Is Francis a Pope or a Pretender?

Discussion in 'Pope Francis' started by BrianK, Nov 16, 2023.

  1. AED

    AED Powers

    AGREE.
     
  2. AED

    AED Powers

    What a beautiful post. Truth in every word. Let go and let God is a bit of a cliche but its simply true even if overused. Jesus told us this--sufficient unto the day is the trouble thereof. We have to live these precious moments given to us. Being thankful and grateful. As evil intensifies the Light of Christ does shine brighter--peeling away the world's masks. It is all in God's Hands.
     
  3. SteveD

    SteveD Powers

    I have always harboured doubts about the legitimacy of the last papal election because the St. Gallen 'mafia' have been very open about their plotting which was in total contravention of the rules laid down by St. Join Paul II regarding papal elections However consider this, Carlo Acutis' mother claims that her son told her in a dream shortly after his death that he would be beatified and a short while after that he would be canonised. The initial part of this prophesy is fulfilled and the canonisation is approved for some time next year. Now, a decree of canonisation can only be approved by a valid Pope so, if Francis' issues the decree, I would accept the validity of his election, if he is not the Pope who issues the decree, I will still be in doubt about his status but will have no doubt about that of a successor who actually does issues the decree.
     
  4. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    He is valid. But not a sound teacher he leaves everyone confused. Not one person on our planet could ever hope to understand this Pope.

    An ambiguous council has given us an ambiguous Pope.

    Hence confusion reigns.
     
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  5. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The spirit of Vatican II has entered the Church. It is not the Holy Spirit but the smoke of satan.
     
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  6. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    What is the spirit of Vatican II?

    Ambiguity and confusion.
     
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  7. RoryRory

    RoryRory Perseverance

    Awesome post.
     
  8. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    It seems the original proposals for discussion in Vatican II were abruptly replaced by completely different ones. It smells. The whole episode resembles a bait-and-switch. A clerical coup d'etat. As most ordinary Catholics of the time, and of much of the time that followed, trusted the authority of the clerics, the perpetrators managed to get away with it. Not much trust or authority now remains. The latter is both a good and bad thing. It is well to know that blind obedience is unwise; but we are badly in need of Good Authority.
     
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  9. HeavenlyHosts

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  10. Malachi

    Malachi Powers

    The ambiguity is bad enough but the other as deadly if not more so danger isthe ambivalence all this madness is causing. People losing heart. Not knowing what to feel. Mixed emotions. Losing fervour.
     
  11. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    When a pope dies in the middle of an ordinary jubilee like the one that will occur next year, is the entire schedule of the event's celebrations altered? I see that there is a certain prophetic expectation for May 2026 because of Saint John Bosco's prophecy about the full moons in the month of flowers.
     
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  12. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    The expected date for the conclusion of the jubilee is December 28, 2025. I wondered if 2026 could be a prophetic milestone, based on the prophecy of Saint John Bosco, with the jubilee being part of it.
     
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  13. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Well, Carlos Acutis’ mother said, that after Carlos’ canonization comes the Warning soon after.
     
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  14. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    Did she say this? Did she say that Carlo said he will be canonised? Is there a source that goes back to the time that she said that? It sounds highly interesting! Being a prophecy buff, I am keen to see a source.
     
  15. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    When I searched for the source of this prophecy I could not find the origin of where she is directly quoted. Fr. Blount apparently knew of this prophecy before it was announced that Blessed Carlos would be canonized, but seemingly after he became a blessed. Fr. Blount said the prophecy occured when Blessed Carlos was a venerable. It appears to be hearsay, or at least kept on the down low. I also have not seen anything where the Mother of Blessed Carlos has refuted this prophecy.

    I have not heard anything saying the warning comes after his canonization, which could be true. Only that "God Almighty will fulfill all prophecy"(Daniel 9:24), "send the Holy Spirit over the face of the earth" (Psalm 103:30 DR, Acts 2:17). These are massive prophecies if true, and with the way things are lining up I am inclined to believe they very well could be. Start at the 12 minute mark.
     
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  16. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    Ok, thank you very much. I have to say I am bit skeptical about Fr. Blount. But I do thank you muchly.
     
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  17. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    I found this, so know the origin isn't Fr. Blount.

    "And in the fourth apparition in 2010, Antonia was praying in a chapel in Assisi when she saw St. Francis who told her, “Carlo will be blessed.”

    And he added, "When your son Carlo is canonized, Almighty God will fulfill every prophecy and send the Holy Spirit upon the face of the Earth and touch every teenager in the world with sanctifying grace."

    https://forosdelavirgen.org/profecias-carlo-acutis/
     
  18. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    That would be something. Think of the pathetic, ageing hippy clergy who think that they are 'cool' and 'trendy' among young people facing a directly Christ-evangelised teenager population telling them where to go with their guitars, folk masses, irreverence and casualness. Think of the equivalent of the Chartres procession, but all over the world. Think of the likes of Pope Francis, if God has spared him, condemning them for their 'rigidity' and 'backwardness'.
     
  19. Philothea

    Philothea Archangels

    I know everyone's attention will be on the US election but let's take a moment to look up at the stars.

    I found it fascinating and am surprised more people aren't talking about it.
    For your discernment-

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/analys...ak-of-our-lady-of-guadalupe/?origin=serp_auto

    An Italian astronomer believes he has discovered a symbolic list of the popes elected from 1534 to 2005 in the famous image of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

    Alessandro Massano, a Catholic at the Alpette Astronomical Observatory and Planetarium in Turin, Italy, appeared this month on the Codice Ratzinger (“Ratzinger Code”) podcast hosted by journalist Andrea Cionci to discuss his extraordinary findings.

    Massano has discovered both that the number of stars that appear on Our Lady’s mantle on St. Juan Diego’s tilma (cactus fiber cloak) corresponds to the number of popes after Clement VII, pontiff when Our Lady of Guadalupe appeared in 1531, to Benedict XVI (46), but the number of stars in each constellation also corresponds to the number of times a pontiff chose a particular name.

    The podcast has been posted to YouTube with English subtitles to make the discovery of this apparent prophecy known internationally.

    Astronomer Mario Rojas Sanchez had earlier discovered that the constellations on Our Lady of Guadalupe’s mantle are arranged exactly as they were in the sky on December 12, 1531, when her image appeared on St. Juan Diego’s tilma. However, not all the stars of each constellation are represented on the cloak.

    Only one star from each the four constellations Hydra, Canis Minor, Draco, and Coma Berenices appear on the cloak, and only four popes between 1531 and 2005 chose a name no other pope would choose after him: Julius (III), John (XXIII), Sixtus (V) and Marcellus (II).

    Only two stars appear from each of the three constellations Lupus, Canes Venatici, and Auriga, and there were two Urbans (VII, VIII), two Alexanders (VII, VIII), and two John Pauls among the popes from 1531 to 2013.

    Three stars appear from the constellation Taurus, and only one papal name was chosen three times after 1531: Leo (XI-XIII).

    Four stars appear from three constellations, Ophiuchus, Bootes, and Crux, and three papal names were picked four times after 1531: Gregory (XIII-XVI), Paul (III-VI), and Benedict (XIII -XVI).

    Five stars appear from Centaurus, and one papal name was chosen five times after 1531: Innocent (IX-XIII).

    Seven stars appear from Scorpio, and the name Clement was chosen by seven popes who succeeded Clement VII (VIII-XIV).

    Nine stars appear from Ursa Major, and nine popes between 1531 and 2005 chose the name Pius.

    “So there is a perfect correspondence in number between stars present on Our Lady’s mantle and the number of names chosen by the popes,” Massano told his host.

    The astronomer marveled at the enormous improbability of such a thing happening, saying that “this is a far more unlikely event than winning the lottery.”

    Massano likened the list of stars to one rail of a train track and the list of the popes from Clement VII to Benedict XVI to the other rail, and said he is simply putting “the sleepers underneath.”

    The significance of the 46 stars and the 46 popes has serious implications for the questions of the legitimacy of both the Roncallian (John XXIII) and Bergoglian (Francis) papacies. In short, the astronomer believes that the starry mantle shows that John XXIII was a legitimate pope, but Pope Francis is not.

    “For me, this (message from Our Lady of Guadalupe’s mantle) is a train track,” Massano said. “It is a real message in which, the first thing, (Pope) Francis was delegitimized 500 years ago, while John XXIII is legitimized, the same John that some believe could not have been a legitimate pope because a certain Gregory XVII was forced not to accept his election.”

    Andrea Cionci is a Roman journalist and author of the 2023 book The Ratzinger Code, which has sold more than 20,000 copies and has been translated into at least five languages. He believes that Benedict XVI was forced out of the papacy by “globalist strong powers linked to international freemasonry,” that he faked his resignation, and that Pope Francis is not a legitimate pope.



     
  20. AED

    AED Powers

    Fascinating.
     
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