Locutions to the World

I noticed the same thing.

 

Yes, this is a very significant development of these messages. Here is a quote from Feb 16, 2013:
I have fashioned this new pope with my own hands. Our spirits are as one, joined together by the Spirit of God. He understands my plans and listens to my words. He walks with me. I have shown him my secrets and shared with him my plans. All that he does is guided by me. He takes no step without invoking my name. How I have kept him, like none other, always preparing him for the moment when I say to the world, “This is my pope, fashioned by my hands. He will be a light to the nations and the glory of my people, Israel”. None will defeat him, even though he has no power. None will destroy him, even though the fires of hell have already tried to do that. He is mine, hidden for so many, many years in my heart and now about to be revealed to the whole world.

The author of these messages no longer speaks this way of the Pope. This is because, in my view, the author did not know who the Pope was going to be and is not supportive of him.

 

On another thread where there is also discussion about LTTW Mother Superior 7 mentioned a priest who speaks strongly about all things Fatima and how much people need to wake about the world's situation because we haven't done as yet what our Lady stipulated....and that by thinking it's all been done people have stopped praying for the conversion of Russia and doing the other things requested for peace. His name is Fr. Ronan Murphy and he has a very interesting story himself. I then found this iPod with an interview with him:

It was included in this thread here:
http://motheofgod.com/threads/has-russia-been-consecrated-excellent-read.6944/page-3

Fr. Ronan Murphy interview:

Consecration of Russia has Not been done:

http://radiomaria.us/tag/camden-new-jersey/

Anyway, since so many people today have forgotten about the message of Fatima and that the bishops themselves have to be awakened as well since they will have to join in union with the Pope for a full Consecration of Russia, as also stipulated by OLOF, there may have to be another priest son of Mary who will awaken the faithful so that more will begin demanding recognition by their bishops to do something....esp. when things really begin to alarm people that no human leader can get us out of this mess. The Pope has to be the one to do the Consecration but he needs the Bishops to understand what that means and join him...and the people too must realize the importance of our Lady of Fatima in this awaited for rescue. Perhaps we need a grassroots effort to bring our Lady on to the scene and such a priest could get the ball rolling. The Pope is moving out to all parts of the world to draw more and more to the Church but he also needs cooperation and help from the faithful to know how much of a part our Lady has to be recognized before things can happen.

Story of his life: http://airmaria.com/2010/03/27/video-short-series-53-amazing-story-of-fr-ronan-murphy/

 

Question/Observation: In the locutions, Our Mother continues to speak of Her " priest son". For awhile I thought it to be Pope Francis, but if I recall, this priest would be a martyr in Jerusalem. Our pope has visited Jeruselum and thankfully he is alive. Thoughts?

 

There's discussion/explanation pertaining to that here:

http://motheofgod.com/threads/has-russia-been-consecrated-excellent-read.6944/page-3#post-77781

 

Pope Francis visited Israel last year, but the locutions speak about the "Bishop dressed in white" laying down his life when Israel is at its lowest point:

"The city will already have suffered much and Israel will begin to despair, wondering what can be done. Then this figure clothed in white will come, sent by the Father just as He sent me. He will come to save Israel, just as I came."

What I gather from that is that he will visit Israel when it is in a time of distress and that is when the prophecy will be fulfilled.

 

Thank you, as well.

 

And have you noticed how Pope Francis speaks often about not living much longer....maybe 2 or 3 years....then home to the Father? He's also mentioned recently his understanding of the dangers and that he leaves his life in God's hands, only though that he's asked that if he's killed for it to be quick because he doesn't tolerate pain very well!

 

Ok, here is what LTTW stated (it took me a while to compile this):

Before the conclave:
- The next Pope (Francis) will be the Pope who'll consecrate Russia, transfer the Holy See to Jerusalem and die there as a martyr.
- His pontificate will be short.
- He'll know his role.
- He'll be the Pope of Fatima.
- He'll be a prophet to the nations.
- He'll prepare the world just in time for the satanic assault.
- Mary's name will always be on his lips during his pontificate.
- Many will disagree with his directions.
- Many will oppose him and even threaten him.

Few days after Francis election:
- Francis is the Pope who will do what stated earlier.
- He'll have to reveal the third secret of Fatima.

December 2013:
- Pope Francis and the Church should worry about consecrating Russia.
- A hidden priest will consecrate Russia:
http://www.locutions.org/2013/12/10-marys-priest-son/
- He'll reveal himself when things will start to get worse.

June 2014:
- Pope Francis and the Church should worry about consecrating Russia.
- A Pope will be sent who'll be the messenger himself:
http://www.locutions.org/2014/06/7-satans-worldwide-plan/
- He'll know his role.

Now:
- There is a hidden priest who has received the gift of Fatima in his hearth.
- He's the messenger of Fatima.
- He'll know the devil plans and he'll reveal them to the world.
- He'll be able to work signs and wonders.
- He'll be a light to the nations.
- He'll reveal himself before October 13th, 2017.

What happened?

 

This puts it all together. Thank you for your hard wor .

 

That's what I find confusing. That there is a hidden priest, but that this pope will consecrate Russia.

 

The locution even states that the hidden priest will consecrate Russia (in 2016, as we've recently learned).

 

Yes, but isn't the pope's good enough?

 

Well, if Pope Francis is the messenger himself....that may mean that if he does go to a city in destruction (Jerusalem/Israel under siege) and is martyred there as the "bishop in white" he would fulfill the Fatima message, as the living "messenger", knowing his role beforehand.

And then there is this message from Dec. 25, 2014:

The mysteries of evil buried within human history and human hearts will slowly come to the surface.

In the beginning, many will see these events in the old perspective. However, as they continue to surface, the eyes of many will be opened, especially the eyes of the Church and of the Holy Father.

So the Pope could still remain the priest son who still has not brought Fatima on the scene of the whole world as yet because the events have not surfaced to the degree that they will force eyes to be opened and cause the stirring in the Church that will prepare for the Consecration that is mentioned on Dec. 31, 2014. She's also mentioned that the Pope has already been in danger (ISIS target; threat while in Philippines; threat on him personally in the Vatican) but that she's protected and continues to protect him until his ultimate sacrifice. And him being a light to the nations, she has previously said that his sacrifice will enlighten or shock the nations calling for unity of the faiths, etc. So perhaps the priest for the purpose of Fatima is still held within the Pope, yet to be revealed. He HAS though been revealing Satan's plans:
“That is what Jesus wanted, the unity of all,” the Pope said, still speaking off the cuff. “The devil, as we know, is the father of division. He is one that always divides, always makes war and does so much evil.”

Will it be just the Pope or will there also be another who will help get those "stirrings in the Church" going for a focus on Fatima?? Guess we'll see as things unfold.

 

You have a gift.

 

- He'll be able to work signs and wonders.
- He'll be a light to the nations.

Sounds like the Antichrist to me.

 

I don't think,though, that the antichrist will want to consecrate Russia to Our Lady.

 

I'm sure that a man of faith will help during the tribulation, because that's stated even by Pedro Regis, and that apparition is authentic. So, that man of faith could also be the priest son of Locutions. On the other hand, do you think that Francis is preparing the road for Pope Peter II (see Prophecy of the Popes of Saint Malachy)? He's also named "Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations, and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills [i.e. Rome] will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people.". We already have the Islamic State wanting to destroy Rome. Moreover, if you notice, Francis never calls himself Pope, only Bishop of Rome, and he went to live in a different building, as if he's waiting for the election of the final Pope, Peter II. Interesting, isn't it?
So, we would have the escape from Rome and the death in Jerusalem of Francis, with a short period without Peter, then the election of Peter II, who will lead the boat of Peter (the Church) in the storm, from Jerusalem.

 

In the prophecy about the "dreadful judge will judge His people" includes I believe...."and then ... the end" seems more like the complete end where He comes as the judge rather than as now when Mercy is offered until the end of this era and the beginning of the promised era of peace. All we can do I suppose is speculate. There is also the original name of Francis of Assisi stated to be: "Giovanni Francesco di PIETRO Bernardone" and then, as Pijon mentioned above that Pope Francis sees himself more as Bishop of Rome and treats that diocese as a bishop concerned with its people, wanting all bishops to see themselves with more attention to the needs of their own individual dioceses. There are always a lot of speculative hidden descriptions in all of Malachy's popes.....sort of cryptic. The first Peter was not Roman of course and his original name was changed to that meaning of rock. He brought the Church to Rome because of the persecution in Jerusalem. Could Francis then be the catalyst Pope (still the rock) to return the Church to its foundational home of Jerusalem, home of the first Peter?

And with the predicted as yet entire world persecution of Christians causing the Faith to go underground, there could be a legitimate Pope elected in secret after Francis' death but without world recognition, permitting the control of the antiChrist's NWO religion, aping the Church, with his own personal "prophet" ("the antiChrist and his prophet") attempting to mimic what people expect from a head of a religion but who will really be an anti-Pope, not in the sense that he's some kind of legitimate but rogue pope (for that would be denying the Holy Spirit), but that he will be the antithesis of what a true Pope is. He could be some fallen former cardinal who would then look as though he could qualify by Church standards to be a new pope, purely via the rubrics only. He will be the mouthpiece of the antiChrist for the sake of a secular and controlled "religion". It will help the people to rationalize giving themselves over to the evil of the antiChrist in order to live and feed themselves, etc., when every means for such will have been destroyed. That book that Pope Francis keeps mentioning, "Lord of the World" by Robert Hugh Benson, gives the same kind of background only in a further developed high tech type world of spaceships for ordinary travel, etc.

With the hope that our Lady is truly trying to guide us and giving us signs of hope to look for to ward off discouragement and despair when the going gets tougher....she seems to be fulfilling the promise that God does not punish without first warning His people. And perhaps the "signs and wonders" she mentions aren't flashy as in those like the antiChrist could attempt through the power of Satan, which never in the end last, (but what people seem to expect in a materialistic world), but things like healings or casting out of demons (which this Pope, although humbly denied personally, has already seemed to do for the possessed and the sick....esp. in spirit). I think there are reports of people seeing rainbows during some of his missionary visits....or the sun spinning....or bleeding statues. Again, who knows. Just have to "watch and pray"!

 

I have to admit, those statements gave me pause. They do describe what the antichrist is supposed to do -- or whoever the person will be who fits the "antichrist" figure for our day.

It has always been said that the a.c. will come upon the scene at its darkest hour of chaos and disaster, to bring the world its answers, to bring hope where there was only despair, a person to lead the world. Then, about the time order and plentitude are brought back to society, we get hit right between the eyes with slavery and executions. So we have to have our eyes open wide.

I have gone to read Benjamin Creme's Maitreya website every so often; I've known about him for thirty years, and he's no "here today, gone tomorrow" joke, he's here for the long haul, and a lot of new age people follow him. He has set himself up to be our definition of the antichrist, calling himself the Christ / Buddha / whatever enlightened one anyone prefers to call him. He has had a rare advertisement on tv, you may have happened across it at some time. Starts off with a picture of the Christian image of Jesus, and then someone in a turban, and the Buddha, and it goes on to ask us if we are ready for his return? Because, he says, he is coming.

And BTW, I saw that advertised on a Christian movie channel, with the words Share International at the bottom of the screen -- the station had no idea what they were actually showing people.

This Maitreya character claims to be very old -- ancient.

Reading the website -- called Share International, and you should pray first before looking in -- over the years, his forerunner, Benjamin Creme, who plays a sort of John the Baptist role, has kept the New Age community apprised as to the M's readiness to come upon the scene when the world is prepared and ready. It has long been said that he was already set to come on, but the world inhabitants have been dragging their feet, so to speak, not ready for proper enlightenment yet.

Meanwhile, he has supposedly appeared on tv on occasion, has been seen on interviews, as an ordinary man, incognito, not revealed by his true Maitreya identity.

Remember, Charlie J. says he has seen a character -- his angel calls him Menses -- who fits the bill of a possible a.c. type. Someone who apparently will appeal to religious people -- very smooth, and I gather, "spiritual".

B.C. talks about how the Maitreya person has signs and wonders ready to prove himself to us. Huge images in the sky to announce his arrival. Really. Just like in the Bible, with Jesus coming in the clouds.

While we hear about crosses in the sky, from many of our messages.

It isn't all on his page at this time -- they've changed things around a lot -- but on the M. website they were reporting how the world was taking notice of the two suns on the horizon, and how our intergalactic brothers from around the universe -- the "aliens", to us -- are stationed and ready to come and help with the worldwide enlightening process.

I always said that the public needs to be ready for these "aliens", because it probably is in the cards that we will be seeing them up-close and personal, and everybody needs to know that they are not our friends. Picture it -- we no longer need to obey narrow-minded traditional religion, now that these superior beings have come to tell us the "real truth" and set us free. Imagine the possibilities, society turned upside down (and we thought it already was).

So as I start to see lines from Locutions, like those above, a bell dings. Not one that causes me to quit reading, but one that reminds me what to be looking for.

I've studied New Age "channeled" messages since the 80's and I know what they are expecting. There is no traditional religion: such as that is the obstacle that will need to be gotten rid of, such beliefs are what holds humanity in bondage, that stands in the way of our next-step enlightenment and stage of evolution.

I read all the Zechariah Sitchen books, so I know how the story goes, how they come around every 30-some-thousand years and elevate us (having originally created us), Planet X interference, world upheaval, and all that. I think "they" are the gods of our mythologies, and any reading of them proves them to be sinful -- not God. They have no use for holiness, and there's a key.

And there is the false religion that will be presented to the world, the one we will most likely have to battle. Will all that happen and be completed in the next three years? Or not? Or will it be brought back to broaden at a later time?

The (serious, religious-quality) new agers think they have the jump start on us. They consider us to be stuck in the mud, and we will naturally need to be disposed of in their plan. That thought is already entrenched by many new age believers in our time, it's not a question.

Reading new age channeled messages delivered by their avatars, their teacher spirits, their "ascended masters" (their locutions), you never hear anything about sin. They don't believe anything is sin, there is no need for a savior in that regard. There is merely unfortunate misunderstanding, people caught in their lower levels of progression. What Jesus did, was a different story from what we have been traditionally taught, and we can all become Christs, just as he became.

Goodness to be attained, in their view, is all about being peaceful and loving to each other, total tolerance (except for us), and taking care of the environment, but there's nothing about our sinfulness, or a need for Jesus suffering / sacrificing on the Cross. Their terminology twists and turns everything Christianity believes in, and will leave a lot of people's heads spinning in confusion.

On the Maitreya's website, I was always alarmed at how he would also take credit for Marian apparitions and messages -- even Medjugorje. Now, you can imagine how Protestants will view that -- "We told you so!" So he has it all covered, what to say, how to warp his messages. I bought a certain book once that claimed to be of Mary's messages, and the whole thing was slanted New Age. The speaking source claimed to be the very same Mary from Medjugorje, but it belittled Catholic beliefs, saying she had to speak in Catholic terms to those children, to be believed, simply because it was the religion they were used to. I knew I could throw away the book after that. The Medjugorje messages bring people to the Church. (And Protestants will say -- "See, we told you so!")

When I saw the lines up above, bells rang to use careful discernment. "Watch and weigh".

I don't know if I ever ran across this idea before that there would be another leader to rise up from Catholicism and lead the way, in those same terms we hear of the a.c. I think Charlie has recently touched on something similar (I have to read that again) but this was my first real hearing of it in the Locutions.

As strongly as we may feel sure about a messenger's own personal credentials, we can not be sure of their Information Source. Anyone who is credible and faithful will advise we keep our antenna up, no matter who they are.

So I regard one thing to always tune into, is how the Source speaks of sin, sacrifice, and atonement. I don't think satan can tolerate talking about that -- but I'm not sure. Just that he usually does not, but that may be to first tickle our ears with a pleasant sounding, "you're fine just the way you are, no worries". He might could use words about sin to catch the rest.

Whatever he does, there is always something "off", something slithery -- he can't help himself.

I keep in mind that anything valid coming from a Catholic-minded source may be trashed by satan, just so it can look like the antichrist to Protestants, who are perpetually warned about all things speaking Catholic.

So it gets complicated, and a person really needs to know their faith very well before openly embracing "signs and wonders". Most people don't know their own faith very well, and many today have never even had any faith to start with, and they're primed for anything.

Just trading notes. I'm enjoying reading these threads.