Medjugorje - "The Great Prophecy" Is Unfolding

Yes, in the USA you can still say Merry Christmas, I do it all the time. The morals in the US are fading quickly, as foretold in the Garabanal messages: (When Will The Warning Happen? Conchita told the author in 1965 when everything would be set in motion: “When communism comes again everything will happen”. The author responded: “What do you mean by ‘comes again’?” “Yes, when it newly comes again,” she replied. “Does that mean that communism will go away before that?” “I don’t know,” she said in reply, “The Blessed Virgin simply said ‘when communism comes again’.”

Well, the US and the rest of the world are being enveloped in the seed of Russia (communism) as we speak. However in your beloved Russia, if the media say anything against the government you a dead or go missing. I am not sure where you are getting your resources, but Russia is still a totalitarian government and its errors have spread throughout the whole world while they buddy up to the blind Orthodox leaders.

 

Peter,
I was under the impression that Khodorkovsky was just a Rothschield puppet and Putin was trying to rid his country of this Zionist influence. Not true?

 

Padraig,

Your points are well taken, however you fail to mention who is causing all these wars in the middle-east that Putin may/may not be taking advantage of. Who is funding Al Queda and the muslim brotherhood. Putin may be faking it, however you have to admit, on face value, you would take his rhetoric any day over Obama's(and what politician doesn't lie). As your picture points out (Obama at ND), it is the catholics in the US who publicly support this blood-sucking murderer! And if he's not, than Putin sure is not.

 

One last thing. As I understand it, Russia has a 15% flat tax. Unbelievable! While we in the west are getting creamed in taxes and even paying a global warming tax to the banksters., and I hear there may even be a bail-in coming for anyone with money in the banks, aka more banksters stealing. Who are the communist!

 

I'm a Catholic in the US ( the Peoples Republic of NY) . I don't support Obama. In fact, I'm at the point where I don't really support any politician.

 

Obama/people behind him may be just as bad if not worse:

BOMBSHELL: Ex-CIA Agent Claims Obama Had Breitbart and Clancy Killed
By Clash Daily / 11 October 2013 / 459 Comments

Brandon Walker/FreePatriot.org – Doctor Jim Garrow, philanthropist and worker for one of the largest non-profit organizations on the planet to save female children from slaughter in China. He has been featured on several media outlets throughout the world. Last Sunday, as a guest of Now the End Begins internet radio program however, he dropped a bombshell on the world. Dr. Garrow claims that up to a week ago he was covert CIA. To top it off on the program, he states he knows that President Obama ordered the hits that killed Tom Clancy and Andrew Breitbart!
According to Garrow …
Andrew Breitbart died under mysterious circumstances. The autopsy said that he died with no prescription drugs in his system and only a .04 blood alcohol content not days after taping an interview with the now also deceased “alleged” gay lover of President Barack H. Obama. So why if he died of natural causes did the FBI go after his widow for potential homicide?
Well according to Dr. Jim Garrow, Andrew Breitbart was not dead of natural causes. According to the interview, he was killed directly by the Obama Administration. Andrew Breitbart was known for his controversy against the administration and the news media. Several people believed he was killed including some of the main founders of www.breitbart.com in his memory.
Then there was Tom Clancy. Tom Clancy died last week at the age of 66. Although they say “natural causes”, the actual list of cause of death on his autopsy, cause of death unknown.
Tom Clancy once said:
I hang my hat on getting as many things right as I can. I’ve made up stuff that’s turned out to be real — that’s the spooky part.”-Tom Clancy to the New York Times
It is no secret when he wrote The Hunt for the Red October that he was met at the door by Pentagon officials and FBI agents demanding to know where he got top-secret documents. Dr. Garrow states that after the incident, the CIA “spoon fed” him classified information and scenarios to write his novels in a manner that was entertaining but contained that ever needed element of truth. Dr. Garrow says that is why he was killed because he was getting to close to a secret they don’t want the world to know. In fact Dr. Garrow attributes the statement quoted above as “a little too late”.
Dr. Garrow states President Obama had Tom Clancy killed as well and noted that it takes 5 days for plant toxins and most poisons to break down and leave no traces in the human body. Amazingly enough, or coincidentally, the doctors did not perform an autopsy on Tom Clancy’s body for 5 days.
Finally he revealed a revelation so shocking to the radio program that can be best described in their own words:

Lastly, he revealed that Obama’s administration was made up of Marxist Muslims who all take their orders from Senior Adviser to the President, Iranian-born Valerie Jarrett. Dr. Garrow said that it is well known to intelligence agencies all over the world that Obama is a foreign plant who was placed on the path to the presidency by ultra-rich Saudi nationals This is why, Garrow said, that all of Obama’s education records have been permanently sealed.- Now The End Begins

Read more at http://clashdaily.com/2013/10/bombshell-ex-cia-agent-claims-obama-killed-breitbart-clancy/#EPOMm9eQA3GKXsv3.99​

 

Well, that wasn't my impression - although he was hardly squeaky-clean and was definitely presumptuous in thinking that his wealth made him untouchable by the Putin régime (he could easily have avoided prosecution by simply leaving the country), Khodorkovsky was basically kept behind bars for an unjustifiable length of time in order to stop him running for political office. It seems that he was humbled in a good sense by his prison experience and demonstrated considerable moral courage during his trial and incarceration. For me, the fact that one of his principal active supporters has been the world's greatest Eastern Orthodox composer, Arvo Pärt (appointed to the Pontifical Council for Culture by Benedict XVI), counts for a great deal. Pärt (one of the most remarkable people I have ever met, spiritual disciple of Archimandrite Sophrony Sakharov and thus 'grandson' of St Silouan of Mount Athos) was himself persona non grata with the KGB after writing an overtly Christian 'Credo' in 1968, so he has first-hand knowledge of the Russian state apparatus and its workings. His 'Los Angeles' symphony n.4 (based on an Orthodox prayer to the Holy Guardian Angel) is dedicated to Khodorkovsky and Russian political prisoners. Listen to the opening few minutes and I think you'll understand more than I can put in words.

 

I can't resist coming in on this thread. Yes, Russia is hugely important in the whole Fatima prophecy and subsequent prophecies (such as Garabandal). I remain a little uncertain about Putin but feel his religious enthusiasm is based mainly on its usefulness for keeping the people on his side. I view Putin's predecessor and sometimes sidekick, Dmitry Medvedev, quite differently and believe him to be a genuine, humble, believer but he doesn't seem very popular in Russia at the moment.

But Khodorkovsky is something else. His recent release and departure from Russia reminded me so much of Solzhenitsyn's exile many years ago. Khodorkovsky is no Solzhenitsyn but there are similarities and I am very interested to read about Peter's information about Arvo Pärt's support. I think we should watch Khodorkovsky closely in the years ahead.

 

I would give two signs that will show the Conversion of Russia. When you see the cities of Rome and Moscow burn, then that will be the dawn. As I say Russia must go through a baptism of blood.

The prophesies of Garabandal were accurate about all this; I do not write this because of them; because of Garabandal ;but because of certain things I have been shown in prayer myself.

 

..I don't write this to depress people, we all have choices, if we repent as Our Lady says these things can be avoided. But the simple fact is we are not doing what Mary asked. A few, a very few are.

Most aren't. Mary is not been sent from heaven for a chat.

 

People like Obama are I believe only fronts for the people with real power. Satan is not called the Lord of This World for nothing.
Putin of course is a front too.

 

picadillo, I share your disgust for American politics over the past 20+ years or so. I share you disgust with the moral decay in the US. I share you disgust for clergy loosing their faith. However, I would contend the only reason that you fail to report and see the same, and worse, in Russia today is because no negative news can come out of there press without them being killed or missing forever. Our press still has freedom to report, although most do not report honestly because they are in bed with Obama. If Russia had a free press I don't think you would be singing their praises of conversion. You see the US decay because of a free press and TV shows that exploit its sinfulness. Not so in Russia. Their press and media outlets are very very controlled.

 

I would like to thank everybody for this incredibly informative discussion. Peter B wrote a piece on the Cletus
Schefers page that I believe speaks exactly how God the Father views this issue. Thanks to all.

 

The quote goes as follows:

The Russian people will be the people who glorify God the most. Regarding the West: the West has made civilization progress, but without God, as if they were their own creators.

The great prophecy is unfolding as you say but there is a long way to go. I agree with Padraig that the true conversion of Russia will only fully occur after much suffering but we can see the building blocks being laid as foundation for the fulfillment of the Fatima and Medjugorje prophecies.

 

This american / west exceptionalism is a sad affair. Are the Christians in Syrias, not suffering? Who needs to suffer to achieve a certain measure? Hollywood starlets?
There is much suffering occurring today. To Our Lady a murdered child of an Arab Christian is equal to the death of western college co-eds. The Russian people lost 60,000,00 people because of WWII and atheist communism. Russia has suffered greatly. Perhaps because Russia suffered so much that they have sympathy for the Christian victims of rape and murder in the middle eat.

 

I would like to quote Father Malachi Martin's words upon reading the actual 3rd secret of Fatima in 1960:

Taken all together, the clues he revealed about the Third Secret can be divided into three categories, which he lists in his book, The Keys of This Blood:
“A physical chastisement of the nations, involving catastrophes, man-made or natural, on land, on water and in the atmosphere of the globe. A spiritual chastisement … [consisting] of the disappearance of religious belief, a period of widespread unfaith in many countries. A central function of Russia in the two preceding series of events. In fact, the physical and spiritual chastisements, according to Lucia’s letter, are to be gridded on a fateful timetable in which Russia is the ratchet.”
It is not hard to see that the whole world now fits into his warning of "the disappearance of religious belief, a period of widespread unfaith in many countries". One should also heed the warning of Sister Lucia, that "the physical and spiritual chastisements, according to Lucia’s letter, are to be gridded on a fateful timetable in which Russia is the ratchet".

 

Sorry Peter B, this is exactly who I thought Mickhail Khodorovsky is:

The Real Crime of M. Khodorkovsky
January 21, 2011

There is an excellent article on VoltaireNet.org entitled "The Real Crime of M. Khodorkovsky" by F. William Engdahl, which I recommend. In his short article, Engdahl explains how Khodorkovsky was working with George H.W. Bush, Jacob Rothschild, Henry Kissinger, and George Soros to take over the vital oil assets of Russia - in order to destroy Russia as a "functioning state". This plot was clearly not hatched in Washington nor was this being carried out to benefit the American people. The only beneficiaries of this criminal plot were the small group of men behind it.

The astute reader will notice that this is the same group of people who, I contend, are at the highest-level of the global hoax and cover-up of 9/11. I am listed in something called the Encyclopedia of American Loons because my research and findings indicate that these people are the real culprits behind 9/11. As the Encyclopedia says of my thesis : "9-11 was the product of a Zionist conspiracy (in particular organized by the Rothschild family) – the Zionist conspiracy that controls the US government and media." (See "Slaying the Debt Spider")

As Engdahl explains in his article, Khodorkovsky had a contractual agreement with Jacob Rothschild that in the event of his arrest and incarceration, Khodorkovsky's shares of 40 percent of Yukos would belong to Rothschild. This is a pretty good indication of who was financing Khodorkovsky's attempt to take over the vital oil assets of Russia. Khodorkovsky was a Rothschild-funded agent on the front line in the war to plunder Russia. Engdahl explains that Khodorkovsky was working closely with Henry Kissinger, George H.W. Bush, and George Soros, which raises the question of who is the top dog. It's pretty clear that these men are merely senior officers in Rothschild's army, as are the Clintons and Obamas.

 

Western Media's infatuation with Khodorkovsky has intrigued me for sometime. I find some of the points on this board, about this strange issue, very insightful. Why is he not just another Russia oligarch, tycoon thug? I have my personal understandings but it is not safe or wise to share them publicly. I do believe he represents the force that will lead to conflict.

 

Because the evidence suggests otherwise. The media, strangely, does seem to be able to 'latch on' to significant personalities. Pope Francis and Mother Teresa for example, despite the fact that both disagree(d) with much of what the media pushes out. I think the explanation is that the media does reflect, to a degree, the general views of the people. Khodorkovsky has impressed many in Russia and around the world. If you are into conspiracy theories, then it is difficult to take people at face value as everyone then becomes someone pretending to be what they are not. The Voltaire Network (see the report above) is a fundamentally secular organisation with its own beliefs and standards. The use of Voltaire in its name is no accident as the anti Catholic enlightenment writer presumably serves as an inspiration to the owners of the Network. As such, I would not expect them to understand someone like Khodorkovsky (or Solzhenitsyn for that matter) as the Network founders are fundamentally intellectuals.