"Israel is preparing to Commit Genocide"

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Xavier, Oct 14, 2023.

  1. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I meant that they essentially have this right and that the violation of this by the state of Israel is illegal and this goes back to what I already said about us having the right to criticize both the West and the East when it comes to the persecution of Christians because the church is above that.
     
  2. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Did anyone stop you opening a thread about Iran? The title of this thread is: "Israel is preparing to Commit Genocide" and the topic is what's happening in Palestine, yet most of your posts on the thread are about Iran.
     
  3. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    because I published a news story a few days ago about a threat that the second commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guard made to attack the Israeli city of Haifa (a model of peaceful coexistence between Jewish Muslims, Christians and Bahai's). This motivated another user to insinuate that this simple post demonstrated some kind of hatred for Iran, which is simply absurd; because in addition to the danger of the inestimable loss of human life there is the risk of destruction of the world center of Carmelite spirituality. And as throughout the posts insinuations were made that any criticism of Iran means supporting the West; I felt obliged to clarify things because, even though I am a Christian, I am not obligated to put up with insults. Also, I don't remember being on this thread accusing someone for simply posting negative news about Israel.
     
  4. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Furthermore, there is a risk of an escalation in the current conflict that could lead Israel and Iran to a direct war.
     
  5. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I am not obliged to believe that the mistakes of the West and Israel prevent me from criticizing Iran and other countries that persecute Christians. Only that!!!
     
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  6. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Only because he stopped and repented.
     
  7. Ananchal

    Ananchal Vigilans

    I was commenting to the word in the posting that said “never”. I was not trying to interject myself into the political discussion.

    St. Paul received an interruption in his life of miraculous grace. If I understand the warning correctly He has something similarly planned for the world.
     
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  8. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    yes, but the context of what I said about a persecutor of the Church never being saved applies only to those who do not convert before death. In fact, the story of St.Paul's conversion is very interesting for several reasons, but one that particularly catches my attention is that he had a mystical experience that remodeled his entire heart. The supernatural light he saw on the way to Damascus reminds me of the mystical experience many monks have on Mount Athos of seeing the uncreated light of God. During the warning the mystical experience will be transformative for many people around the world.
     
  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

  10. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    The forum is only a small part of the public discussion, almost non-existent... What we have in the west is the illusion of justice through the freedom to say something even though we have no possibility of regulating this evil...

    Was Obama punished because he attacked Libya and Syria without grounds and caused the death of hundreds of thousands of people? Was Bush punished because he caused the death of millions of people in Iraq, Tony Blair too? These people get Nobel Peace Prizes for their evils and mock us with our "freedom of speech".

    They can steal elections, they can let millions of migrants into Western countries, they can introduce
    the laws of Sodom, they can indoctrinate children and they do it little by little...Politicians are appointed at closed Masonic meetings, they go to Epstein's Island, Davos... and make future plans there. Everything else is done by the controlled media...Step by step they realize their plans, the voice of the people has long been played out.

    Religious freedoms were not allowed in Christian Europe for over a thousand years. We had a bunch of holy European kings who implemented such policies...
    Another thing, Iran does not persecute Christians because they have been living there for thousands of years and are one of the oldest Christian communities. They even have guaranteed representatives in parliament as a Christian minority. They have their own churches, schools according to their own program... I'm talking about Armenian Orthodox Church. What is forbidden not only in Iran, but in all Muslim countries is evangelism. Islam is related to politics, which means that by attacking Islam, you are actually destroying the political order of that country. It is not an attack on religion, but on the state if you promote other religions.

    My goal was not to show superiority out of arrogance, but to say that I can understand some things better than those who have not gone through it. Communism differs from country to country, somewhere it was a solid Marxist system, somewhere it was a socialist but milder version (for example, private property was allowed to a lesser extent), while some communist countries were in Islamic countries and religion was not persecuted and actively participated without any problems.

    However, communism, regardless of the persecutions and murders, could not destroy the Catholic Church, there were more and more priestly vocations, people went to church, Christmas was celebrated at home, children attended religious education, even the communists did not curse God...
    The reason why communism failed is because they came to power through the military and did not change the mentality of the people and the culture of the environment. The communism that is happening in the west is much more dangerous than the original...

    The communists in the west have realized that people will not accept communism in any form because it entraps man while God gives freedom, so first you have to change man and his way of thinking.

    You have to destroy the identity, what he believes in and who he relies on. To destroy his morals, to lower him to the level of an animal, and not to possess the divine value that the Church promotes, and to distance him from any tradition and history. Cultural Marxism, which appeared in the West, destroys primarily the nuclear family, encourages discord between men and women, divorces, abortions, indoctrination of children, loss of identity and hatred for the homeland and religion, sexualization of children and society, loss of moral values...
    Once you create such a man without faith in God who bases his life on fleeting pleasures, hedonism and distorted values, you got a man who is ready to betray anything, even his family, to keep those pleasures and privileges. That's what communism is looking for, worthless people who will serve the system, cowards and spineless people.

    In communist countries, Christian values are most often acquired in the family, as well as morals. Christians learned under communism that the rulers should not be trusted, while in the West the situation is reversed. Education most often happens through TV screens, in schools and through the media. Because of this, societies are collapsing, turning to materialism and hedonism.
    Just look at the countries that came out of communism like Poland, Croatia, Slovakia...Churches are full, young people and families go to mass, values and morals are respected. On the other hand, look at Ireland, which has gone from a country devoted to God within 20 years to a country that votes with the majority for abortion, LGBT marriages and similar things...
    This is on the lines of what Jesus said, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, but those who kill the soul and the body. And that's the difference.

    Finally, let me summarize what I was saying. I absolutely condemn the actions of the Iranian and Chinese governments not only towards Christians, but towards all people and I sincerely wish them all conversion and finding the real and true God whom we celebrate because that is the only true freedom and peace...

    However, I wanted to say that currently China and Iran are far less dangerous on a wider foreign policy level, they bring less destruction and wars, less death, less persecution and represent less danger than the Western policy that primarily persecutes God through man. Most of the wars in the Middle East were started by the West, the greatest degeneration of man is currently brought about by Western values, currently the greatest killings of civilians, especially children, are supported by the West while cutting off water, food, electricity, medicine to the civilian population, which is truly a mortal sin...
     
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  11. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I already told you before that the West does not have the morality to criticize Iran and China, however Christians who see the church being persecuted have the full right to denounce this.
     
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  12. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    I honestly think that America, like the Western countries, has been robbed of the people and that they are implementing a "masonic" policy aimed at one world communism. I really have the best opinion of the Americans and the only thing standing between us and the realization of the NWO is your 2nd amendment which protects us on a world level because America must fall first before they can establish their order. Once you hand over your weapons, which happened in my country, you can very quickly expect slaughter, a totalitarian state and the arrival of communism without a mask like now, even though the vast majority of your politicians are totalitarians who no longer hide it...

    I wish everyone here on the forum the best, I think that turbulent years await us not only in politics, wars, but primarily in events in the Church.

    Only God can pull us out of this chaos, no one else
     
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  13. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    evangelism is the word of Christ being taken to every creature; an evangelist is a bearer of Christ when he carries the message of the gospel, which is why when Christ appeared to Saul he questioned why the future apostle was persecuting him. You can't justify the persecution of Christians in Iran because that would be like justifying abortion depending on the cultural context. What it seems to me is that you have a left-wing ideological vision and want to implement it in the minds of people on this forum even if it clashes with gospel values.
     
  14. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Just because Christians have lived in Iran for thousands of years does not mean they are not persecuted. There is an ancient tradition of the Church that says that the blood of martyrs produces the flowering of new conversions. Just as Roman persecution only made Christianity grow.
     
  15. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    my response to this long text is that simply no ideological vision from the left or right can nullify what our lady warned us in Fátima. She appeared in 1917 in Russia to warn of the rise of communism; its global attack on faith but also the degeneration of the Western world. There is no context that justifies alleviating the persecution of Christians in any country. I have lost count of how many times I have said that the errors of the West have no influence whatsoever on the Church's legitimate authority to denounce evil. All leaders who persecute the church and the gospel are Satan's puppets.
     
  16. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I completely agree with you on this.
     
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  17. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Communism and Islam kill the body and soul because Islam, in addition to persecuting the church, was condemned as a heresy by the Church. Communism was condemned as a political system incompatible with faith in such a way that the authority of the Church uses the prerogative of excommunication for those who join communist political parties.
     
  18. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I think neither side in the war gets a signed power of attorney from God allowing them to break His law however they want. This makes Israel and Arab nations comparable at times and also serves to condemn the persecution of Christians in different cultural contexts and times.
     
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  19. SteveD

    SteveD Powers

    Russia and Turkey bombing Palestinian refugee camps in Syria - and we are not told because it would confuse the narrative of Israel and US are evil warmongers and everyone else (including Iran) is longing for peace.

    (1) People in Britain have no idea at all what is happening in Gaza and Israel… - YouTube


    QUIZ - Can anyone name a Palestinian leader prior to Yasser Arafat (died 2004). No? That's because he INVENTED Palestine as a nation in the 1960's. Hamas are happy to acknowledge that they are not a national movement but a religious one.
     
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