Marx, Lenin and Satan.

Discussion in 'Positive Critique' started by padraig, Jun 13, 2024.

  1. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    He was on my mind at Mass this evening as the Gospel was read out, especially this part:

    “You have heard that it was said to those of ancient times, ‘You shall not murder’; and ‘whoever murders shall be liable to judgment.’ But I say to you that if you are angry with a brother or sister, you will be liable to judgment; and if you insult a brother or sister, you will be liable to the council; and if you say, ‘You fool,’ you will be liable to the hell of fire."

    That little book of insults is still out there somewhere.....
     
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  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    If I ever found that people like The New York Times and the Legacy Media agreed with me and thought I was some kind of hero, you'd better believe I'd know I had something to worry about.

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  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Elizabeth Yore is a hoot; so funny.

     
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  4. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    The Divine Council is something rarely spoken about. Seems to come up a lot in NDEs.
     
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  5. InVeritatem

    InVeritatem Archangels

    To add to the list, when King Henry VIII was on his deathbed he cried out, "all is lost!".

    But I do wonder if such as this may not be a sign of repentance, and that the merciful Jesus might not save such souls. The problem of course is that they might be in the deepest purgatory for what seems like an eternity. And there is another problem too: free will. Souls such as these may chose Hell rather than be least of all in the Kingdom of Heaven. The soul may not be able to stand being the least in Heaven when they could be high up in the kindom of darkness. Or out of free will a soul may be aware of the choice presented to them and bite off their nose despite their face - so to speak. It causes me to break out in a sweat even considering these scenarios. May the Immaculate Heart of Mary be our refuge and the way that will lead us to God.

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  6. InVeritatem

    InVeritatem Archangels



    In his book, Make yourself an Ark! (1995), Fr. Andrew O'Brien tells us that both Bolshevism and Nazism arise from the thought of Friedrich Engels who published in 1849 an article in that journal associated with Karl Marx - Neue Rheinisch Zeitung "calling for extermination of whole races in Europe. Its authenticity is not questioned, as Stalin alluded to it approvingly in his The Foundations of Leninism (1924), which was extensively read in the Soviet Union. Stalin argued that the Soviet State will have to destroy whole peoples who stand in the path of the revolution. Engels' socialist program of nation killing of 1849 decreed that counter-revolutionary nations, mostly Slavs, must perish in the revolutionary holocaust. The Marx-Lenin hit-list for extermination included Basques and Bretons (who had supported royalism in the face of the French Revolution), and Yugoslavs who were accused of helping to bring reactionary Czarism deeper into Europe."
     
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  7. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    So, really, it boils down to the fact the we just don't know. I believe there is hope for anyone who sincerely believed at some point in their life.... they may find the courage to trust in the Divine Mercy and truly repent.....when the time comes.......Prayers for the dying, especially in the post-covid days ~ who knows who those prayers may help?
     
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  8. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I was reading a Wikipedia article in Portuguese about Nazi mysticism in Germany in the 1930s, and I found it interesting to discover that its adherents wanted to replace the biblical God with the gods of Nordic culture in German cultural identity, which seems to indicate that Hitler, as a precursor of the Antichrist, wanted to impose the abomination of desolation on a national scale on the poor German nation.
     
  9. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    "Some authors have written about the strong influences of pagan beliefs on Nazism. Among these pagan beliefs, Nazi faith preached that they were the Aryan race descended from the people of Atlantis, mentioned by the Greek philosopher Plato, and, in the Nazi understanding, the Jewish people were the cause of its destruction. There was also a mixture of elements from the Germanic mythology pantheon, propagated by Nazi leaders and propagandists through official information channels. Ultimately, to definitively oppose Catholics and Protestants, the monotheistic God was replaced by Viking gods.

    In 1934, the book "Nazism: An Assault on Civilization" stated that on July 30, 1933, more than a hundred thousand Nazis gathered in Eisenach to declare their desire to make "Germanic origins a divine reality," restoring Odin, Baldur, Freia, and other Teutonic gods on Germany's altars—Wotan should replace God, Siegfried should replace Christ. In these rituals, the Father God and his Christ were substituted with this pagan pantheon.

    In 1936, Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda minister, presented Nazism as a religion to be respected, advocating for a new German faith. Joseph Goebbels had been the editor of Der Angriff (The Attack), a Nazi propaganda newspaper. Before committing suicide, in his “letter,” Hitler appointed him Chancellor of Germany, which shows the degree of trust Hitler had in this Minister, responsible for official propaganda and the first to use the expression Heil Hitler.

    The German Faith Movement (Deutsche Glaubensbewegung, DGB) had Jakob Wilhelm Hauer (1881-1962), a professor of Theology in Tübingen, as its prophet. In the book Deutsche Gottschau, Hauer argued that German history was more than a mere sequence of events, with a Divinity at its core that embodied the spirit of the Aryan race.

    Easter 1936 was prepared in Germany as if it were a grand pagan festival. Bookstores were filled with pagan literature, and the blue flag with the golden sun disk of the “German Faith Movement” (DGB) reached the most remote rural areas. A large rally was organized in Burg Hunxe, in the Rhineland.

    In 1937, Pope Pius XI published an encyclical condemning Nazism, where he stated:

    "We give thanks, venerable brothers, to you, your priests, and all the faithful who, defending the rights of the Divine Majesty against provocative neopaganism, unfortunately often supported by influential personalities, have fulfilled and continue to fulfill your duty as Christians."

    At the Nuremberg Congress in 1937, the ancestral paganism of the Aryan people was revived among the Nazis, emerging as a central topic of discussion: for Germany to return to its ancient faith, it was not enough to separate Church and State; the Christian Churches would have to be destroyed, and the State transformed into a new Church; a new National Religion was imposed.

    Micklem, in writing “National Socialism and Christianity,” presents rituals of Nordic mythology, a typically pagan belief, where, during this ritual in 1938, the prominent Nazi official Julius Streicher, at the Nordic Solstice Festival, before a huge crowd of Germans gathered in Hesselberg—a mountain the Führer declared sacred—next to a large symbolic bonfire, said:

    "If we look into the flames of this sacred fire and cast our sins into them, we can descend from this mountain with our souls cleansed. We need neither priests nor pastors."
     
  10. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Julius Streicher, the author of this statement, was a personal friend of Hitler responsible for Nazi marketing through the newspaper Der Stürmer, of which he was the director. He was one of those who presented to the public what Nazism represented. As one of the spokesmen for the Nazi image, he was one of the main individuals responsible for the racist, xenophobic, and anti-Semitic atmosphere in Germany, which would eventually culminate in the Holocaust in 1938. His statements in this ritual broke with Christian, Protestant, and Catholic churches.

    In this year of 1938, after the persecutions of Jews that had been occurring since Hitler's rise to power in 1933, the persecution of Christians also began to become systematic. Driven by the actions of Nazi authorities, notably Goebbels, Heinrich Himmler, and Reinhard Heydrich, Nazism entered into a clear rupture with Christian, Protestant, and Catholic churches.

    Later, while studying the totalitarian phenomenon, the philosopher Herbert Marcuse identified several overlapping layers in Nazi ideology, considering paganism, along with mysticism, racism, and biologism, as one of the essential components of its "mythological layer." Marcuse's perspective was shared by the "Frankfurt School," especially Max Horkheimer and Erich Fromm.

    According to Protestant theologian Paul Tillich, the paganism of Nazism was the essential element that explained its anti-Semitism, with a focus on the "Aryan blood ties." This view of Tillich can be explained by the distorted Nazi propaganda that added to the Greek belief in Atlantis the idea that the Jewish people were responsible for the destruction of this mythical city.

    For Emmanuel Levinas, Nazism presented a form of pagan religiosity that opposed an entire monotheistic civilization.

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  11. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    Filing under "Stuff they don't teach in history class..." :eek:
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The Nazis were up to all kinds of weird occult stuff, constantly. They were not atheists like the Communists but dumped their Christian German Heritage because it had Jewish roots and the Nazis of course hated Jews and all things Jewish with considerable passion. Christianity was then seen as a subservient , slave like religion not worthy of the proud German Aryan Master Race.

    The Swastika itself fro instance is an occult symbol, very ancient going right back to ancient India and origins of the Aryan people. Interestingly the Nazis reversed the ancient symbol and put it back to front.

    Hitler it is said was possessed by a demon called, 'Strongman ', when he visited a Museum in Vienna and viewed the spear of Longinus, the spear that pierced the side of Jesus and he talks about this incident in his autobiography, 'Main Kampf' (my life).

    The SS in particular were up to their wicked necks in all kinds of black occult activity. At the SS Castle of Wewelsburg for instance the senior officers gathered round a table to commune together with Pagan spirits on regular basis.

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  13. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. Sanitized news even back then.
     
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  14. AED

    AED Powers

    None of this surprises me. What runs through the whole Aryan myth that fueled their madness is overweaning pride. I hear a huge shrieking shout of Non Serviam.
     
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  15. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    This seems like a satanic mockery of the Eucharist and the Communion of Saints.
     
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  16. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Now combine this with the fact that many Nazis fled to the US with no problems, and look at the US today.
    https://youtube.com/shorts/gfumI5OU3Ek?si=4bT0qwUV-dJv9And
     
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  17. AED

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  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Sad to say many of the top Nazis were Catholics. Heinrich Himmler the founder and leader of the SS had been a chicken farmer and the father of a large family was Catholic as of course was Adolph Hitler himself..

    The Nazis themselves had their first home in Munich in Catholic Bavaria.

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  19. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    The roman salute seems like the gesture of a blessing. If I am correct, one places their hand over their heart then moves it into the air. I know it existed in Roman times, but assume it is older. Because there is something called the "olympic salute" which is identical to the Roman salute. Given that the olympics have their origins in paganism, we can see a certain kind of pattern with this arm gesture.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_symbols#Olympic_salute
     
  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Some Catholic clergy went along with it, some did not..

    In the film, 'The Sound of Music' it shows the true story of the Von Trappe family escaping Catholic Austria when the Germans assimilated it. It shows a scene were patriotic Austrians sing their National Anthem ,'Eidelweiss'. In point of fact 99% of Catholic Austria voted for union (Anchluss) with Nazis Germany. When the German Army entered Church bells throughout Austria rang out to welcome them. At that time Austria was over 90% Catholic.

    Germany did not invade Catholic Austria, the Catholic Austrians welcomed them, very enthusiastically, Hitler himself of course being an Austrian Catholic. In some cases the Swastika was flown on Church buildings:



     
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