Peter, I am very happy to hear you intend studying the San Nicolas messages. After buying the book of the English translated messages in the early 90s, I believed in them quite deeply, finding them simple, yet profound and very beautiful. The seer, Gladys, was a very simple soul who had no experience of the thousands of locutionists that have since come forward. The messages are directed "to all Christians". I would love to know what Pope Francis thinks of them as he must be familiar with them coming from Argentina. My concern about Anne the lay apostle comes from the money associated with her mission and that she now has linked herself in quite a strong way with the local hierarchy. When everything eventually comes to light about her (as it will), this will harm those priests as well as impacting belief in authentic prophecy.
Thank you, Peter, for your hard work and praise God that we here have the opportunity to benefit from the Two Hearts who call to us incessantly. Jesus, give us the grace to generously respond! Safe in the Father's Arms!
Yes David Dr Miravelle made a mistake grouping in Edson Granuber with 'Ann the Lay Apostle' I agree. I have reservations about her myself. Still I am very fond of Dr Miravelle, two things on the video made me smile. Firstly the huge bundle or resarch notes in front of him. Secondlty the fact that his booksheleves are actually bent under the weight of his books. We owe a huge debit of gratitude to people like himself and Peter , Theologians at the very cutting edge of things, prepared to roll up their sleeves and do the hard work. Discernment I think comes from study like this ,from the head, rather than the heart. Certainly that is the road the Church herself goes down. I am a little heartened that the Dr Miravelle may have blundered slightly with Ann, for it goes to show even with deep Theological Research folks can still err. Shows they are human, as are we all.
I don't want to go off Peters' four visionaries and the Pope too much or I will never get finished. But anyone is welcome to put up a seperate thread about Ann for discussion.
Thanks Peter!! Looking forward to reading about this lady!! So many Visionaries who appear to be authentic!! It is mind blowing!!
To continue the messages of Edson Glauber, Peter mentions in his book: Virgin Mary, July 25, 2013 (Regarding the visit of Pope Francis to Brazil) 'Brazil is receiving a visit from my dearest son. This is a great grace for the Brazilian Nation, perticularly for many young people. Young people need the love of my Son, jesus and the Pope's prescese will bring many young people closer to the Heart of My Dine Son. If Brazil and the young people acccept the Pope's appeals, God will still have mercy upon you/them , granting you/them His peace andgreat graces. He entrusted Brazil to me, asking for my intercession and I am asking , before God's THrone for blessings and graces from heaven for my Brazilian children and for all my children in the whole World. Young people need to find my Son , Jesus , close to them and what is the Pope doing? He is going to meet the suffering people, smiling and conveying love, joy and peace to troubled and wounded hearts, because He knows that nly thus will many return to True Fiath. Follow the example of the Holy Father , O Bishops and priests: leave vanities , money , pleasure and power and becomehumble and dedicated servants who preach God's Gospel, welcomming everyone with love and respect. I bless you all, United to the Holy Father , in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen
It's probably been raked over enough already - the threads already exist, but I just wanted to put in a minor defense where I perceived a minor assault. I'm happy to leave it in God's hands
2. 'Mother of the King of Kings ', Chaldean vsionary , Michigan, USA The second visionary Peter quotes is, I am ashamed to say another one I know little or nothing about but who is a Cahldean woman who lives in the USA and has been gving messages from heaven since 2008 and apparently has recieved attention from Bishops and Archbishops. http://www.motherofthekingofkings.com/
17th Apparition ; Friday March 15th, 2013 'Pray for the Pope so that he can fulfil his mission.' 18th Apparition; Easter Sunday March 31st , 2013 'Pray much for the new Pope so that he will not encounter difficulties' 135th Message; Thursday April 4, 2013 'Pray, pray, pray for this Pope (Francis) so that he will not encounter many difficulties. He is a simple person' You know of all the four visionaries Peter quotes this is the one that interests me most. It is because of a remark on this final message quoted which says, 'He is a simple person'. I never ever somehow thought of the Pope as being, 'Simple', before! I always thought of him being very,very highly educated, an intellectual in fact, a man of the world and wsie in the ways of the world. This remark by Our Lady (apparently) threw me a lot. It puts Pope Francis in a very different light, suggesting as it does to me that he is being etrayed or misled in some way by some Judas'(s) . Or am I reading too much into this??!! Anyway judge for yourself. In either case a most interesting comment. View attachment 4002
I would think Francis always sees the good in people and rarely the bad or he overlooks the bad. He may not be aware or see any plots against him or the church as a result. I would think 'simple' here is a compliment and points to his true gospel based approach to his pontificate and to humanity. As was mentioned before may not know all the in's and out's of western geopolitics and organizations such as the club of Rome, Agenda 21, etc. I don't think this takes from his intelligence.
I share the concerns about Anne incidentally. She is massively supported by the Diocese of Kilmore and I hope they haven't made a mistake there...ah well.
If ', 'Simple', were a positive , then why would would Our Lady ask for prayers on its account? If it were were positive ..and a compliment then why the need for prayer? I am not sure, 'Overlooking the bad' , may be a good thing. It was Jesus who said, 'Be you innocent as a dove but as subtle as the serpent'. I am not sure that going about with your eyes closed and not seeing evil, would be a , 'Gospel based approach'.
Here is a good article on the virtue of simplicity and it's counterpart, prudence: Basically we must prudent in our dealing towards others but exercise simplicity in our own lives and towards God. http://www.christianperfection.info/tta65.php
It's difficult to know exactly what 'simple' means in this context, not least because the message in question was not received in English but in a contemporary dialect of Aramaic (then transliterated into Arabic) according to the helpful background information at http://www.motherofthekingofkings.com/english/introduction.htm . So there may be some nuance here that is not coming over in translation. This having been said, my own intuition is that Pope Francis is indeed 'simple' in the sense of a certain innocence, which is both one of his most endearing characteristics and a character trait that makes him potentially vulnerable to manipulation. I have said this before, but last year ex-Mafioso turned police collaborator and anti-Mafia activist Vincenzo Calcara, who was peripherally involved in the assassination attempt on John Paul II and has a considerable amount of information about dark deeds of the early 1980s involving the Vatican Bank etc., went on the record as saying (as well as sending an open letter to the Pope) that Francis was being manipulated by a powerful Cardinal whom Calcara knew personally from his Mafia days when he acted as a go-between for La Cosa Nostra in dealing with the Curia. The implicit charges against this prelate were so serious - including complicity in Satanic rituals - that Calcara would not reveal his identity, but the journalist who released the article with his remarks left some telltale clues in the text. On the basis of these I'm pretty sure that I know who is being talked about, and I consider Calcara credible (though obviously not infallible), but all that I will say on a public forum is that i) this individual - who is not very well-known to the general public outside Italy - is thought by more than one source at to have high-ranking Masonic connections ii) his past behaviour has been the object of unusually trenchant criticism from at least two established Vatican commentators (Paul Badde of Die Welt and French journalist Nicolas Diat - co-author of Cardinal Sarah's God or Nothing -, Diat publishing an astonishingly forthright unsigned clergy testimony in his account of Benedict XVI's Papacy entitled L'homme qui ne voulait pas être Pape) iii) in case you're wondering, I'm absolutely not talking about Cardinal Kasper, nor about Cardinal Bertone, who seems to have eaten some humble pie of late following many accusations of financial impropriety, donating €150 000 to the Bambino Gesù hospital in acknowledgement of the damage to the institution's reputation caused by his actions. Kudos to him for that!! iv) I find myself pondering the words of the messaged allegedly conveyed to Pedro Regis (#3046, August 29, 2008): 'the one who could have been Peter will become Judas. He will open the doors for the enemy[...]' This is more than uncanny, for if my deduction is correct - which of course it may not be - then according to the anonymous Vatican insider quoted by Nicolas Diat, the very next month, i.e. in September 2008, the Cardinal in question took deliberate action to undermine actions of Benedict XVI of which he personally disapproved by contacting friends who were 'historical and inveterate enemies of the Church' in order to discredit Papa Ratzinger. Better stop here as if I say any more than this I could get in trouble... May the Lord reveal what needs to be revealed concerning his House! 'Therefore whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered behind closed doors will be proclaimed from the housetops.' (Luke 12:3)
Yes, this is pretty well what I think. It is the most extraordinary message.It has had me thinking ever since I read it.
I take it he is Italian cardinal then if he is not well known outside of Italy. There are 48 Italian cardinals to choose from. Didn't realise there were so many. I suppose there will always be bad apples!
I am glad he had the sense at the beginning of his pontificate to ask all of us for a daily three hail Marys. Hopefully enough people will do this for him. I have no doubt there are those who are trying to snare our Pope.
Padraig, I read the bible daily based on a schedule I am following and in today's reading I am in Proverbs 14, here is the line I start today. This ties in with what you wrote a few posts back 18 The childish shall possess folly, and the prudent shall look for knowledge. One other thing I never mentioned before, shortly after Pope Francis became Pope I had this dream. I was in a small church and I stood on the edge of the alter where Pope Benedict was also standing. We looked around the small church and all or most of the seats were knocked over, the room was a bit of a mess. He looked at me and said "Will you help me rebuild my church" Not sure why Benedict was in the dream and not Francis. Saying that I am still 100% behind my current Pope.
