"Israel is preparing to Commit Genocide"

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  1. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    St. Maximilian Kolbe has been called antisemitic in retrospect. He was unswerving in his comments about the perfidy of the Jews of his day, and it’s difficult if not impossible to find an English translation of those passages today. His Polish order will not allow it. (I spent a year with a priest who knew his background and writings inside and out, as well as how difficult it is to obtain English translations of his lesser known polish writings and permission to reprint excerpts; St. Kolbe’s order at one time owned the manor house where I lived in Massachusetts and some of his confreres were based there at one time.)

    Because he witnessed the juncture between global Freemasonry, global communism and Zionism, St. Kolbe was adamant about the perfidy of much of modern Jewish thought and movements.

    He quoted extensively from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. There was enough truth in the Protocols that St. Kolbe obviously felt it had merit, even if subsequent generations now claim it was a Russian fraud.
     
  2. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1983/04/14/kolbe-anti-semitism-2/

    Kolbe & Anti-Semitism | Daniel Schlafly
    To the Editors:

    In a review of Thomas Keneally’s Schindler’s List and Patricia Treece’s A Man for Others: Maximilian Kolbe, Saint of Auschwitz in the Words of Those Who Knew Him, John Gross claims that Father Kolbe’s papers “kept up a relentless anti-Semitic campaign” and quotes from an article Kolbe wrote in 1939 in which he refers to “international Zionism” as the guiding hand behind the “criminal mafia” of Masonry, which in turn was stoking the fires of “atheistic Communism.” While the reviewer stops short of charging, as the Wiener Tagebuch did in April, 1982, that Maximilian Kolbe was a “rabid racist anti-Semite,” and does mention that Father Kolbe did try to restrain his collaborators from attacks against Jews, Mr. Gross’s conclusion is of the same order.

    The principal sources for Father Kolbe’s life and work, however, paint a quite different picture of the man: Gli Scritti di Massimiliano Kolbe, Eroe di Osiecim e Beato della Chiesa (3 vols; Florence: Edizioni Citta di Vita, 1975-1978) and Patavina seu Cracovien. Beatificationis et Canonizatonis Servi Dei Maximiliani M. Kolbe Sacerdotis Professi Ordinis Fratrum Minorum Conventualium(Rome: Sacred Congregation of Rites 1964), the former, the complete collection of Kolbe’s writings and sermons, the latter, some 940 pages of sworn eyewitness testimony. From these records it is clear that the Jewish question played a very minor role in Kolbe’s thought and work. Of his 1,006 extant letters and 396 other writings (newspaper and magazine articles, spiritual conference, etc.), only thirty-one refer to Jews and Judaism. Their content is overwhelmingly spiritual and apostolic with few comments of any kind on contemporary political, social, economic, or other secular concerns.

    As Mr. Gross mentions, Father Kolbe’s main interest was his missionary work, in Kolbe’s words, “to seek the conversion of sinners, heretics, schismatics, Jews, etc., and, especially, Masons.” In this effort, “zeal” was always to be tempered by “prudence” and by respect for the individual. In 1926, he wrote that “Jesus died for each one of us without distinction, and that each of us, also each Jew, is always unworthy and is the son of our common heavenly mother” (Scritti, III, pp. 256-257).

    Father Kolbe did, however, accept uncritically the picture of a Zionist-Jewish-Masonic conspiracy presented in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, a work widely circulated in the Poland of his day. Thus, several of his mentions of Jews speak approvingly of the Protocols, and, as in the quote cited by Mr. Gross, one can find such phrases as “Jewish-Masonic conspiracy,” “cruel clique of Jews,” and “their work (the Talmud) which breathes hatred against Christ and the Christians.”

    Yet, as on other issues, he warned against translating this image into social, political, or economic activism. Thus, in the admonition to his collaborators to which Mr. Gross is apparently referring, Father Kolbe states “speaking of the Jews, I would devote great attention not to stir up accidentally nor to intensify to a greater degree the hatred of our readers against them, who are already so ill-disposed or sometimes downright hostile in their confrontations” (letter to Father Marian Wojcik, editor of the Rycerz Niepokalanej, the monthly devotional magazine founded by Kolbe, Scritti, II, p. 183). Similarly, in a letter to his religious superior, Father Anselm Kubit written June 22, 1937, Father Kolbe describes a certain Monsignor Trzeciak as a “fiery anti-Semite to the point of being a chauvinist. Thus, the Maly Dziennik (a religious daily also founded by Kolbe) cannot follow his line and not all of his writings can find a place in the columns of the Maly Dziennik (Scritti, II, p. 323). Even in the 1939 article cited by Mr. Gross, Father Kolbe, after presenting the picture of a Jewish-Masonic conspiracy, goes on to state that “true scoundrels, those of evil intent, who sin with full awareness are relatively few.” Urging his readers to respond in a spirit of love and concern, he asks, “how can you not extend a hand to those people?” (Scritti, III, pp. 548-550).

    The real test of Father Kolbe’s alleged anti-Semitism came at the outbreak of World War II when thousands of refugees were driven by the Nazis from western Poland. Numerous Polish witnesses have testified how Father Kolbe, himself just released from two-and-one-half months of German imprisonment and torture, sheltered all he could at his friary of Niepokalanow near Warsaw, without distinguishing between German or Pole, Christian or Jew (Polish estimates of the number of Jews cared for at Niepokalanow range from several hundred to more than two thousand). The refugees, Jews included, were given food, fuel, and clothing, and the sick were treated in the friary hospital. Kolbe frequently visited and consoled the refugees, without distinction of nationality or religion, even organizing a special New Year’s party for the Jews to balance the Christmas celebration for the Christians. Of particular note is the testimony of Rosalis Kobla, who lived near the friary. “When Jews came to me asking for a piece of bread, I asked Father Maximilian if I could give it to them in good conscience, and he answered me, ‘Yes, it is necessary to do this because all men are our brothers’ ” (Patavina, Seu Cracovien, pp. 389-390). Brother Juwentyn Mlodozeniec, who was at Niepokalanow at the time, quotes a certain Madame Zajac, a delegate of the Jewish refugees, as saying “in the name of all the Jews present here, we want to express our warm and sincere thanks to Father Maximilian and all his brothers” (I Knew Blessed Maximilian Kolbe, Washington, NJ: AMI Press, 1979, p. 53).

    Thus, while Maximilian Kolbe shared some of the anti-Semitic stereotypes so widespread in prewar Poland, his image of the Jews, as of all who did not share his faith, was of people who were prisoners of error, not objects of hatred. Whatever theories he espoused, when he acted it was in a spirit of respect and charity, as his supreme sacrifice at Auschwitz showed.

    Daniel Schlafly

    St. Louis University

    St. Louis, Missouri

    Warren Green

    St. Louis Center for Holocaust Studies

    St. Louis, Missouri

    John Gross replies:
    Diana Dewar devotes several paragraphs to the question of anti-Semitism as it arises in connection with Father Kolbe’s prewar career as editor and publicist. They seem to me inadequate and in some respects evasive, but it is a measure of how completely Patricia Treece chooses to ignore the problem in her own book that one feels positively grateful for them by contrast.

    That the problem is a very real one would surely be apparent from Daniel Schlafly and Warren Green’s letter alone. In the Poland of the 1930s it was no light matter for a man of Kolbe’s influence and stature to endorse the Protocols of the Elders of Zion or to indulge in the kind of language about “cruel cliques” and so forth which Messrs. Schlafly and Green quote; nor, of course, was it only a question of Kolbe’s own writings, but also of the general tenor of the publications which he founded and superintended. At a time of feverish anti-Semitism, hostile images of Jews, whether intended for purely theological consumption or not, were only too liable to get translated into “social, political, or economic activism,” often of the most brutal kind. (An excellent recent account of the plight of Polish Jewry during the years in question can be found in Celia Heller’s On the Edge of Destruction: Jews of Poland Between the Two World Wars, Columbia University Press, 1977.)

    The Church was the one major institution in the Poland of the period potentially equipped to hold at bay the spread of anti-Semitic forces, but its actual record in this respect is, alas, far from exemplary—it is perhaps enough to cite Cardinal Hlond’s notorious pastoral letter of 1936. To his credit Father Kolbe distanced himself, as Schlafly and Green point out, from an ultra-extremist like Trzesiak, but it is also worth recalling that there were a number of distinguished Poles—although he was not among them—who took a firm public stand against anti-Semitism at this time. (Some of their names are listed in Celia Heller’s book.)

    Messrs. Schlafly and Green are, I think, unfair when they run together my comments on Father Kolbe with those of the newspaper which described him as a “rabid racist.” In fact I tried to make it clear that he always regarded conversion to Christianity as the highest aim, a view which is needless to say incompatible with racism, at any rate racism of the full-blown pseudo-scientific variety. On the other hand I feel in retrospect that I ought to have said something about the Jews who were sheltered in Niepokalanow in 1939-1940. I was irritated by Patricia Treece singling out this episode, while omitting so much else about Kolbe’s attitude to the Jews (and glossing over the question of Polish-Jewish relations generally); but I should have mentioned it nonetheless.
     
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  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Pope Benedict refused to visit Vad Veshem, the Jewish Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem, until a prominent exhibit grossly insulting and slandering Pope Pius xii and Catholics everywhere was removed. It was removed before his visit

    https://insidethevatican.com/magazine/culture/yad-vashem-and-pius-xii/

    Recently Orthodox Jews have taken up the habit of spitting on Christian pilgrims in Jerusalem , especially on Catholic priests, nuns and religious.

     
  4. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    https://www.jta.org/archive/scholars-reject-charge-st-maximilian-was-anti-semitic

    Scholars Reject Charge St. Maximilian Was Anti-semitic
    Allegations that the recently canonized St. Maximilian Kolbe was anti-Semitic have brought several scholars to the new saint’s defense.

    St. Maximilian, a Polish Conventual Franciscan priest who volunteered to die in another man’s place at the Nazi concentration camp of Auschwitz in 1941, was formally declared a saint and a martyr by Pope John Paul II in ceremonies at the Vatican Oct. 10. In December columnist Richard Cohen, who writes for The Washington Post and other newspapers, said that in Father Kolbe’s canonization the priest’s anti-Semitism “was swept under the carpet” and the church treated it “as a negligible blemish in an otherwise admirable life.”

    Cohen quoted two statements from Father Kolbe’s writings which referred to the spread of communism as port of a Masonic conspiracy by Zionists to take over the world.

    In a letter to the Post, Eugene Fisher, executive secretary of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Secretariat for Catholic-Jewish Relations, said the documentary record of Father Kolbe’s writings and actions belies the charge of anti-Semitism. He cited writings in which Father Kolbe repudiated anti-Semitism, and he noted that an estimated 1,500-2,000 Jewish refugees were harbored at the beginning of World War 11 in the monastery Father Kolbe founded and headed in Poland.

    Fisher traced the allegations of anti-Semitism to an article last April in a leading Austrian paper, Wiener Tagebuch (Vienna Journal), but said American scholars had analyzed the article and rejected its conclusions last summer. The priest, said Fisher, “should be not a point of division but a symbol of unity among all who would oppose the evil of anti-Semitism today.” The Wiener Tagebuch article had said that Father Kolbe was associated with “rabid, racist anti-Semitism” and that he himself was anti-Semitic.

    When the assertions were reported in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch last June, Daniel L. Schlafly Jr., associate professor of history at St. Louis University, and Warren Green, director of the St. Louis Center for Holocaust Studies, issued a joint statement labeling the charges “false.”

    “Father Kolbe’s writings do contain a few references to Jews which reflect the common anti-Semitic beliefs propagated in the ‘Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, which was a well-known forgery, as well as reflected in the popular Polish-Catholic culture in the interwar period.” They added:

    “These references were only a tiny fraction of the total works (of Father Kolbe) and were more than counterbalanced by his insistence that one must always act in a spirit of missionary zeal, charity and prudence,” Green and Schlafly said.
     
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  5. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Kolbe probably held the classical Catholic position that the Jews rejected the Logos and therefore became anti-Logos opposing all that the Catholic Church stands for, and are engaged permanent revolution against Logos (Christ).

    It is what E Michael Jones christened the 'Jewish revolutionary spirit' - Jones contends that Judaism under the rabbinic schools and the Talmud since 70 A.D. is significantly different from the revealed religion of the patriarchs and Moses. They are not creatures of the Torah, which is the Word of God but of the Talmud. This Jewish revolutionary spirt has had input into Socialism, Communism, Zionism and even neo-Conservatism in the USA. He provides detailed evidence of Jewish involvement in undermining Christian morality through promotion of abortion, pornography, same-sex marriage and the peddling of promiscuity.

    Of course his book 'The Jewish revolutionary Spirit' is not available anymore on the Amazon platform due to sensitivities about anti-semitism.
     
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  6. AED

    AED Powers

    This is a tough one Brian. I would never contradict St Maximilian Kolbe. And he was "boots on the ground" so to speak. I am well aware that the Bolsheviks were almost all Jewish. Marx certainly was. Russia was filled with angry young Jewish radicals in the early 20th century. The Franklin Institute that perpetrated cultural Marxism was by and large Jewish.. Ben Shapiro's comments to Joe Rogan about Jesus very recently horrified me. A crisis such as this peels away the thin veneer of tolerance doesn't it? I don't know what to say. Do we condemn a whole people because of the bad actors? That way leads to the horrors we saw in Nazi Germany. I just think these are very dangerous times we are in--spiritual and physical. Inflamed rhetoric on either side troubles me. Youve given me a lot to think about.
     
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  7. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    The ADL et al have successfully and viciously branded ANY criticism of modern Talmudic Jewish or Zionist or Israeli thought and practice as troglodyte antisemitism. Jewish defenders always seem to overplay their hand.

    This ironically reinforces the belief that there might be something more to the types of literature like the Protocols than it being a simple hoax.
     
  8. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes E. Michael Jones is frowned upon in many Catholic circles let alone the worldly literati. You are right about the classical Catholic position. Pre VII. I think the murder of Jews by the Nazis jolted Catholics out of that point of view. And not just Catholics.
     
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  9. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    E. Michael Jones makes a strong historical case.

    Yet he has been effectively branded antisemitic too and thoroughly discredited.

    To the point fellow Catholic scholars won’t share a conference stage with him, as happened earlier this year with Patrick Coffin’s conference. Good Catholics were roundly denouncing him as an antisemite and Coffin for not informing them he would be present at the same conference at which they were invited to speak.

    Is E. Michael Jones an antisemite? Certainly, based on some of his comments since the kerfuffle at least, one could make a good case.

    But those subsequent comments themselves were in response to what he was convinced were baseless scurrilous attacks, which produced a less than charitable response from him.

    (My problem with him is he seems a prideful ass when confronted.)

    Universal diabolical disorientation.
     
  10. Ananchal

    Ananchal Vigilans

    Even my atheist friend loved this comment Brian! :ROFLMAO:
     
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  11. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    Stating the facts is not hate. We are all Catholics here, as such we do not hate anyone. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't state the obvious...
    The Catholic Church and the Jews have not been on good terms for centuries, there are a bunch of saints throughout history who claimed the same thing as Saint Kolbe.



    "We order all our brother bishops absolutely to suppress the blasphemy of Jews in your dioceses, churches, and communities, so that they do not dare raise their necks, bent under eternal slavery, to revile the Redeemer."
    -- Pope Gregory IX.

    "It is known that the Jewish people are polluted with wickedness, blasphemy, and the shedding of the blood of Jesus Christ so that their wickedness has no limit."
    -- St. Felix of Toledo


    Whether the source of this is their rejection of Christ, rebellion against God or perhaps "punishment" we do not know. However, we see that they are really advocates of everything that goes against God's rules and laws. From the context of Europe, I can say that numerous countries that accepted them in order to help them and hide them from the Nazis, later became the same advocates of large migrations and liberalization of those countries. Feel free to look at the example of Sweden, which had religious education in schools, an extremely advanced country with good manners. She became a hostage of frequent attacks, rape of women, perversions of various kinds and migrants who fight each other in the streets ...
    The main proponent of this was David Schwarz, who fled from Poland to Sweden from the Nazis.

    "The process that transformed Sweden from striving for cultural homogeneity to becoming multicultural was extremely fast. It began with Schwarz's debate post in Dagens Nyheter in 1964 and continued in the subsequent newspaper debates where mainly members from various minority groups, especially Jews, demanded the introduction of multiculturalism. "


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  12. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Much of what Xavier has posted is accurate. Perhaps all of it. I don't know because I haven't read all Xavier's posts. It comes across as anti-semitic because there's so much of it on one thread. What should matter is whether or not it is accurate. What should matter most is that even if all of it is accurate and even if it were ten times worse, our Catholic faith forbids us from wishing vengeance or evil on any person or group of people. Sadly, these days when any careless remark which could in any way be seen as even mild criticism of a Jewish person or group leaves us open to charges of anti-semitism. At the same time, an Israeli politician can refer to Palestinians as human animals without fear of censure.

    When the prevailing powers want Muslim support, they would have us believe that Muslims are victims and how dare anyone mention that ISIS are Muslim. Now that Israel is committing war crimes against the Palestinians, it's open season on Palestinian Muslims. The Christian in the Church Militant video posted on this thread would be in a very dicey position had he made the same remarks about Muslims or Islam in any context other than justifying Israel's actions in Palestine. He also didn't give the whole picture leading up to the foundation of the State of Israel. There's a difference between a "Jewish Homeland" and an independent State named Israel. I suspect that the mess we have now is the result of Zionist influence in the US which led to pressure on the British. The Brits tend to get the blame but I don't think the fault was all theirs. Czarist Russia was also meant to have a say in what happened to former Ottoman lands but the Bolshevik revolution kind of queered the pitch, which makes some of Xavier's posts more interesting. It's disappointing that Michael Voris would permit such wholehearted support of Zionism. If nothing else, lauding President Truman for his prompt recognition of Israel should have sounded a warning bell for the Church Militant people. Truman was a Mason.

    Israel sowed the wind with their support of Hamas. Innocent Israelis who probably knew nothing about what their government had done are the victims of the whirlwind. Similarly, innocent Palestinians are reaping the whirlwind of the wind sown by duplicitous Hamas.

    I don't doubt for a minute that many Jews didn't support turning Gaza into a concentration camp. Unfortunately, the leaders of the apple of God's eye seem destined to keep on sowing the wind and reaping the whirlwind until the last days. Events that change the world don't happen in a vacuum.
     
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  13. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    I agree as well, the post disturbed my peace. There is such a thing as information overload, and in my opinion it was totally unnecessary even if the intent was to make a point. No one who comes to MOG needs to see anything like this and it serves no purpose other than to offend. :(
     
  14. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    Matt Walsh: "
    If Charlie Kirk is anti-Semitic then everyone is anti-Semitic and the term has no meaning. It is an absurd, baseless attack. A classic leftist tactic of simply labeling someone rather than engaging with their arguments."

    https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1713982796589580474
     
  15. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    I agree and deleted but remember this: Ukrainian president Zelensky has asked abramovic to be a Ukranian ambassador to rebuild schools.
     
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  16. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    Regarding the ADL, here is Conservapedia document its support for (1) Separation of Church and (2) Partial Birth Abortion etc: "Its general stance on prayer in secular schools is that it is "unconstitutional."[2] The ADL also has a record of supporting gay rights, the separation of church and state,[3] hate crimes legislation, abortion and partial-birth abortion.[4] There is also evidence to suggest that the founders may have been Fabian socialists.[5]

    Next, Rules for Thee, but not for me. Separation of Church and State is already Heretical and condemned by Saintly Pope Bl. Pius IX. Yet, what they actually want, is a Union of Synagogue and State - in Christian Majority Countries! - to persecute Christians under various false pretexts.

    "The League has been criticized for attacking politically conservative Jews such as Dr. Laura Schlessinger.[7] The Jewish World Review stated that the League was "demonizing exponents of Jewish values",[8] while the National Prayer Network held that the ADL's past legislative involvement "empowered synagogue to mix with state by authorizing itself to teach the US Justice Department, FBI and all local police about hate crimes."[9]"

    Here's the link: https://www.conservapedia.com/Anti-Defamation_League

    This is why the FBI targets Catholics, including Traditional Catholics, and other Pro-Lifers, which Governor DeSantis and others rightly condemned.

    I think it was Andrew Torba who said: "You can either help fight against the destruction of Christian Western Civilization and be falsely called a Racist and Anti-Semite, or you can fully co-operate with it, and be falsely called a Racist and Anti-Semite anyway by the Left". Clear Choice.

    Opposing Prayer in Schools is also Demonic. I love everyone and don't have a genuinely anti-semitic bone in my body. What I am is anti-Talmudic.

    Let's not allow anyone to Gaslight us with False Accusations as Matt Walsh rightly points out above. We Catholic Christians love all Jewish people, as we love all people, but we have every right to critique and shine the Light on the darkness of Talmudic Judaism and criticize Radical Left Wing Behavior like promoting Partial Birth Abortions. There are many Conservative, Devout, Pious Jews who love God and oppose these things. It is Radical Left-Wing behavior we are criticizing, and nothing else. Everyone is entitled to a presumption of goodness and innocence until they promote Abortions etc.
     
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  17. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    Marina? :eek:
     
  18. Ananchal

    Ananchal Vigilans

    I shouldnt post this because I don’t remember the source or the exact wording - and I wish I could find (or even remember) where I read or heard an Israeli (I think it was a member of the government) on the news over the weekend after the attack BUT he said “God has over the Jewish history has sometimes hit the Jewish people hard in teaching us a lesson and this time He (God) has hit us harder than ever before.”

    It has stuck in my limited memory and I wonder what God was trying to say to the Jewish people.
     
  19. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    With respect, Xavier, I think you're pushing the limits when you say that what they want is a union between Synagogue and State. I didn't read past that sentence. Jewish apostates, like Catholic apostates, want God removed from the public square. I'm pretty sure that practicing Jews don't support abortion or the rest of the anti-family agenda.
     
  20. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    Practicing Jews, sure. Devout, Conservative Jews, yes. I said as much and the continuation of the Conservapedia article I quoted also said it. Let me requote it here: ""The League has been criticized for attacking politically conservative Jews such as Dr. Laura Schlessinger.[7] The Jewish World Review stated that the League was "demonizing exponents of Jewish values"

    So the ADL attacked politically conservative Jews, and the Jewish World Review, no less, said it was demonizing exponents of authentically Jewish values.

    Left Wing Radical Jewish Organizations like the ADL, no. People are known by their works and their fruits. Promoting Partial Birth Abortions is not Conservative Torah Judaism.

    Let me post something that is from Torah Judaism here: https://twitter.com/TorahJudaism/status/1713431605476298786

    "Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss of Neturei Karta International has a brief message. "Killing, stealing, occupying others land or repressing an entire people is totally forbidden in Jewish Religion." Israel is a Zionist state. Being Zionist and anti-Israeli doesn't make you anti-Semitic. The Zionists use the Jewish religion for their own benefit. Judaism is not Zionism." https://twitter.com/TorahJudaism/status/1713431605476298786

    This Devout Conservative Jewish Rabbi gets it. It will be after their acceptance of Jesus Christ that Jesus Christ miraculously takes such devout Jews back to Jerusalem, and then the Word of the Lord shall go forth again from Jerusalem, as the Bible prophecies says, as it was in days long ago etc.
     

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