Adult material; I'm asking for everyone to be tasteful on this thread, as all members most often are. Also, this is not meant to really be a debate, especially on mechanics or specifics. I most importantly was trying to create awareness and clarity, basically sounding the bells. Yesterday, I saw a youtube post which presents St. Catherine of Sienna's vision of purgatory. Mother Mary tells her that the punishment for married wrongful sexual acts are harsh. Mary tells her only face-to-face activity is properly ordered. In marriage prep, I was taught Christopher West's interpretation that anything goes as long as the husband ends in the proper receptacle. So I was confused by this vision. Then in the comments of this youtube post, I was referred to a link of a priest's article which quotes St Thomas Aquinas and St. Alphonsus Liguori who explain sodomic acts are wrong no matter how they are finished. https://www.padreperegrino.org/2026/03/samb/ It's a concern for me that West's teachings were being taught in my marriage prep class and have deceived so many couples into grave sin!
It is a grave concern. And has affected so many Catholic couple's. Pope JPII's Theology of the Body played into that.
I'm unaware of all of West's presentations, and though familiar with Theology of the Body, don't recall JPII delving into this detailed realm, but I would agree all sodomic acts are immoral.
Yes, West worked JP2'S teachings into his own conclusions, but I wouldn't say it was the cause if West's heresies.
Yes, I also think West's opinion is incorrect. Anything goes as long as the final moment is good? Of course not! The marriage bed should not be defiled. Modernist and even heretical opinions have tainted the Holy Catholic Church's teachings, including RCIA and marriage preparation courses. It's diabolical disorientation. To remedy this, I recommend going to RCIA or marriage preparation or Cathecism classes in a traditional Catholic parish, such as SSPX or FSSP. Extensive clarification on the subject of making love in marriage is provided in the book "The Catholic marriage bed" by Ronald Conte. This book is lengthy and repetitive, but it does have a summary chapter and contains the truth. Basically, spouses should love each other in a way that keeps the act sacred, instead of using the other's body like that of a whore. This does not limit the couple to face-to-face acts, but acts of sodomy are always sinful. More details are in the book. I hope this helps. God bless!
