Locutions to the World

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  1. Lately, thank God, we've been given a reprieve for awhile. Seems the ceasefire is pretty much holding and ISIS is not so much in the news.
     
  2. Jon

    Jon Archangels

    Many of the prophetic things often attributed to La Salette are actually parts of the CONDEMNED (in 1923) FALSE message of La Sallete that arose out of disobedience after 1851 and went public in 1879. Any current alleged "Seer" that parrots the condemned elements should be immediately considered "suspicious" today.

    I also believe the following is the only approved "secret" from La Salette 1846 (and explicitly states that all but one (birth of antichrist) of the prophecies will be completed by 1946. How can anyone think any of the prophecies are yet to come????? Did Our Lady LIE to the world in 1846 when she said twice 50 years would be the time frame? I think not:

    Maximin
    On September 19, 1846, we saw a beautiful Lady. We never said that this lady was the Blessed Virgin but we always said that it was a beautiful Lady.

    I do not know if it is the Blessed Virgin or another person. As for me, I believe today that it is the Blessed Virgin.

    Here is what this Lady said to me:

    “If my people continue, what I will say to you will arrive earlier, if it changes a little, it will be a little later.

    France has corrupted the universe, one day it will be punished. The faith will die out in France: three quarters of France will not practice religion anymore, or almost no more, the other part will practice it without really practicing it. Then, after [that], nations will convert, the faith will be rekindled everywhere.

    A great country in the north of Europe, now Protestant, will be converted; by the support of this country all the other nations of the world will be converted.

    Before all that arrives, great disorders will arrive, in the Church, and everywhere. Then, after [that], our Holy Father the Pope will be persecuted. His successor will be a pontiff that nobody expects.

    Then, after [that], a great peace will come, but it will not last a long time. A monster will come to disturb it.

    All that I tell you here will arrive in the other century, at the latest in the year two thousand.”

    Maximin Giraud

    (She told me to say it some time before.)

    My Most Holy Father, your holy blessing to one of your sheep.

    Grenoble, July 3, 1851.

    Melanie
    J.M.J.

    secret which the Blessed Virgin gave me on the Mountain of La Salette on September 19, 1846

    Secr[e]t.

    Mélanie, I will say something to you which you will not say to anybody:

    The time of God’s wrath has arrived!

    If, when you say to the people what I have said to you so far, and what I will still ask you to say, if, after that, they do not convert, (if they do not do penance, and they do not cease working on Sunday, and if they continue to blaspheme the Holy Name of God), in a word, if the face of the earth does not change, God will be avenged against the people ungrateful and slave of the demon.

    My Son will make his power manifest! Paris, this city soiled by all kinds of crimes, will perish infallibly. Marseilles will be destroyed in a little time. When these things arrive, the disorder will be complete on the earth, the world will be given up to its impious passions.

    The pope will be persecuted from all sides, they will shoot at him, they will want to put him to death, but no one will be able to do it, the Vicar of God will triumph again this time.

    The priests and the Sisters, and the true servants of my Son will be persecuted, and several will die for the faith of Jesus Christ.

    A famine will reign at the same time.

    After all these will have arrived, many will recognize the hand of God on them, they will convert, and do penance for their sins.

    A great king will go up on the throne, and will reign a few years. Religion will re-flourish and spread all over the world, and there will be a great abundance, the world, glad not to be lacking nothing, will fall again in its disorders, will give up God, and will be prone to its criminal passions.

    [Among] God's ministers, and the Spouses of Jesus-Christ, there will be some who will go astray, and that will be the most terrible.

    Lastly, hell will reign on earth. It will be then that the Antichrist will be born of a Sister, but woe to her! Many will believe in him, because he will claim to have come from heaven, woe to those who will believe in him!

    That time is not far away, twice 50 years will not go by.

    My child, you will not say what I have just said to you. (You will not say it to anybody, you will not say if you must say it one day, you will not say what that it concerns), finally you will say nothing anymore until I tell you to say it!

    I pray to Our Holy Father the Pope to give me his holy blessing.

    Mélanie Mathieu, Shepherdess of La Salette, Grenoble, July 6, 1851.

    J.M.J.+
     
  3. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    The "locutions" Blessed Mother sure got this one wrong:

    Europe Blocks U.S. from Racing to War Against Russia

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    Europe Blocks U.S. from Racing to War Against Russia
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    Eric Zuesse

    On Friday, 6 March, President Obama placed temporarily on ice his planned increase in weapons and soldiers to help the Ukrainian Government to ‘defend’ Ukraine against the ‘terrorists’ in Donbass, which is the Ukrainian region that had voted 90% for the President whom the Obama Administration overthrew in February 2014. (Here is where the EU first learned, on 26 February 2014, that the overthrow of Viktor Yanukovych had been a coup instead of a genuine popular revolution.) Obama replaced that Government with a racist-fascist anti-Russian regime, which quickly set about exterminating as many residents of Donbass as possible, as quickly as possible (calling them ‘terrorists,’ for their refusal to be ruled by the new Obama-imposed, anti-Russian, Government).

    According to German Economic News, Germany’s Angela Merkel and France’s Francois Hollande are balking at the speed of Obama’s rush to war against Russia.

    Earlier, some of the smaller national economies in the European Union — the Czech Republic, Hungary and Greece — dissented from America’s effort to increase economic sanctions and military measures against Russia. But there is now increasing pressure upon the leaders in Germany, France, and Italy, also to separate the EU from the American rush to war against Russia.

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    Here is my translation of the key passage from the article on this matter, dated March 7th, in German Economic News:

    “Apparently, the developments have shown that in the Euro-zone the Americans’ desire for a full escalation of the conflict against Russia could no longer be accepted without objection by the Europeans. The Americans were apparently informed by Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande that they are concerned about the rise of France’s National Front Party: Its chairman, Marine Le Pen, rejects the current EU policy towards Russia. If the National Front comes to power in France, it would be almost impossible for the EU to pursue a U.S.-coordinated foreign policy, such as they both want to do. Therefore, Merkel and Hollande aim to contain the negative economic consequences to their own nations of sanctions against Russia, so as to prevent victory for the National Front.

    “Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi has spoken with President Putin in Moscow on a stronger partnership between Italy and Russia. The Italians are feeling the effects of the sanctions particularly strongly, and want to avoid an escalation in any case.

    “Greek Foreign Minister Nikos Kotzias also has doubts as to the purpose of the US sanctions policy of the EU.”

    Washington criticizes many European politicians for their opposing Washington’s anti-Russian policies. In Hungary and France, nationalist political parties offer especially strong resistance, because they oppose their own nation’s being ruled by Washington’s dictates. Even though Washington backs nazis in Ukraine, some European right-wing (though not nearly as far right-wing as in Ukraine) parties are patriotically opposed to European taxpayers donating to fund Ukraine’s fascists. The odd result is that some semi-fascist parties in Europe are especially balking at the extreme fascism, even nazism, that Washington supports in Ukraine. It’s too far to the right for them to go; they don’t want to be forced to go that far; they don’t want their nation to fund Washington’s aims.

    Obama thus needs to juggle many balls at once in order to keep the Western Alliance together with him in his overriding foreign-policy goal of destroying Russia.
     
  4. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    This is just a al response.

    You either lead or walk away. But if you walk away don't think we will come back. Maybe the US should isolate and forget about everyone. But then don't ask for help when it all goes to pot. Putin is just testing waters to see how much land he can grab. And what he did in Georgia and Ukraine is actually a great way to take over cities. Just walk in and say your not Russian but from invaded country. Its easy to tell the US to walk away. But the real question is can small local nations handle the angry bear.

    Al
     
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  5. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    Do you mean like O'bama is doing in Iran? Russia did spread it's errors, and the United States is proof of it!
     
  6. Not that there is definite proof of the validity of LTTW, but please note that this news fee is of an alternate" type.
     
  7. Picadillo:

    "Europe Blocks U.S. from Racing to War Against Russia"

    You've got to be kidding. Obama rushing to war anywhere to need some kind of "blocking"? If only. Oh, except through his surrogates "Mother Russia" for whom he's being so very considerately "flexible" for all of her maneuvers EVERYWHERE and Iran's (aided by, again, "Mother Russia") terrorist partners closing in on Israel well supplied by "Mother Iran". What a web...and as LTTW has said and predicted....a flame that has spread throughout the Middle East with Putin's diabolical instigation providing just the materials so necessary for Iran's big bomb, setting the stage for nuke basketball in that region. Meanwhile, EU and NATO is fecklessly unable to prevent anyone from doing anything in their own territory, much less Oblunderhead. They are too susceptible to Putin's energy threats and force threats to boot. Those nations most in need of help in that region, once again, get nothing from the U.S. and understand that O's "flexibility" is for Putin's big plans, not for them. They were all hoping as well that the U.S. would at least help them out with some kind of defensive shield but Zero nixed that as one of his first moves so that Putin wouldn't feel threatened. ha!

    And since our "former" allies have learned they can't wait for Mr. Barack to get organized they just might move on their own:

    Jean-Claude Juncker calls for EU army (today)

    “You would not create a European army to use it immediately,” Juncker told the Welt am Sonntag newspaper in Germany in an interview published on Sunday.

    “But a common army among the Europeans would convey to Russia that we are serious about defending the values of the European Union.”

    The other countries aren't too happy with this idea thinking that NATO could still provide them with some kind of defense....suppose they haven't been taking the lack of response against Putin's bolds too seriously ....but,

    But in Germany Ursula von der Leyen, the defence minister, said in a statement that “our future as Europeans will one day be a European army”, although she added “not in the short term”. She said such a move would “strengthen Europe’s security” and “strengthen a European pillar in the transatlantic alliance”.

    Norbert Röttgen, head of the German parliament’s foreign policy committee, said having an EU army was “a European vision whose time has come”.


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...calls-for-eu-army-european-commission-miltary

    And this kind of thinking might just open up a larger position for the former German Defense Minister...that possible contender for that "great monarch";)

    (Baron) Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg: Positioned for a Comeback?

    https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/12140.2.0.0/karl-theodor-zu-guttenberg-positioned-for-a-comeback

    .......Guttenberg and his wife have an intriguing and captivating family heritage. Karl-Theodor, as we’ve noted before, belongs to a wealthy aristocratic family whose bloodlines have been traced as far back as 1158. In 1700, Guttenberg’s forefathers were conferred the title Baron of the Holy Roman Empire. Guttenberg is also related to the Hapsburgs, another prominent royal dynasty that has a rich history with the Holy Roman Empire. Even today, KT owns an impressive castle that sits high on a hill overlooking the village of Guttenberg, Bavaria. The lineage of Stephanie Gräfin von Bismarck-Schönhausen is equally as impressive. Guttenberg’s wife is the great-great-granddaughter of Otto von Bismarck, the father of the modern German state and the first chancellor in the history of modern Germany.

    but this kind of thinking if it ever actually gets operational could be an invite to Putin to get on the move into the EU even more quickly than previously envisioned.

    and from Libertarian New Zealander, author and founder of the popular website, KeyWiki.org, Trevor Loudon is spending a lot of time lately telling Americans that “amnesty is the trump card” for President Obama to permanently transform America.

    Although many in his country and in America may not be paying attention to politics, those foreign commentators who are, he says, are troubled by what they see happening. Loudon says, for those “thinking New Zealanders, Australians, Canadians, Brits, French and Germans, they are just freakin’ out. They are so worried. They see what Obama is doing to Israel. They see ISIS expanding in the Middle East. They see China building a big blue-water navy in the Pacific. They see Putin bullying the Ukraine, clearly wanting to reestablish his empire in Europe. They are freaking out because they have just come to the realization that they have been relying on America to defend them… when America is actually working for the other side, in many instances.”

    To this self-described libertarian, Obama and his allies have set their sights on not just fundamentally transforming America, but the world. After all, Loudon says, “The world leader who was protecting us from the bad guys [America] is now helping the bad guys.”

    Loudon ends with the admonition, “If America loses its Constitution, everything good about America will go. Vladimir Putin, the Chinese and the Iranians will rule the planet,” he says. “What you guys do in the next two years is going to make a huge difference to the fate of our civilization.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/08/new-zealander-amnesty-is-obamas-trump-card-to-transform-america/
     
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  8. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Golf anyone???? nothing to see here!
     
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  9. Funny if it wasn't so sad....Obama's usual reply to world on fire all around him.
     
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  10. And IMHO, Put in has gotten word of the Third Secret and is hastily surrounding the former satellite countries.
     
  11. Interesting! Would you say then that Putin is in defiance of God's warning and attempting, then, like the fallen angels, and being influenced by them, to attempt to run things outside of God's will?
     
  12. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

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  13. That is exactly what I'm saying. The reason, I believe, our pope's have not divulged the Third Secret is bc of what would happen if he'll got wind of it. And who better represents hell than "Russia spreading her errors"?
     
  14. Jan F

    Jan F New Member

    It appears that the information about Monsig Esseff has been pulled from this site. Does anyone know if he has withdrawn his support of these messages? I've sent him a message but have not yet received a reply.
     
  15. Please refer to comment #327. That question has come up a number of times from those who missed the earlier answers and this explanation is the reason.
     
  16. CrewDog

    CrewDog Guest

    I'll make it easy ... from Msg #327:
    "............Msgr. still is in charge of the website. The poor man was deluged with phone calls and he is a VERY busy man. He was kind enough to give me his personal cell phone number. He took his face off of it so he wouldn't be deluged anymore. He still is spiritual director of the person who is in one of his own prayer groups in Father's parish........."
     
  17. Jan F

    Jan F New Member

    Thanks.
     
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