Luz de Maria Message

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by Fatima, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    MESSAGE FROM ST MICHAEL ARCHANGEL
    TO LUZ DE MARIA
    SEPTEMBER 5, 2020




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    Beloved People of God:



    LET GOD’S FAITHFUL REJOICE!

    LET THOSE WHO REPENT OF THEIR WRONGFUL ACTS REJOICE! LET THOSE WHO REFUSE TO ENTER THE WEB OF EVIL REJOICE!




    Religious people are being trapped by evil which is besmirching them with the mud that stains the soul: this is because they are not spiritual.



    What is forbidden is taking hold of man, walking complacently through evil’s dense and sickening darkness, becoming lost in the various sacrileges with which humanity at this moment is rejecting what is Divine.



    CREATION IS GOD’S WORK, NOT MAN’S, THEREFORE CREATION ITSELF IS DEPLOYING ITS MOST FEARSOME FORCE AGAINST MAN, SO THAT MAN WOULD RETURN TO GOD AND ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AS THE MASTER AND SOVEREIGN OF ALL CREATION.




    The People of God are lost and confused (1), contaminated by the filth of evil as a result of flirting with evil and allowing it to replace the Divine, thereby refusing to be true Christians, zealous defenders of true doctrine.



    DO NOT ACCEPT INNOVATIONS!




    You are living in the midst of all kinds of great events; rebellions are increasing as man protests against captivity. Media of mass communication are controlled by the great global elites steeped in the supremacy of the powerful over the weak.



    WHAT PAIN IS APPROACHING FOR HUMANITY!
    SOME WILL SUFFER FIRST AND OTHERS LATER.
    NO LAND WILL BE FREE FROM MOURNING.




    Hunger has come on its horse to touch the Earth ...
    Ferocious pests are devouring areas of crops...
    To man’s surprise, water is flooding crops in some places, while in other places the scorching sun will not allow crops to grow...



    O, SUFFERING HUMANITY!
    TURN BACK TO OUR KING AND LORD JESUS CHRIST, ADORE THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF OUR KING.




    You, creatures of Faith, should live each moment as if it were your last.



    THE TREASURE OF CHRISTIANITY IS BEING WITHHELD AND DENIED TO THE PEOPLE OF GOD.




    In the midst of human chaos due to the fall of the global economy, the dragon with its heads will impose itself (cf. Rev 12:3; 13:1), depriving Christianity of what cannot be eroded.



    The elite promoting global order (2) are negotiating with small countries in order to mark their passage towards a single government before the economy falls, holding their debtors in their clutches.



    People of God:



    How is it that you have so little Faith in DIVINE POWER? YOU FEAR DYING OF HUNGER, BUT YOU HAVE NO FEAR OF LOSING ETERNAL SALVATION.



    People of God:



    The earth will shake fiercely and the sea will flood the land (3); remain attentive to devastating earthquakes; wake up, do not carry on sleeping.



    Pray, People of God, America is repeatedly in the news.



    Pray, People of God, Spain will be in the news. When Faith falls, communism will arise. (4)



    Pray, People of God, England will suffer



    Pray, People of God, a celestial body will take the Earth by surprise.



    What is happening is necessary; man must bend his knees and thus understand that he needs to be spiritual in order to taste what is Divine. Do not feel that you are the masters of the Most Holy Trinity - aspire to be spiritual, fight against the misused human ego and be humble creatures of God possessing great love and holiness.



    Two forces are fighting over souls: good against evil. Who has goodness and who has evil?... this is to be judged by what you have in your conscience.



    Pray, repair wrongs committed, love your neighbor as yourself, respect the Divine Law, be true and do not depart from Our Queen and Mother of Heaven and Earth.




    The wise person gives drink to the thirsty without judging whether they are worthy or not. Do good as Christ has reserved good for you!



    THE ANGEL OF PEACE WILL COME JUST AS UNFORESEEN EVENTS COME TO EARTH - WITHOUT BEING EXPECTED. WITH PEACE ON HIS LIPS HE WILL UNITE HEARTS. (5)




    With greater strength, humanity will regain the spirituality it has lost and will be renewed. Therefore, do not fear purification: pray and keep the Faith, so that as the Faithful Remnant you might be freed by DIVINE LOVE AND THE TRIUMPH OF THE IMMACULATE HEART OF OUR QUEEN AND MOTHER.



    Pray, desire the good of your brothers and sisters; be love and send that love to your fellow men, desire the good.




    Adulterous humanity is mocking the DIVINE by bringing what is profane into God’s House; this sin is very serious in God’s Eyes.



    Fear losing Eternal Life.

    By Divine Decree, you are protected by the Celestial Legions.

    Do not fear, do not fear, do not forget to do good; be love, do not allow impatience to lead you into pride.



    DO NOT FEAR, CHILDREN OF GOD!
    DO NOT FEAR!




    Continue in Faith, nourish your Faith, fulfill the Divine Law. (cf. Mt 12:37-39)



    Worship God in spirit and truth.



    WHO IS LIKE GOD?
    THERE IS NONE LIKE GOD!




    St Michael the Archangel



    HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN
    HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN
    HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN




    (1) Humanity’s great confusion…
    (2) The New World Order…
    (3) The groaning of the earth…
    (4) Communism in the end times…

    (5) Revelations concerning the Angel of Peace…
     
  2. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Archangels

    Interesting question raised about the imprimatur given to Luz de Maria messages in this article,

    Beware of So-Called ‘Church Approved’ Coronavirus Prevention
    Claims of apparition endorsement aside, such oils have been used for centuries in witchcraft for “protection.”

    Susan Brinkmann Blogs May 20, 2020

    Alleged revelations from Our Lady to a Costa Rican woman that call for the use of essential oils to prevent infection by the coronavirus have gone viral on the internet. What should Catholics make of revelations such as these?

    The “seer,” named Luz de Maria de Bonilla, allegedly received a message from Our Lady on June 3, 2016, which gave instructions about the use of an essential oil blend which she called the Oil of the Good Samaritan, to be used as a preventive measure against infectious outbreaks. She said the vision also recommended that people ingest a raw clove of garlic every morning or to use oil of oregano because “these two are excellent antibiotics.”

    On Jan. 28, 2020, once again Our Lady is alleged to have told the seer: “Great pestilences, plagues generated by unknown viruses are advancing upon humanity. Use the oil of the Good Samaritan as protection, faced with a case of a highly contagious disease where you live — the quantity of the head of a pin on the earlobes will suffice. If the number of those infected increases, you should put it on both sides of your neck and on the wrists of both hands...”

    The oils contained in the Good Samaritan oil are cinnamon, cloves, rosemary, lemon and eucalyptus. This is the same recipe as a popular essential oil blend known as “Thieves Oil” which is associated with the legend of four thieves who robbed the bodies of victims of the Bubonic plague but managed to escape infection while using these ingredients. Such oils have been used for centuries in witchcraft for “protection” and are touted by essential oil distributors who claim they improves the immune system and protect people from infections such as the flu and viruses.

    Adding credence to the alleged messages is an imprimatur given by a bishop named Msgr. Juan Abelardo Mata Guavara, bishop of Esteli, Nicaragua, who approved the messages received by this seer which occurred from 2009-2017. There is no indication that Msgr. Mata — or any other Church authority — approved the 2020 message recommending these alternatives for use against COVID-19...

    Even though the Church has rendered no decision as to the supernatural nature of the revelations, the messages have gone viral on the internet, with many Catholics hyping the oils as being a “Church approved” method of protecting themselves against the coronavirus.

    As convincing as it all may sound, these revelations are raising eyebrows because they appear to contradict Church teaching found in the Ethical and Religious Directives for Healthcare Services. Based upon Pope John Paul II’s encyclical letter On the Value and Inviolability of Human Life (Evangelium Vitae), the Directives state: “A person has a moral obligation to use ordinary or proportionate means of preserving his or her life.” This is particularly true in the case of life-threatening or communicable diseases...

    Experts such as Michael O’Neill, author of ‘Virgin, Mother, Queen’ and creator of MiracleHunter.com, have doubts that Our Lady gave these instructions.

    “While St. Bernadette was pointed to the waters of Lourdes by Our Lady, typically Mary doesn't recommend natural remedies or flout medical advice,” O’Neill said. “This appears to be a non-standard request of Mary in an apparition and therefore casts some doubts on the validity of these apparitions.”

    As for the imprimatur, O’Neill explains that an imprimatur does not mean that a supernatural event occurred. It merely states that the messages are free of doctrinal error. Such a statement is usually given by the ordinary of a place where an alleged Marian apparition is taking place. Because the Costa Rican-born Luz de Maria currently lives in Argentina, it is unclear why an imprimatur was given by a bishop from Nicaragua. Attempts to seek clarification from Bishop Mata and Argentinian church authorities are ongoing.

    “Getting wrapped up in any unapproved apparition can cause great challenges to one's faith and it is important to remember that the centrality of our faith should be found in the words and works of Jesus Christ in the Gospels, not in alleged apparitions,” O’Neill advises. “If the faithful find that the messages help them draw closer to Christ, the messages can certainly provide a great spiritual benefit but likely not secret potions for warding off viruses...”

    Rest of the article at https://www.ncregister.com/blog/beware-of-so-called-church-approved-coronavirus-prevention
     
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  3. Katfalls

    Katfalls Archangels

     
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  4. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    Christy, you were the one in one of the Fr. Rodrigue threads who was adamant about just who could "officially" grant an Imprimatur (while you didn't provide the entire understanding of who and from where they could be given for guidance) and one of those you insisted upon as legitimate to grant an Imprimatur was the Bishop of the diocese who published the messages. And this is the case with Luz de Maria. So, which is it or do you just not personally like any ongoing Private Revelations?

    This has already been hashed out here. What is rather amusing now w/ the article you cited is the critics are themselves deciding just what the messages....esp. for these times.....need to say. Such chutzpah indeed!! So such persons are now suggesting they know how heaven thinks and that they alone can judge just what is "standard and not standard" for God's communication with a world which is itself on of "non-standard" times, compared w/ former times! IOW, they MUST satisfy the defective critic's own personal likes. I'd venture to guess that such individuals won't benefit too much from the wisdom given for the times that are upon us re: preparation and using the God given natural remedies (in fact scientifically legitimized themselves by places like Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center as aids in therapy and treatment) for the times when normal and most modern medicines won't be available. Of course people also usually fail to include the fact that never did our Lady say that any natural remedy is magic on its own....but deep Faith in the "Queen and Mother of the End Times" sent by her Son whose Name the Holy Spirit works within is necessary.

    Also, you might again reread all of the possibilities open for granting Imprimaturs for guidance of the faithful in general about a private revelation while there is no official commission of study as yet declared....and that is expected as normal while messages or predictions are still ongoing. People need guidance about anything new and the Bishops (and others permitted) are offering such "guidance" for what is not against Church teachings. So "authors" who have written on other Marian PRs happen to disagree.....should be included in opinion offerings but that's all.

    With all due respect, you still seem to be stuck on "official Church approval" which comes only after the protocols established by the Church w/ a commission created just for that purpose have been completed. That has not as yet begun with this PR....and probably won't be while the events are still ongoing. Meanwhile we have the helps of those authorized to grant Imprimaturs to guide the faithful with a reassurance that the work does not contain anything that contradicts Church teaching.

    So, since people interested can be informed of these messages it's not a great idea to try to convince them otherwise when the Church has not declared anything of such Herself.

    You might just start a thread on all of the opinions of opposition against modern day PRs that have not as yet been "officially" decided upon by the church!
     
  5. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Archangels

    Do you have a link to something showing this bishop has jurisdiction? I wonder the National Catholic Register writer could not discover this.

    Also, If knowledgeable health care professionals caution against herbal remedies to treat covid-19--or anything, for that matter--I would pay attention to them, as opposed to an unrecognized private revelation.
     
  6. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    You stated it yourself....the Bishop who publishes the messages and this Bishop did so having had the seer live for a time in his diocese, knowing her personally, as well as knowing and studying the messages in their history and meaning.

    What are the herbal remedies that your "knowledgeable health care professionals" have cautioned against? In fact such beneficial herbal remedies for the purpose of building one's immune system or respiratory system are recommended by health care professionals prior to any setting that could be one of possible contagion.....esp. when it seems that it is a virus that is more dangerous to those who have such compromised systems. They are therefore aids for prevention and strengthening of those systems that could be attacked.
     
  7. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Archangels

    Actually, I looked at Luz de Maria's official website and one other, and found nothing to suggest she's lived anywhere except Costa Rica and Argentina. It mentions the imprimatur as coming from a bishop who read her work. So, I'd have to say jurisdiction is still in doubt.
     
  8. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    He had the messages published and did so via his knowledge of the seer while she stayed in his diocese. He also gave his personal approval, as a Bishop which has ecclesiastical standing, for the devotion, the novena, the image, the invocation and the feast day. I still don't know what you mean by "jurisdiction" for any Bishop who gives an Imprimatur. You are speaking perhaps of what would be an official approval coming from the Magisterium which has not even been asked for while the events are still ongoing and wouldn't even be expected at this time. As I explained previously while no one other than those within the Bishop's territory is effected, others may use that emphasis as a huge guidance for the security of what is contained within the PR as having nothing against Church teachings. And the seer has every right to state this particular Bishop's personal approvals of the total along with his Imprimatur.

    Your official "approvals" would be appropriate for a time when there is the formal study begun. Meanwhile if you are attempting to dissuade others from reading or being informed of this amazing PR as if they are acting against what the Church provides for and permits then you are yourself outside of what the Church allows, esp. when noting any Imprimaturs offered by those with the authority to do so in order to instruct the faithful that there is nothing against Church teachings. No one is saying that there is as yet any "official" commission established w/ the study of the entire PR. At this time that would be impossible. That's been offered here rather as a kind of straw man to discredit those in support of a non-condemned PR. If you believe that those Bishops or others allowed by the Church who have offered their personal Imprimaturs for various as yet unapproved PRs are not permitted to do so or that those Imprimaturs mean nothing in the eyes of the Church or for instruction of the faithful then I would suggest you take it up with each of those individual prelates and reprimand them for doing so as something illegitimate. It would seem that that is what you are attempting to do....discredit the degree of instruction contained in such Imprimaturs.
     
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  9. Katfalls

    Katfalls Archangels

    Somehow my reply didn't come through, must be my age showing. So I will repeat. The only time combinations of essential oils would be considered "witchcraft" is if some kind of satanic chant had been placed over it. I also heard that from Women of Grace show on EWTN when discussing essential oils. They are natural products like frankincense and myrrh, both mentioned in the Gospel. So I think you are worrying needlessly. By all means use them if they help you! I like raw honey as an antibiotic . . .eycalyptus can be found in cough drops. I could go on and on , but essential oils . . .are essential.
     
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  10. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Archangels

    No, I asked a simple question, for some evidence to back up your assertions. Absent that, there's nothing more to discuss.
     
  11. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    What "assertions"? Are you saying that the Bishop did not have the messages, up to that point, published for his diocese?
     
  12. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Archangels

    Cross-posting from Countdown thread.

    No. The bishop giving an imprimatur is either

    a) the bishop of the writer's place of permanent residence (not visiting), or

    b) the place of printing.

    Luz de Maria's online biography says nothing of her living in any place outside of Costa Rica and Argentine. It would be strange, but not impossible, to publish in another country, but you offer no evidence that is the case, either. You may say so, but that is not sufficient evidence that something is true.

    So, the questions raised by the National Catholic Register remain unanswered. BTW, I dispute your inference that the reporter--a she, not he-- did so to plant a "nefarious and unverified assertion in the mind of readers."

    I am done with this exchange. Finally.
     
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  13. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    I was sticking with your own mandated "place of printing"......and the Bishop of approval of the entire PR w/his Imprimatur on the published messages has, as has been noted, had them printed in his diocese. But I never insisted that his Imprimatur was an "official" Church approval but something that gives guidance to the faithful to trust the PR as having nothing against Church teaching. This fact though could perhaps make it so.

    I don't know about any article of the "National Catholic Reporter" that you mention above. I believe I was referring to another article you cited that chose to challenge the Imprimatur on the writing of Christine Watkins. These two PRs w/ same kind of objections seem to have overlapped re: the subject of Imprimaturs.

    You had asked:


    Why did Christine Watkins go to a retired bishop who did not have authority to issue an imprimatur on her work?



    to which I had offered this from Catholic.com re: Imprimaturs in general....

    an imprimatur issued by a bishop in another part of the world would be unrelated to the apparition approval process. Such an imprimatur would mean that a bishop somewhere in the world has judged that the work does not contain anything that contradicts Church teaching.



    So, the implications for an imprimatur being given to a book of private revelations are the same as they are for any other book. It’s a judgment by an individual bishop that the work does not contradict Catholic doctrine. Nothing more.
     
  14. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Archangels

    It's National Catholic Register, not Reporter.
     
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  15. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    Thanks for correcting your comment. Makes more sense. That "Reporter" always gives off a "danger, danger" vibe!
     
  16. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    MESSAGE FROM ST MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL
    TO LUZ DE MARIA
    SEPTEMBER 13, 2020




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    Beloved People of God:



    RECEIVE PEACE, LOVE AND MERCY PROCEEDING FROM THE MOST HOLY TRINITY.




    In unity, as the People of God who walk without despairing or losing Faith, PROCEED TOWARDS ETERNAL HAPPINESS.



    At this time more than others, you must take decisions that will enlighten you and open the spiritual path for you before it is too late and habit blinds you completely.

    The People of Our King and Lord Jesus Christ are stubborn, hypocritical, presumptuous, arrogant and disobedient; that is why they are suffering. We have been warning you through Divine Mercy about what causes you to lose Eternal Life, yet you do not apply this to yourselves, but to your brothers and sisters.



    I COME WITH MY SWORD HELD HIGH AS A SIGN THAT THE PURIFICATION OF HUMANITY IS ACCELERATING AND WILL BE AS CRUEL AS MAN’S OWN SIN




    You need to empty the human ego of what is keeping you bound to foolishness and pride; you need to apply correction to yourselves and live, work and act in fraternity and Divine Love. You read these Words which I address to you by the Divine Will, and yet you believe that they are for other brothers and sisters; I have to say that they are for each person who reads them - they are for you, not for anyone else, you idolaters of the “I am” of the god of your own ego!



    This is why you do not share the pain of others, you do not suffer with those who suffer, you do not rejoice with those who rejoice, why you live in constant conflict with your fellow men.



    No, Children of God, acting in this way keeps you from acting and working in the manner of Our King and Lord Jesus Christ and drags you along with the current of the world that has lost its values, especially spiritual ones, hence the chaos in which you find yourselves.



    CHANGE: NOT TOMORROW, BUT TODAY
    , at this very moment, so that you would not wander on your own when you need your brothers and sisters. All will need the help of their brothers faced with the Purification that is coming.



    Consider:



    THE EARTH WILL NOT BE PURIFIED WITH WATER, BUT WITH FIRE COMING FROM TECHNOLOGY CREATED TO DESTROY WITHOUT COMPASSION.




    In this devastated, agitated and exhausted world, man directs his gaze and his misdirected force against what represents the Divine. Therefore, People of God, look inside yourselves and transform the constant reproaches that you utter against God into THANK YOU, FATHER! for perfecting me with your love.



    WHAT IS HAPPENING ON EARTH AT THE MOMENT?
    YOU MUST LEARN TO BE CHARITY, INTERIOR PEACE, LOVE, FAITH AND HOPE, SO THAT YOU MIGHT RECEIVE THE SAME.




    Prepare yourselves! What will happen will be more bearable for man if he remains in God, not for those who stay in their “I am”. Such people easily reach saturation: they are not loving and deliberately walk on their own.



    People of God, act on yourselves now, lighten your path so that it would not be more difficult, but rather be a path blessed by Faith and the Love of God.



    People of God:



    The Church of Our King and Lord Jesus Christ breathes its lament: do not get lost, do not fear, be consistent and be assured of the protection of the Queen and Mother who is with you to guide you if you allow her to do so.



    Volcanoes will bring grief to God’s children; do not be careless, stay alert.



    The earth will shake forcefully, creatures will run one way and another faced with the force of nature.




    CREATURES OF GOD!
    BE CREATURES OF FAITH: YOU MUST NOT BE CONFORMED TO WHAT YOU WANT AS HUMAN BEINGS, BUT TO THE DIVINE WILL.




    Beloved People of God:



    This is the time for you to change, to convert and to prepare for more serious things; on this depends how you will carry on living, whether in continuous lamentation or in the Divine Will that gives you Peace. You do not want to be renewed: the mud of the "ego" is more pleasant than conversion based on sacrifice.



    You must carry on praying with your soul, powers and senses, uniting to pray without distractions. Prayers are necessary for you as humanity.




    KEEP IN MIND THAT THE SACRED SCRIPTURE IS STRENGTH FOR GOD’S CHILDREN, THE EUCHARIST IS FOOD FOR GOD’S CHILDREN; NOURISH YOURSELVES BEFORE THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY MAKES ITSELF PRESENT. (cf. II Thess 2:7)




    People of God:



    War is headed down various paths without taking its eyes off the center of Christendom as its goal, so that the sheep would feel threatened.



    FAITH, FAITH, FAITH!




    You will hear Etna roar, the giants will awake and humanity, being caught up in itself, will despair.




    HOW YOU WILL YEARN FOR TIMES GONE BY!
    HOW YOU WILL REGRET THE GREAT IGNORANCE IN WHICH YOU HAVE LIVED!




    Wake up, People of God, wake up; spiritual hunger is galloping over the Earth, physical hunger is galloping (cf. Rev 6:2-8), announcing to humanity what is to come.



    FAITH MAKES THE HUMAN BEING UNSHAKEABLE.

    DO YOU HAVE FAITH?




    I bless you.



    WHO IS LIKE GOD?
    THERE IS NONE LIKE GOD!




    St Michael the Archangel



    HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN
    HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN
    HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN





    COMMENTARY BY LUZ DE MARIA



    Brothers and sisters:

    In this call to conversion, our beloved Saint Michael the Archangel gives us a tour of various scenarios in which humanity is and will be living.

    As the days go by, so the fulfillment of the Revelations is drawing closer.

    Famine is coming to a humanity that denies God and blames him for what happens. Could it be that they will rise up against the People of God and persecute them, blaming them for what has happened?

    Saint Michael the Archangel allowed me to see a group of people, all of them men, deciding the next step to take regarding the destiny of humanity. A humanity struck on the level of health is more vulnerable to being led into social despair and chaos.

    We have been warned: let us not despair.


    LET US NOURISH OURSELVES WITH THE LOVE OF THE TRINITY AND OF OUR HOLY MOTHER FOR EACH ONE OF US.



    Amen.
     
  17. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I am a little lost. Since when has the use of Holy Oils in Catholicism become a bad thing?

    James 5:14

    The Prayer of Faith
    13Is any one of you suffering? He should pray. Is anyone cheerful? He should sing praises. 14Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15And the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick. The Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven.…



     
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  18. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    Within the introduction to the compiled messages offered by Luz de Maria re: natural medicines is given the proper perspective that emphasizes the must of Faith being included. Here is one of the many messages from a couple of years ago that points out the mutation of diseases or also "novel"/unknown viruses which causes them not to respond to developed human medicines. I've seen too many distant commentaries that fail to include all aspects to these gifts of natural medicines re: these particular times and natural events on the horizon.....particularly the mistake of not including the command of trusting with deep faith in our Mother's help, emphasizing that such things alone are never to be considered in themselves to be some kind of "magic" and therefore outside of the Will of God:


    My Beloved People, many diseases are hanging over Humanity, and I mention this and bring it to your attention in order for you to protect yourselves. Viruses are swarming in the air and you must protect yourselves; that is why My Mother has given you and will continue to give you the necessary natural medicines so that you put them into practice, because some viruses have been deformed in laboratories so that they do not react to human medicine. It will be then that unbelievers, having to make use of everything found in Nature and that My Mother has mentioned to you, will see with surprise how their health, if it is Our Will, is restored. I see others of My children worrying too much, more than necessary, over what is material, when before you plagues are looming that can exterminate entire peoples.” Our Lord Jesus Christ, 11.20.2018.
     
  19. Christy1983

    Christy1983 Archangels

    Padraig,

    The article is not about the use of HOLY OIL in Catholicism. It is about the use of alternative healing remedies are often found in New Age/upscale health /occult stores. The particular oil formulation that Luz de Maria recommends, I believe, has traditionally been called "Thieves Oil." It is not original to the alleged message from the Blessed Mother. You can order it online.

    Health care experts cited in the National Catholic Register article are also concerned people might try remedies give in private revelations without checking with their doctors, or even in place of regular medical care. In the longer version of the article, there is this comment from a Catholic priest who is one of the world's best known bioethicist.

    "Another possible reason for the embrace of alternative methods to prevent COVID-19 could be the natural anxiety caused by the pandemic.

    “Even for religious people, divine ‘revelations’ promising healing through essential oils or other formulas may seem to open up ‘magic solutions’ and a way for us to ‘stay in control,’ rather than confronting our fears and entering into a deeper spiritual acceptance of the Divine Plan, a plan that may include passing through the valley of death,” says Father Tadeusz Pacholczyk, Ph.D., Director of Education at the National Catholic Bioethics Center.

    “With respect to COVID-19, we need to rely on properly conducted research studies, rather than claims of visionaries, as we seek to develop drugs or treatments that will offer protective or therapeutic benefits. God intends for us to use science and medicine to push back disease, but we must always temper our push for survival with a sobriety about the finality, inevitability and unpredictability of death. The prospect of the ‘Thief in the Night’ should command more of our attention than any ‘Thieves Oil.’”
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  20. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    No offense, Christy, but your comment and your source/s reflect a complete ignorance of the entirety of these messages given over the years. It also conveniently or just ignorantly ignores all of the source references given within the particular area (only one of many) of natural medicines that actually cover fully the correct uses of the ingredients, often in combination, that make up the many, Good Samaritan Oil being only one of them, preventative and health system enhancers that are currently used by top treatment centers, like Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center for one. It's cute to use an alternative name that is imaginative and based on some early history re: the discovered reason for a prevention due to certain ingredients that were accidentally used at the time by happenstance, but apparently had an effect on a deadly spread of disease which at the time had no other remedy. Such major medical treatment centers, btw, don't necessarily call such immune system enhancers "alternative" methods, but know of them as basic building blocks of a healthy biological system which therefore can prevent such contractions of disease. And all of these supplements are over the counter. The most highly trained physicians today are those with the holistic approach, avoiding regular protocols of treating symptoms alone through potent prescription drugs but doing further damage due to bad side effects. Your source article attempts to make such advance treatments sound like voodoo or "magic solutions". That's just ignorance of the facts. I wouldn't go to a "bioethics center" for any real knowledge about this entire field. The fact that the author stoops to using terms like "magic solutions" for proven healthy natural treatments shows their own field is divorced from the actual science involved. It's also ignorance of what is included in the entirety of these messages which, if one actually cared about the possibilities offered, would know include, as I said before, the absolute requirement of deep faith as well as knowledge of the history and science of these naturally available ingredients given by the Creator.

    We already have now a real interference by govt. agencies in the doctor/patient relationship due to the politization of healthcare.....as they get in between the doctor and the pharmacist, forbidding the most proven preventative for the COVID virus from being normally prescribed as before. Now we have Church publications w/ more attempts to play doctor themselves w/ similar scare tactics about that which they appear to have no real knowledge, and stoop to a generalization of an entire message through terms like "alternative" and "magic solution" which is just ignorant and silly.

    We have the recent history of a run on necessary items for health just in this one new unexplainable pandemic due to interference in supply and the delivery systems. With the knowledge of the type of planned global control of populations.....by way of possibly forced vaccines and a time where normal delivery of regular pharmaceuticals only obtainable through prescriptions is interrupted, those who wish to avoid being controlled by the evil authorities whose goal is population control/eugenics, will only be able to continue to build up their own prevention to disease through those natural medicines that they have gathered beforehand which can be obtained w/o prescriptions. We are being advised about this future and the lack of normal or ordinary life routines beforehand through these gifts being offered by the Mother of God. All science, known and as yet unknown, within the quantum field, is contained in the mind of the Father. I trust that Our Lady's mission here from the Father is given all of the truth of the gifts of His creation that are themselves operative through great Faith within such times.

    I apologize for the length of this rebuttal but it so often appears that objections are remiss of the current approaches in advanced medicine and are not backed by any real reading of all that has been seriously offered in the entirety of these messages that of course go back years.

    The messages are offered here for those who may indeed benefit from them. And the fact that such remedies are not original to these messages but are already in use by those fortunate enough to have kept up on the changes involving natural medicines shows that they are not to engender fear but to help people know what can be of benefit to them in the future by storing up what is beneficial to the immune system et al when the overly prescribed medications of the day are no longer available. People can simply take it or leave it!
     

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