Medjugorje - "The Great Prophecy" Is Unfolding

Since, consernedforusa is confused about the Beast, the one true Church and the Antichrist, I thought it would help him t see what God has revealed in this regard to Verne.

THE MARK OF THE BEAST is the last message of Verne's in the book www.godspeakswillyoulisten.org [scroll down on the page till you find the pdf. Verne's messages start on page 12].

11/06/07 The Mark of the Beast
My son, I want to further explain to you what the mark of the beast truly means. Apocalypse 13:16-17 states: And he shall make all, both the little and great, rich and poor, freemen and bondmen, to have a character in their right hand or on their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, but he that hath the character, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Now read Apocalypse 14:9-11: And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice: If any man shall adore the beast and his image and receive his character in his forehead or in his hand, He also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mingled with pure wine in the cup of his wrath: and shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torments shall ascend up forever and ever: neither have
they rest day nor night, who have adored the beast and his image and whoever receiveth the character of his name.

My son, who are the souls who will take this mark? They are lukewarm Catholics, apostate Protestants, and the followers of the antichrist. I will now explain this further for you. My words clearly states those who take the mark of the beast will be tormented forever with fire and brimstone. This means it is a final act of rebellion against my mercy. What would cause a person to rebel against my mercy with the knowledge of eternal damnation upon receiving the mark? It will be a rejection of my mercy through my warning. The warning shall take place before the mark of the beast is forced on mankind. Otherwise many innocent souls would take this mark not understanding what it truly means. The mark of the beast is more than a computer chip. It is the turning completely of your will to Satan and your sinful desires. A physical mark is an outward manifestation of an inward rebellion against God. Just as baptism, is an outward sign of an inward cleansing of original sin from a soul.

During the warning, every soul will know that I exist and that I am the Son of God who is the only way to the Father. My son, souls will experience a miniature judgment and be given a chance to repent and change their wicked ways. This type of knowledge of soul has never occurred on a worldwide scale before in history. Most souls only receive this knowledge after death and are not given a second chance. This is what makes rejection of the warning such a final condemnation. You will see the truth Jesus Christ and then you will reject the truth. You truly will have no excuses. You will be committing the sin of Lucifer and his angels, “ I will not serve.” You will have experienced the truth. No doubts will henceforth remain in the minds of any of my people. Rejection of the warning will leave you with a total rejection of my mercy. This rejection will cause many to totally give their will to Satan and their evil desires. These souls will have taken the mark of the beast on their souls. Just as my faithful, receive the mark of the cross at baptism and confirmation. To repeat, the spiritual mark will be manifested by a physical sign. This physical sign on your being will be required for survival in this world. Those who reject the spiritual mark will reject the physical mark and will be persecuted by the following groups. Lukewarm Catholics will reject my divine life received at baptism and commit the sin of blaspheming my body, blood, soul, and divinity. Hence lukewarm Catholics will persecute my faithful Catholics. After the warning, there will only be one church. All Protestant denominations will have no reason to exist. For all Protestants will see the truth in my Catholic Church. Those Protestants who in their pride reject my truth, will become apostate and persecute my true Catholics. Many Protestants will enter my church because of the warning. The ungodly will persecute my faithful remnant because the ungodly rejected my mercy. A fierce persecution will rage like a fire in certain parts of your world. Europe, North America, and Latin America will persecute my faithful severely.

My son, the largest number of converts will come from the pagan religions. Many Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and tribal peoples will accept my mercy and truth because of the warning. My church will experience a large amount of growth in those areas. I will need my faithful to teach these converts. Many miracles will take place at this time. Bilocation and other miracles assisted by my angels will occur. My faithful may be teaching in different areas of the world. After the warning, there will only be a short time given to mankind to repent. If no repentance is done, I will allow Satan and the antichrist to chastise a sinful generation. At this time, many faithful will be: called home, persecuted, martyred, and taken to my refuges. Only those who are not spiritual babies with my divine life residing in their souls will endure those days and enter my era of peace. My son, at baptism all my children receive sanctifying grace, but many do not progress beyond spiritual infancy. I will not lose any the Father has given to me. My spiritual babies will come home to be with me to prevent the loss of their souls. A soul who does not partake of my Eucharist remains a spiritual baby. Just as a human baby must eat solid food to grow to adulthood, so spiritually you must receive my graces through the sacraments to mature to spiritual adulthood. The body must be fed to grow. Likewise, the soul must be fed to grow and mature. Satan knows this truth. This is why he has deceived many of my people with false interpretations of my scriptures. Many teach the physical nation of Israel is the fulfillment of my scripture. Many teach the antichrist will resume the Jewish sacrifice in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem to constitute the abomination of desolation. This is a false teaching, not from God, but from human understanding. My son, in the book of Daniel, the persecution by the Jews under Antiochus can be considered a partial fulfillment of the abomination of desolation. But the complete fulfillment has not yet taken place. At my death, the veil in the temple was rent in two and the old sacrificial covenant was replaced by my new covenant. My sacrifice on the cross was the final sacrifice for my peoples’ sin. I am the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. I am the seed of Abraham, the son of David, in whom all the nations of the earth are blessed. My nation of Israel is my church, not the modern nation of Israel. My people are now all those who become part of my church through sanctifying grace. The complete fulfillment of the prophecy from Daniel of the abomination of desolation will occur: when the continual sacrifice of the mass is abolished by the false prophet and the anitchrist. Acceptance of the protestant doctrine of the mass by an antipope will be the fulfillment of the prophecy. The temple of God is my Holy Roman Catholic Church. My faithful remnant will be persecuted worldwide with the mass taking
place underground. These conditions will be similar to the early persecutions by the Romans. The Roman persecutions were a foreshadowing of the persecution and time of the antichrist. Remember all this will be allowed and take place according to the will of my Father in heaven. Scripture must and will be fulfilled.

I am warning you again my son and any who will take heed to my warnings. He who has ears to hear let him hear. A final warning to those who read these words. Do not wait until the warning to prepare your soul. Prepare your soul now. You may meet your maker today. I do not promise you tomorrow. Receive my graces today through the sacraments instituted by myself and given to my church. You will need my divine life in your soul prior to the warning, to be my witness to the world. After the warning, many souls will need instruction. Many of these souls will be spiritual babies and will be taken home, after the warning. If you desire to enter my era of peace, you must be progressing through my merits and graces to spiritual adulthood, when the warning takes place. This is my final message from this messenger for my people. For I am the same yesterday, today, and forever. The time is short. Jesus Christ has spoken to you today. Take heed to my words. Amen.

 

concernedfortheusa, I found these facts interesting as well. Curious if you knew this??

Russia has used the trick of granting Russian nationality to people in neighboring countries as a pretext for invasion since the 18th century. In 1829, Russia used the excuse of freeing Georgian women, supposedly granted Russian citizenship, from the harem of the Qajar Shah of Persia as a pretext for an invasion of Iran. A Tehran mob retaliated by murdering the Russian chargé d’affaires, Alexander Griboyedov.

In 1911, a number of Qajar princes led by Shu’a Al-Saltaneh (The Light Beam of Monarchy) and opposed to Iran’s Constitutional Revolution declared themselves subjects of the Tsar and raised Russian flags on top of their palaces. The Tsar used the pretext of “protecting” his subjects for invading Iran, occupying five Iranian provinces and sending an army to destroy the newly created Iranian parliament.

In 1912, Russia used the excuse of protecting its citizens for invading parts of China and annexing large chunks of land, especially in what is now Mongolia. After the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, the empire, re-named the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, replaced Christianity with Communism as its ideological matrix. It was in the name of defending “Socialism” that, in the 1950s and 1960s, the Soviet Union sent is tanks to Hungary, Poland and Czechoslovakia. The invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, too, was sold as a bid to “defend Socialism.”

After the disintegration of the Soviet Empire in 1991, Russia revived the old excuse of protecting its “kith and kin” in neighboring countries. In some instances, those minorities are genuine communities shaped over a century or so. In others, however, “kith-and-kin” communities are artificial creations to be used as a means of pressure on weaker neighbors.

Under Putin, Moscow has been distributing large numbers of Russian passports, some suggest millions, in neighboring countries, notably Azerbaijan, Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Kazakhstan. There are also significant numbers of Russian passport-holders in Transnistria, part of Moldova, which does not have a border with Russia.
The first test of the “kith-and-kin” excuse came in 2000 when, as prime minister, Putin forced Tajikistan to host 15,000 Russian troops stationed at six bases. The next time “kith-and-kin” was cited was in August 2008, coinciding with the Beijing Olympics, when Putin, this time as president, ordered an invasion of Georgia and annexed the autonomous republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Today, Russia has some 40,000 troops stationed in the two enclaves.

Ukraine is the third nation to experience Putin’s “kith-and-kin” game, and if Putin manages to pull this one off, it will not be the last. Putin’s shenanigans in Crimea are symptoms of a deeper malaise caused by Russia’s inability to gauge its place in the post-Cold War international order and the inability of European powers and the United States to accommodate Russia in a way commensurate with its weight, if not its ambitions.

 

Walid Shoebat is most definitely a Protestant. I was in email correspondence with him for a while a couple of years ago. He believes that Islam is the greatest curse and danger in the world and that Islam will throw up the anti-Christ and has a theory (one among many) about the mark of the beast being a Quranic text.

I pointed out to him that Protestants have never fought Islam but that Catholic forces had stopped two invasions of Europe at Lepanto and at Vienna while the Protestants of northern Europe sat back either indifferent to invasion or even hoping for an Islamic victory! He told me that he had never heard of the Battles of Lepanto or Vienna and had no knowledge of the attempted invasions or the Catholic role in opposing Isalm. When he had confirmed what I told him, he started to include admiring references on his website and in some of his lectures to the role of Catholicism in combatting Islam to his mainly Protestant audiences who often considered the Papacy to be the anti-Christ.

(Concerned - I know that you feel that you are providing 'facts' to the uninformed but these 'facts' are in the main a partial Orthodox historical view of which, anyway, I am sure many of us are already aware. You are not providing the surprises that you seem to believe that you are condescending to give us. Grant us some credit for a knowledge of European and ecclesiastical history and an opposing Catholic interpretation of them which is just as valid as yours - to say the least. As to Obama being the anti-Christ, there are Christians on Youtube who can 'prove' from Scripture that Tony Blair - among others - fits the bill so who is right?)

 

When the good go bad they really go bad big time . Someone who was intended to be a saint through God's grace and goes bad becomes in turn a kind of Satanic saint of great wickedness.

One of the marks of such folks is a great inner strength , good or bad.

In my opinion President Obama does not possess such strength, certainly not enough to be the Anti Christ.

Putin on the other hand....

But, no, I don't think Putin is the one either.

 

I always had the impression with Obama that he selected for office precisely because he would make such a great puppet.

 

NARCISSISTIC IS THE TERM THAT BEST FITS BARRY OBAMA

 

Just tell narcisstic people how wonderful they are and they become putty in your hands. Like my dog with sausages, they can't get enough of it.

 

Russia is already truly devoted to Mary. Our devotion to Mary is not less than your devotion to Mary. You are just assuming that your way of expressing your devotion to Holy Mary is the only true way. We regularly attend Liturgy and receive Eucharist (not just the body of Christ, but also His blood). Every Liturgy includes expressed veneration of the Blessed Virgin and devotion to her.

Thank you concernedforusa so very much for your efforts to explain Orthodoxy on this forum!!! I know it may be hard - and already is. But don't give up, it is all so interesting - about Fatima secrets and so on. Absolutely new ideas to me. I'm a Finnish Orthodox....and read a lot of prophecy of different denominations. Perhaps some day we have a forum where like-minded (open minded) people from different sides of Christianity can share their thoughts!

P.S. West is so good when defending Ukraine... But what about laws pro homosexuality and same-sex marriages in U.S. and EU? Nobody seems to remember that those are the values which are now served to the people of Ukraine. Is it liberation or what....

 

Lets clear up a very bad misconception. No one is doubting for a minute that some Russians or Orthodox Christians do not have deep devotion to Mary the Mother of God. No one on this site has ever challenged this truth. Our Lady of Fatima's peace request that must be fulfilled (the papal consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart) has nothing to do with the people there not having devotion to Mary, it has to do with its atheistic/communistic government. Once this consecration is correctly done our Blessed Mother promises conversion of the Russia government and ultimate peace throughout the world.

The miracle of October 13,1917 was the greatest miracle since the resurrection of Jesus. It is the only public miracle in history to be announced 3 months in advance to happen on a particular day, time and place. 70,000 eye witnesses whom were present there to mock the 3 children. All present were converted immediately because of the Miracle of the Sun. I say this, because it lends complete credibility to Mary's conversion of Russia forthcoming and peace throughout the world.

 

So, Concerned has explained that the Orthodox Church is,actually, the Catholic Church because it has the word 'catholic' in its title and that Putin is a 'committed Orthodox Christian' because he has recruited the ROC to his cause. Sensible Catholics don't believe either of these statements. We are Catholics and can see Putin for what he is. He presides over a nation that has the lowest birth rate in Europe and so naturally proscribes abortion and homosexuality and has found an ally in the ROC. He wants Russia to rule the world and need as many Russians as he can get in order to do so. The ROC was the 'handmaid of the KGB' in USSR days and its leadership still continues from those days.

If we want to know the Orthodox view of the schism and history, there are hundreds of websites that we can view. Why come here and tell us that Orthodoxy is true? If so, why didn't Our Lady choose some Russian children instead of those at Fatima or those at Banneux or the one at Lourdes or those at Pontmain or those at La Salette etc. etc. etc. Why has |Orthodoxy no Euchatistic miracles to prove its case as those that have occurred so often in Catholic Churches? Perhaps it is because the Catholic Church IS the Church founded by Jesus. Why not just accept these facts and and help Our Lady, instead of hindering Her by clinging to the schismatic viewpoint that has been handed down to you and that you seem so keen to pass on to us?

 

Steve,

I have to say this, isn't abortion legal in Portugal? Homosexuality legal and accepted and promoted? Isn't the birth rate in Portugal below that of Russia? Did not Our Lady of Fatima say "the faith will be preserved in Portugal." Just saying. What do any of these locutions/messages mean? I am not sure anymore. I have heard the word "soon" so many times, what does it mean? What did Fr. Gobbi mean when he said "by the great jubilee of the year 2000..............."? Are not the sacraments of the ROC accepted by our chuch as valid? Now I see various prelates say to accept homosexuality as diversity, huh? And the pope is silent when the media "misinterprets" his words, ie. do not judge? Why is he keeping "the bushel basket over the lamp?" Just asking. Hasn't our faith changed since V2? If lex orandi lex credendi is true it sure has.

 

"In Portugal the faith will remain". I do not think this means that the government will make all morals laws in accordance to the will of God. It is up for debate, but I would contend that the Catholic Church, when all other countries loose the faith, it will be preserved in Portugal. The doctrines of the faith (not Church disciplines) can never change, so to answer your question, no the faith has not changed. Priest, Bishops and Cardinals personal views on morality or Church teachings do not define the faith, unless they are in full communion with the Roman Pontiff (VatII statement).

 

The ROC sacraments ARE accepted by us Catholics. They can receive ours, they refuse us theirs. Who is right on that score?
I am as concerned about the Pope's approach as you, but do not look to the ROC for light, they are still contaminated by heavy and continuing links with the KGB which still continues under the former KGB agent who leads the ROC and the former KGB agent who leads Russia. The ROC does not even pretend that it does not regard itself as the leadership of the Orthodox Churches and claims it merely on the basis of numbers (just as in Eastern Ukraine). Putin is evil and so the ROC are the friends of evil.

 

Troops Seize Gas Plant Beyond Crimean Border

www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/world/europe/russian-troops-seize-gas-plant-beyond-crimean-border-ukraine-says.html?hp&_r=1ssian

My question still stands to concernedforusa. When will the Russian supporters change their minds on Putin's objective? Always comes back to the oil/gas preserves. He is not the least bit concerned about Russian citizens in the Crimea. He wants to re-establish the old Soviet Union and from there march on to global dominance as prophecy states.

 

Concernedforusa said:

THIS is very interesting to me! The conspiracy of Cardinal Bertone' and all his fingers in the pot regarding FATIMA and his position of 'Ambassador to Russia' created a HUGE roadblock to the consecration being done. In Fr. Amorth's youtube video he adamantly states that he was a few feet away from Pope John Paul II when the Pope turned to his 'advisers (Bertone' being one of them) and asked several times--- "Are you SURE I cannot name Russia?" They said, "NO,NO,NO!" SOMETHING else was the reason why ----BUT I do think this 'union of the apostolic churches' and the Bishop's unity is VERY important and not enough focus is given to it. "It will come late...unfortunately..." Pius XII's 1952 consecration was evidently deficient: it was merely written in letter form, it lacked the unity of the bishops, it failed to promise to promote the reparatory devotion of the First Five Saturdays.

 

LOCUTIONS.ORG

1. Allowing Russia Back on to the Stage


Oct 5th, 2012
I speak so clearly because the time is short and the dangers are great. Mankind cannot grasp the importance of these days and months. So, I reveal these truths and show everything that will happen in as concise a manner as possible.

When destruction breaks out, man will begin to unleash the terrible weapons that he has stored up, but has never dared to reach for. Moderation will be pushed aside. Whatever can be unleashed will be unleashed. The Great Powers will stay on the sidelines, feeling that those involved in these conflicts will soon spend themselves and these fires will go out. All of this is a mistake. Steps should have been taken earlier to prevent these smaller nations from gaining these weapons. Instead, the growth of armaments was overlooked and pushed aside. Decisions were not made.

All of this happens because the relationship between America and Russia is still one of rivalry and not friendship. This so-called friendship is a lie that has prevented steps from being taken that would have insured world peace. Russia has been allowed back onto the world stage.

The Narrow Road of Light oct 5th, 2012
In moments of disappointment, do not turn back or look in another direction. It is too late to look for other paths to safety. There is only one path – the one that I will show you. Your heart must be steadfast. Do not fear and, especially, do not look for other options. Other roads will seem easier to walk but they will not lead to salvation.

What road am I talking about? It is the road of light as contrasted with the road of darkness. The light is within you. I have placed it in your heart. Unfortunately, this light is mixed with many elements of darkness (those desires that pull you). Resist these. Follow only your desires for light. This is the narrow road but soon you will gain an ease and the darkness will be left behind.

 

3. Not a Child’s Game


Oct 6th, 2012
Why do I ask people to set aside their desires even some that are legitimate? I do this because the reward is so great and the dangers are so numerous. When the goal is eternal life and when the enemy is the Evil One, then the demands must be great. Otherwise, seeking the kingdom would be like a child’s game. If the child loses, the game can be played again. Eternal life is quite different. A person lives but once. He chooses but once. His decisions are recorded forever. This is not a child’s game nor is it the work of a few days. The demands are heavy and the time for faithfulness spreads out over many years, until the hour of death. This is the narrow road of light that few walk. I call you to this road and promise that I will help you.


3. Reaping the Evil Harvest

Oct 7th, 2012
Now, it is late. Russia has been allowed to form alliances. Her new friends have been allowed to gain strength. Soon they will all oppose you. Are you surprised? Does this cause you wonder? Anyone with a keen eye could easily see. You have been deceived by the Evil One, failing to judge truthfully when all the signs were clear. Now, you can only reap the harvest of your blindness and deceit. The fruits will not be slow in coming.

Why do I speak when your decisions have already been made? I want to rip away the mask that Russia has placed over your eyes. There is no need to continue to walk this dark road which will lead only to the destruction of your sons, your daughters, and your friends.

America, take up again your former position. Russia is your sworn enemy, and you foolishly sign treaties with her. I weep over you, foolish America.

 

' Follow only your desires for light'

THIS IS JUST AWFUL.Nothing Catholic here.

Look at the whole paragraph...What road am I talking about? It is the road of light as contrasted with the road of darkness. The light is within you. I have placed it in your heart. Unfortunately, this light is mixed with many elements of darkness (those desires that pull you). Resist these. Follow only your desires for light. This is the narrow road but soon you will gain an ease and the darkness will be left behind.

Luther followed his own light, so does Tony Palmer. Church teaching is our light.

 

MAC--Quit reading negative into everything. Our Lord is THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD.

 

Yes he is , through the teaching of His Church. Not through our desires.