No hard feelings, everyone believes who they wish. To: John Leary Tuesday, May 19, 2015 "At the Warning, I will tell people not to take chips in the body, and not to worship the Antichrist. I will also warn My faithful that they will need to come to My refuges to be protected from those people who are trying to kill them or persecute them." John has heard this many times over the years. There are watchers who think John Leary is a false prophet. For now, he has the approval of his bishop to post the messages on the Net. Doesn't it make sense, the above quote would come from Our Lord, for the Warning is partly a warning? http://www.johnleary.com/index.php/2015/05/page/4/?cat=3&order=ASC
He's not the only one who has spoken of the micro-chip. Verne Dagenais messages spoke of it as well. 11/06/07 The Mark of the Beast My son, I want to further explain to you what the mark of the beast truly means. Apocalypse 13:16-17 states: And he shall make all, both the little and great, rich and poor, freemen and bondmen, to have a character in their right hand or on their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, but he that hath the character, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Now read Apocalypse 14:9-11: And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice: If any man shall adore the beast and his image and receive his character in his forehead or in his hand, He also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mingled with pure wine in the cup of his wrath: and shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torments shall ascend up forever and ever: neither have they rest day nor night, who have adored the beast and his image and whoever receiveth the character of his name. My son, who are the souls who will take this mark? They are lukewarm Catholics, apostate Protestants, and the followers of the antichrist. I will now explain this further for you. My words clearly states those who take the mark of the beast will be tormented forever with fire and brimstone. This means it is a final act of rebellion against my mercy. What would cause a person to rebel against my mercy with the knowledge of eternal damnation upon receiving the mark? It will be a rejection of my mercy through mywarning. The warning shall take place before the mark of the beast is forced on mankind. Otherwise many innocent souls would take this mark not understanding what it truly means. The mark of the beast is more than a computer chip. It is the turning completely of your will to Satan and your sinful desires. A physical mark is an outward manifestation of an inward rebellion against God. Just as baptism, is an outward sign of an inward cleansing of original sin from a soul. During the warning, every soul will know that I exist and that I am the Son of God who is the only way to the Father. My son, souls will experience a miniature judgment and be given a chance to repent and change their wicked ways. This type of knowledge of soul has never occurred on a worldwide scale before in history. Most souls only receive this knowledge after death and are not given a second chance. This is what makes rejection of the warning such a final condemnation. You will see the truth Jesus Christ and then you will reject the truth. You truly will have no excuses. You will be committing the sin of Lucifer and his angels, “ I will not serve.” You will have experienced the truth. No doubts will henceforth remain in the minds of any of my people. Rejection of the warning will leave you with a total rejection of my mercy. This rejection will cause many to totally give their will to Satan and their evil desires. These souls will have taken the mark of the beast on their souls. Just as my faithful, receive the mark of the cross at baptism and confirmation. To repeat, the spiritual mark will be manifested by a physical sign. This physical sign on your being will be required for survival in this world. Those who reject the spiritual mark will reject the physical mark and will be persecuted by the following groups. Lukewarm Catholics will reject my divine life received at baptism and commit the sin of blaspheming my body, blood, soul, and divinity. Hence lukewarm Catholics will persecute my faithful Catholics. After the warning, there will only be one church. All Protestant denominations will have no reason to exist. For all Protestants will see the truth in my Catholic Church. Those Protestants who in their pride reject my truth, will become apostate and persecute my true Catholics. Many Protestants will enter my church because of the warning. The ungodly will persecute my faithful remnant because the ungodly rejected my mercy. A fierce persecution will rage like a fire in certain parts of your world. Europe, North America,and Latin America will persecute my faithful severely.
This is, I think, the most powerful message on the Warning that I've ever heard. It rings so TRUE in my heart. This voice is the same voice that speaks to Mary of Jesus of Agreda in the Mystical City of God. Our God is a God of Mercy, ultimate Mercy, but is also a God of Justice, ultimate Justice. Mother Agreda speaks for instance how Judas sank into the ultimate pit of Hell that had never been occupied before because he was the first one to know Jesus and reject Him so totally. After Judas, many Christians/Catholics go there because having rejected Redemption and the Sacraments there is nothing further to hope for. This has been for me quite an eye opening as to the huge responsibility of our sins as members of the Church with all the Graces and Means of Salvation instituted by the terrifying pains of Jesus' Passion and the Glory of His triumphal Resurrection. Some of us are taking Heaven's Warnings so lightly -even maybe we ourselves here- that it is dreadful to think how much we will have to give an account for. We take from prophets the extraordinary and give the gems to the .... we don't heed the supplications from Heaven to convert, to repent, to pray, fast, sacrifice. We seem to embody the Pharisee's prayer, "Lord, forgive THEM because they are such poor sinners .... " I'm not talking about others, I'm talking about myself. Lord Have mercy and change our stony hearts into hearts of flesh, into Your own Heart!
Yes, I think that the whole 'chip' business in alleged prophecy is actually quite a good guide to seeing if messages are genuine or not. Frankly, I don't have a problem if the government wants to monitor me with chips or anything else. I do not believe for an instant that heaven would concern itself with such things. Although not quite as absurd as the 'Our Lady' of LttW speaking about the money supply in the USA (!), it is basically the same thing. I think I need to go on record saying that I am sure that these messages from Luz de Maria are of a similar vintage to John Leary's messages and other similar ones - namely they are just another set of the countless messages available on the internet which are not authentic.
I can certainly understand, but for the moment I have to disagree here about consigning Luz de Maria to the John Leary category on these grounds alone, chiefly because the videos of the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe weeping oil and the bleeding statue of Jesus in her home constitute evidence that can't simply be ignored. Of course if somebody can demonstrate that there is deliberate fraud going on here, then that's a different story, but experience has taught me to rank objective phenomena higher than my subjective opinions about what does or doesn't interest heaven (Vassula is a case in point, David - it was the objective phenomena of the hieratic writing and the multiple eyewitness reports of those who saw Jesus at her meetings which swayed me in her favour in spite of the pointed critiques of her detractors which might otherwise have made me dismiss TLIG). This doesn't mean that I'm going to swallow everything in the Luz de Maria messages, which may well contain interference from the visionary's subjectivity just like any other, but I'm fairly sure that we're not talking LTTW here. Additionally, the fact that attacks on France and specifically Paris were predicted in these locutions four days before the Charlie Hebdo/anti-Jewish terrorism of January cannot but give me pause for thought... as does the September 17 message that speaks of Europe being lashed by the elements country after country at a time when just this weekend 20 have been killed by devastating and highly unusual floods in the South of France. Yes, these could be 'private meditations', but if so, then the level of intuition is uncanny! Another reason why I persist in taking these locutions seriously is that I simply cannot believe that God is not giving at least some Spanish-language prophecy at the moment given the sheer number of Hispanic Christians, and there aren't many other credible contenders that I can see now that the locutions to Agustin del Divino Corazon have ceased (those to Javier Viesca in Mexico are hugely impressive in their own way, but have a largely pedagogical rather than predictive orientation). Amos 3:7 tells us that God does nothing without revealing it to His servants the prophets, while Christ said explicitly that revealing 'what is to come' is part of the work of the Holy Spirit (John 16:13), so predictive private revelation is something that we should logically expect. I am actually convinced that prophetic speech should be a normative element within the Body of Christ (Paul wanted all to prophesy), and I hear many inter-personal prophetic words - including both a priest and laity delivering the words of Jesus publicly in the first person - each week in the context of a charismatic healing prayer, and it is treated as something normal, not sensational. Yes, prophecy regarding world events is certainly rarer, but for it not to be happening at all goes IMHO against what Scripture leads us to expect. And one of the reasons for the existence of false prophecy is surely to distract attention from the true prophetic. As for the much-contested microchip itself, having done quite a bit of research in the context of my faith-science work on the 'NBIC convergence' and the transhumanist project that I mentioned earlier, I am convinced that those who think that the development of implantable microchip technology is insignificant are extremely naïve. I can name some fairly heavy-weight philosophers (e.g. Jean-Pierre Dupuy, who has done some very thought-provoking work in the field) and theologians (e.g. Fr Joseph-Marie Verlinde in his recent copiously-documented French-language trilogy on the history and present-day renaissance of the eugenic project, or the formidable Anglican thinker George Hobson) who are taking very seriously the whole question of the impact of technological advances on the future of the human species considered at a fundamental level. It is surely difficult to contest that the ability to stock huge amounts of information (Big Data) through the use of nano-devices is the condition of possibility of the emergence of a society in which total surveillance can become a reality.
Objective phenomena are certainly important, Peter, and the special writing from Vassula is certainly something that impressed me as well. So I agree that a weeping image or a statue that bleeds have to be taken seriously but I think 'appropriate content' of messages is very, very important. I respect your desire to keep your mind fairly open on message content but I do think that content needs to be taken into account in the discernment process. Having said that, it can be very dangerous to believe in messages just because they sound 'so true' - because they say things we strongly believe. My many mistakes in discernment often were a result of this kind of false discernment.
I absolutely agree that content needs to be taken into account, but here too the principal criteria have to be objective rather than subjective/aesthetic in order to make an evaluation with some kind of basis to it other than personal preference. We've all seen how many locutions on which folks were undecided (even for a long period of time) eventually fell because something turned up which was an indiscutable red flag. The manifestly failed LTTW prediction is one example; another is the 'Tenderheart' locutions which to many looked quite unimpeachable until one day out of the blue they advocated abandoning Sunday worship for Saturday. That resulted in immediate 'game over'. And we don't even need to talk about the heresies of MDM... Unfortunately it is much easier to prove that a set of locutions are false rather than true for the reason that mystical communication by definition occurs in a mode of perception that we cannot verify from the outside. The hardest cases in my view are the ones where there appears to be simultaneous positive and negative evidence, such as Catalina Rivas and Christina Gallagher where you have to weigh abundant inexplicable phenomena (including stigmatization) against substantiated and as yet unrefuted allegations of plagiarism (Catalina) and serious ethical shortcomings (Christina's apostolate). Here all I can do personally is return an open verdict awaiting further information.
This is VERY REAL AND HAPPENING NOW. The storing of information is being done in the desert in UTAH in a building that is bigger than the Pentagon called--you guessed it..."The Beast". Time Magazine did a front cover article on it....!
Here is her latest message in Spanish translated into English on-line, which speaks again of the micro-chip. 10/8/15 VERY SOON BEGIN WITH THE OBLIGATION AND THE IMPLANTATION OF THE MICROCHIP TO EACH OF YOU WHO WILL ACCEPT IT WILL know that this is the seal of Satan, through which not only will follow his steps and control their social life, but its economic aspect, reaching to control his mind, in such a way that although you want it inside, they may not achieve issue a word of prayer even for relief to be able to ask my son.
Why do you need chip to control mind...possession. Some say at Nazi rallies there were mass possession. The Vatican exorcist has spoken about mass possession. Chips not needed for that...but they are needed for other types of control.
mmm I have not the slightest notion if these are true or not. But this makes me uneasy. These kinds of messages. They simply don't strike me as Marian.
In looking at it from a pure worldly view, I think microchip makes allot of sense to be the means to control who can buy, sell and trade. The technology is already here. All it takes now is a one world government controlled by the person in charge to implement it. On a smaller scale today, school systems all the way through college now are requiring students to get vaccinated. We know what the UN did to lace vaccines with abortifacients in the third world countries. If world powers today are capable of doing this, you can sure bet the Antichrist will do this and much worse with his power. It would be the sure way of making sure that those who keep the faith are persecuted and from our point of view not survive if not for the hand of God to do for his faithful what he did for the Israelite faithful.
I think if we all gave it some serious thought .... We would, sadly, discover how controlled we already are in this "Modern" age. Unless you live in an Igloo beyond the Arctic Circle your life is dependant ... for power, water, pension checks, health care, banking laws, wire transfers, protection ... on & on. Your whole modern life is on multiple data bases ... God only knows where!! GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
