where you can write.”

    She had hardly reached her cell when she was joined by Our Lady.

    “What pleases My Son most is love and humility—so write: ‘O sweet and dearly loved Jesus, wert Thou not my Saviour, I should not dare to come to Thee, but Thou art both my Saviour and my Bridegroom, and Thy Heart loves me with the most tender and burning love, as no other Heart can love. Would that I could correspond with this love of Thine for me. Would that I had for Thee, who art my only love, all the ardor of the Seraphim, the purity of the angels and virgins, the holiness of the Blessed who possess Thee and glorify Thee in Heaven.

    “ ‘Were I able to offer Thee all this, it would still be too little to honor Thy goodness and mercy. That is why I offer Thee my poor heart such as it is, with all its miseries, its weakness and good desires. Deign to purify it in the blood of Thy Heart, to transform and inflame it Thyself with an ardent and pure love. Thus the poor creature that I am, who can do no good but is capable of every evil, will love and glorify Thee as do the Seraphim who in Heaven are consumed with adoring love.

    “ ‘Lastly, I ask of Thee, O gentle Jesus, to give my heart the very sanctity of Thy Heart, or rather to plunge it in Thy Divine Heart, that in It I may love and serve and glorify Thee, and lose myself in Thee for all eternity. I beg this same grace for all those whom I love. May they render Thee for me the glory and honor of which my sins have deprived Thee.’ ”

    Then Josefa shyly asked this most kind and indulgent Mother to tell her of an ejaculatory prayer that she could repeat over and over again while at her work.

    “Say these words which He will love: ‘O my Beloved, who art also my God, make my heart a flame of pure love for Thee.’

    “And every evening before you fall asleep, say with much respect and confidence:

    “ ‘O Thou who knewest all my misery before Thine eyes were fixed on me—Thou didst not turn away from my wretchedness . . . but because of it Thou didst love me with a love more sweet and tender. I beg pardon for having corresponded so little to Thy love. . . . I beg of Thee to forgive me, and to purify my actions in Thy Divine Blood. I am deeply grieved at having offended Thee, because Thou art infinitely Holy. I repent with heartfelt sorrow and I promise to do all in my power to avoid these faults in the future.’

    “After which in all tranquility and joy take your rest.”
     
  9. sparrow

    sparrow Powers

    :love::notworthy:
     
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  10. AED

    AED Powers

    I LOVE The Way of Divine Love. I remember this beautiful prayer our Lord gave Sister Josefa. Thank you for writing it here.
     
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  11. AED

    AED Powers

    Another prayer I love and often pray.
     
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  12. InVeritatem

    InVeritatem Archangels

    These prayers of Josefa are sublime!
     
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  13. AED

    AED Powers

    Her diary is filled wonderful prayers of reparation to the Sacred Heart that Jesus gave her himself.
     
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  14. Clare A

    Clare A Powers

    It has been on my mind that the titles Mediatrix of all Graces and Co-Redemptrix are not the only ones that confuse and annoy Protestants. The Immaculate Conception is frequently misunderstood as people think it means Mary was conceived in the same way as Jesus, that is by direct action of the Holy Spirit. I wondered why this expression was also not under the cosh.

    Then last night it came to me. It was declared ex cathedra by the Pope just before the apparition at Lourdes. Tucho can’t touch it.

    O Mary conceived without sin pray for us who have recourse to thee.
     
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  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I am trying to recall the last time I heard of a Protestant Sect changing any of their teachings to please us. I can't. Bend over backwards enough and we'll end up falling 0ver.
     
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    padraig Powers

  17. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Just as i have done on this thread Jesse Romero calls into question the position of Cardinal Fernandez given his scandalous works that he has not publicly repented of.


    Jesse Romero unleashes a no-holds-barred exposé on Cardinal Victor Fernández—his erotic books, condom theology, same-sex blessings, and decades-long heresy file—proving he’s unfit for the Vatican’s top doctrinal post.
     
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  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I am very,very afraid of what is coming down the line right, right at us. The most terrible scandals which will engulf the entire Church, including, but especially pointing to Pope Leo himself.##

    All heresies begin below the waist.##

    But it is better to know than not to.

    These terrible things are still being carried on in the Vatican itself. We are dealing with demons.

    It will all come out in the wash. Better to know than not to know.
     
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  19. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Thank you for this prayer, so reverent and yet joyful!

    O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee! Praise God for the whole and holy Communion of Saints!:ROFLMAO::love:
     
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  20. childofdivinewill

    childofdivinewill Archangels

    (Let's all pray for the proclamation of the fifth Marian dogma, as requested by Our Lady. For some reason, although St. Pope John Paul II was petitioned to do so, he did not act on it during his long pontificate. We do not know when the proclamation will occur, but it certainly will in God’s time, perhaps during the pontificate of the holy Pope of the end times.)

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    The Lady of All Nations

    https://www.amsterdamapparitions.com/fifth-marian-dogma

    WHY A NEW MARIAN DOGMA?

    The popes of the Catholic Church, based on Scripture and Tradition, have officially taught over the course of centuries that the Virgin Mary, Mother of Jesus, is also the Spiritual Mother of all peoples. Mary performs this role as spiritual mother to humanity in three basic ways.

    First, Mary consented to be the Mother of Jesus (Lk 1:38), and thereby by her “fiat” or “yes” brought Jesus, the divine Redeemer, into the world (Lk 2:7). Mary also shared in the suffering of her Son, as was prophesied by Simeon, that her heart too would be “pierced” (Lk 2:35). At Calvary, Mary’s motherly heart suffered in union with her crucified Son, and she offered her suffering in union with that of Jesus to the Heavenly Father for the redemption of the world (Jn 19:25-27). For this role, Mary is called by the Church the “Co-redemptrix” or female co-redeemer with Jesus. As Pope Saint John Paul II explained, “Crucified spiritually with her crucified Son….her role as Co-redemptrix did not cease with the glorification of her Son” (L’Osserv. Rom., March 11, 1985). Mary is the mother who spiritually suffers for her earthly children.

    Secondly, Mary is the mother who spiritually nourishes her earthly children by dispensing the graces of salvation. As she did at the Wedding of Cana (Jn. 2:1-10), Mary intercedes to bring the graces of Jesus to all of humanity. As she “mediated” or interceded to bring Jesus himself, the Source of all graces, into the world (Lk 1:38; Lk 2:7), Mary is appointed by Jesus himself at the climax of his redeeming sacrifice on the cross to become the spiritual mother of all peoples and to dispense to humanity the graces of Jesus, when he says to Mary, “Behold, your son” (Jn. 19:26). Jesus then tells John, and all those who seek to become beloved disciples of Jesus, to “behold your Mother”(Jn. 19:26). For this role of dispensing the saving graces of Jesus to her earthly children, Mary is called the “Mediatrix of all graces.” As Pope Saint John Paul II explained, “Mediatrix is implicit in the term, Mother.” (L’Osserv. Rom., Oct. 1, 1997).

    Thirdly, Mary brings the needs of mankind to the throne of Christ. She is the principal intercessor on behalf of her earthly children, and as Queen, she has the greatest possible intercessory power to Jesus, the King of the Kingdom of God, for humanity’s needs. In the Old Testament, the Queen Mother of the King had the greatest power of intercession to her son, the king in the line of David, on behalf of the Jewish people (1 Kings 2:19). In the New Testament, Mary is the new Queen Mother who give birth to the “King of Kings” (Lk 2:7), and is crowned as the Queen and Advocate in the Kingdom of God (Rev 12:1-6), becoming the greatest intercessor for the people of God to Christ the King. For this role of interceding for humanity, Mary is called the “Advocate”, her most ancient title, dating back to the 2nd century (St. Irenaeus, Adv. Haer.V).

    Up to this point in history, the Church has proclaimed four “dogmas” or solemnly pronounced doctrines about the Virgin Mary: 1) that Mary is the Mother of God (Council of Ephesus, 431); 2. that she is a Perpetual Virgin (Lateran Council, 649); 3) that Mary was conceived without original sin, or her “Immaculate Conception” (Bl. Pius IX, 1854); and 4) that she was assumed body and soul into heaven, or her “Assumption” (Pius XII, 1950). The last major doctrine about Mary is her role as Spiritual Mother of all peoples under its three motherly aspects as Co-redemptrix, Mediatrix of all graces, and Advocate, which is already the official teachings of the popes, or the “Papal Magisterium.” What then would be the benefit of a solemn proclamation of a “fifth dogma” of Mary’s spiritual motherhood by the Holy Father?

    The proclamation of Mary’s Spiritual Motherhood by the Pope would satisfy God’s condition of never forcing grace upon us. The Holy Father’s free acknowledgement and solemn announcement of Mary’s roles would allow her to fully enact these motherly roles of intercession on behalf of humanity. The titles of Co-redemptrix, Mediatrix of all graces, and Advocate are actually her spiritual functions for the human race, and when the highest human authority in the world freely proclaims these Marian titles, it will, in a certain sense, “free” or release Mary to fully bring into action these motherly functions of grace for the world in their greatest possible capacities.

    The proclamation of the Dogma of Mary Co-redemptrix, Mediatrix, and Advocate by the Holy Father will enable the Mother of Jesus to shower the world with a historic outpouring of grace, redemption, and peace in a new and dynamic way—an event which Marian apparitions like Fatima refer to as the “Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.”

    In the 1910’s, Cardinal Mercier of Belgium began a petition movement to the Holy Father for the papal definition of Mary’s universal mediation. In the early 1920’s, St. Maximilian Kolbe added his voice for the solemn definition of Mary as Co-redemptrix and Mediatrix of all graces. As was the case in the movements leading up to the last two papal definitions of Mary’s Immaculate Conception and Assumption, millions of petitions from cardinals, bishops, clergy, religious and the lay faithful the world over have been sent to the Holy Father in support of this solemn dogmatic proclamation of Mary’s spiritual motherhood.

    The Church-approved apparitions of the Lady of All Nations in Amsterdam, Holland (1945-1959; Church approval, May 31, 2002) confirm that only with the proclamation of the Dogma of Mary Co-redemptrix, Mediatrix, and Advocate will Mary be able to intercede for “true peace for the world” (May 31, 1954 message). The Lady of All Nations also called all peoples to “petition the Holy Father” for this fifth Marian Dogma (May 31, 1954 message), and to pray daily the “Prayer of the Lady of All Nations” for the accomplishment of this Fifth Dogma:

    Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Father, send now your Spirit over the earth. Let the Holy Spirit live in the hearts of all nations, that they may be preserved from degeneration, disasters, and war. May the Lady of All Nations, the Blessed Virgin Mary, be our Advocate. Amen.” (Feb. 11, 1951).
     
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