Locutions to the World

I think the proof of the pudding in a prophesy is in the eating. And if we are honest, none of us could digest the long conclave thing with ease..

 

I'll leave it up to the spiritual director. He knows his/her heart, I do not. No one forces you or me to even read them, so its a mute point. I choose to, you do not. So be it.

 

Yes, you are absolutely right.

 

Jesus did not need guns to defend Himself.
But that was not His Mission for our salvation.
We are on our separate missions here and therefore are given the guidelines - THOU SHALL NOT MURDER - is one of them.
everything else is you free will...

p.s. the above does not mean I support MDM or on the contrary - do not support her. I don't know and I do not have position on an issue.

 

For me, I am trying to be as peace loving as I can. I pray for peace therefore I must be peace, anything contrary to this is contradictory for me.

The above messages take away for me, this life of peace that I am doing my utmost to live. You know, I had to move from my home because we were hated as Catholics. Long story, much physcial and emotional damage was done. It took my family and I a long time to recover. I was so tempted to retaliate at the time. I am so thankful that I didn't. I didn't sell out on my values. This means more to me than anything,

 

I understand your position. And I understand why do you defend it and try to deliver it to others - becasue it took you work of your soul to get there.
You will have more fruits of haven than others, since you were able to overcome the desire of retaliation.
Everybody has their own road and their own speed.

 

I only came across the Locutions to the World information two months ago through people on this forum. I am cautious because I have not determined if they are genuine or not. I am prudently observing these messages like many others. I uderstand that yourself and perhaps a few others have determined that they are not genuine. I respect that, but I have not come to that conclusion within my own study of them or the arguments (pro or con) provided from others on this forum. I don't feel this is unreasonable, atleast if or until I see Church doctrine challenged or there is something so absurd that it turns me off to it. Same thing I have done with Pedro Regis' messages for the past two years, which at this point I feel are authentic.

 

Locutions are not always black and white. Most people I know, who read Catholic prophecy, have a following towards Father Gobbi locutions (myself included). On this forum it has been debated vigorously whether a few locutions he made, that did not seem to take place, invalidated all his years of messages. I listened to Father Gobbi in person many moons ago and have always felt his locutions were authentic. I do know that some of them did not meet time frames he wrote of. Using the same criteria for World Locutions as used with Father Gobbi writtings, I would assume that Mary's Child does not follow his locutions either?

 

I took a break from this site for a short while and stopped reading prophecy etc from other sources too.. and decided to spend the time in prayer instead.. some things I noticed was much more peace in my mind and much less worry and confusion.
One thing I have noticed though is that we all (me too) like to be "right" in our thoughts and words.. hence all the defending and justifying.

 

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Thank you very much Insearch. x

 

When it comes to Church doctrine, you bet, I want to be right! When it comes to prophecy, it is for me, not so much to be "right", but to be better prepared. Most prophecy is not about Church doctrine, but about preparing us for change, suffering, chastisement etc... Our Lord and our Blessed Mother love us so much that they want to prepare us for what lies ahead. So if not reading prophecy makes one at more peace... then I say don't read it. If it helps others prepare better... then I say read it. It's the same as Garabandal messages that have been an arguement on this forum by a few non-believers. I say if you don't want to believe, more power to you. But I do not understand why some seem to make it their apostolate to get others to disagree with one prophecy, apparition or locution as if they have the "truth" in such discerment.

 

People do it out of the same motive that others share. LOVE and wanting to help their brother/sister, worried that they will be led astray and forget Christ and His teachings, worried that they will be moving away from Gospel teachings ever so subtle at first.. but it only takes tiny stones and plenty of them to block a stream, when they are piled high enough. This is the reason Fatima.

 

Tiny stones gathered can block the stream of truth as well. Just a thought

 

That is very true Fatima.

 

Tiny stones gathered can block the stream of grace, as well

 

Very interesting that our discussion on locutions and discernement is being addressed by Michael Brown today http://spiritdaily.com/locutions1.htm

 

The messages on Violence (in the U.S) specifically have touched my heart tonight....MUCH TO PRAY ABOUT!

The Voices of Violence

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1. Middle East Violence​

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The days that are ahead are uncharted and will twist and turn. Many events will happen that will not be seen for what they are. They will be written off as unimportant. However, looking back, people will see that they were the first steps on an entirely new road of destruction. New personalities will emerge because of the great changes. People who did not think they could claim great power will seize their new opportunities. It will be the clever and the evil ones who will take advantage of the great vacuum that has suddenly emerged on the world scene.




Those whose voices would usually be heard will either be quiet or ineffective. They will see that they are really powerless in the face of the tide of violence.


Only those who preach violence will be heard because no one will oppose them or confront them or even threaten them. Their voices will go forth, be heard, and grow stronger – as if what they were saying is true. Violence and acts of violence will be the only words spoken.


The repercussions cannot be seen. Many will say that this had happened before and then cooled down. However, this situation is different. There is no peace to go back to. People will not cool down because so much has been destroyed that they have nowhere to return to. Violence is the modern word, the today word. Peace is quiet – no longer proposed a legitimate alternative and no longer attractive because it holds no rewards. Only violence is rewarded.


The core of society in the Middle East no longer exists. Only violence offers a hope of a better future – somehow- when the so-called enemies are removed. That is the great delusion that Satan has used to entrap everyone – his friends and his foes. They are all the same to him – people he wants to drag to hell as soon as they do his tasks.

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2. A Person Chosen By God​

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My response to violence will not be long is coming. The crises are at the door and they will not wait for politicians to decide. These crises have their timetable. They will come crashing in, when they desire and how they choose. No one will hold them back once they are unleashed. Whom will I raise up? To whom will I give the mantle of justice? A person after my own heart. This is my revelation. I will raise up the one whom I will call out of hiding. Yes, out of hiding, for he is unknown, hidden in the depth of my heart. When he comes forth, all will know that he belongs to me. He is mine and I will receive the glory for rescuing the world.

 

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3. The Outbreak of Violence​

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The path of destruction will not be a road that moves straight ahead. It will zig-zag, go back and forth, and even turn on itself and on its own people. Once unleashed, destruction will find its own way. Whatever is in its path, will succumb to its infernal fires. Some people are more vulnerable than others. Others have built up a resistance and are held closely together by bonds of love. Love is the answer. When people love one another they will not turn against each other. They will resist the temptation to violence against someone who is weak and can easily be taken advantage of.
That is what will first sweep across the nations. People will see that they can gain certain goals by violence. They will see that others are weaker and will not be able to resist. My laws which say “Do not kill” and “Do not steal” will mean nothing to them. They will seize their opportunity and violence will break out. They will not realize that they have unleashed destructive forces that cannot be contained or even directed. This path of destruction will not move straight ahead but will go back and forth and will even turn upon itself. Beware of violence. When this is unleashed, no one is in control.

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4. Violence at the Center of Society​

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Why do I speak on such a theme? Because violence is in the ascendency and will soon take center stage. Violence begins on the margins where security cannot be adequately enforced and where rebellion has time to grow and spread. At the center, however, there usually remain areas of stability and control. When violence breaks out, people turn to this center for help.
Soon violence will reach this center of society. Institutions needed for stability will be attacked and overthrown. There will be no center of stability to look to. Violence will have moved from the margins to the center.

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5. Avoiding the Burning Lava of Violence​

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Violence is like burning lava that destroys everything which lies in its path. It destroys life that has taken so many centuries to bring about. In a short time, the culture of life is instantly ripped apart and cannot be mended or restored. Human relationships and human culture are pieced together slowly, but they are ripped apart quickly. I say this so that my words are etched into your souls.
Do not take up the sword. Do not use torches of fire. Do not fire your weapons. Seek your safety by being prepared. Flee whenever necessary. I will guide you. Look ahead. Do not be caught off-guard. See the warning signals. I promise to guide you and keep you safe. The greatest protection is not to meet violence with violence, but to see ahead of time the path of violence and to flee so that this stream of lava does not reach you. Blessed are those who heed my words.

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6. America Has Not Repented​

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What will I do to those who pour out this lava of violence? How will I treat them? Are they my messengers of retribution or are they agents of my enemy Satan? They are both and they must be seen as such.
When violence and destruction break out against a nation of peace (as happened at the Twin Towers) people must see this for what it is. Violence is a warning that the people are not living under God. I do not refer to the people who suffered in that tragedy, but to the whole nation. America has sinned. It has killed its unborn. These are far more numerous than those killed in the Twin Towers.
Certainly an enemy did this evil. Yet, the sins of America have cried out for so long. Americans have shouted to me, “We do not want you in our national life”. So, I withdrew my hand of protection and I allowed your enemies to come against you. I did this so you would repent and turn to me. Has this happened? Has America acknowledged its sins? Not at all. America, you have not learned your lesson. I want you to see your need for my protecting hand. Instead, you have trusted in your own strength to rebuild. How often must I let your enemies attack you before you say, “Let us return to the Lord. He will be our salvation?”

 

On reading this I have the feeling he is referring directly to the USA,to societal break down.

Does anyone else read Mark's writing this way, I wonder?

 

From everything that I have compiled, it all indicates to me that yes indeed the US will endure a great revolution, societal break down and anarchy for it's many sins of abortion, sexual sins (including gay marriage), perverted movie industry (Hollywood), and it's financial greed. All of Europe will endure war and be taken over by foreign enemies. I believe all of this takes place within the next 2 years. Then comes the Warning.