Ireland has fallen

Discussion in 'Ireland' started by AidanK, Feb 24, 2018.

  1. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    This was revealed to Pope Leo XIII, but we know he was also told that this control would be limited to 100 years. Given all that has happened in the world since this revelation, it seems reasonable to hope that this terrible century must be nearing its end, lest even the Elect be deceived.

    May the Lord God have mercy on us all.
     
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  2. DeGaulle

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    Interesting to read of a discussion of various religious orders. I've been following an interesting discussion on the Orthosphere (a secular, but very orthodox site) about some reasons for the monastic tradition. While the primary purpose of monks was unquestionably the coming together of holy men to live in community for the glory of God, as the tradition grew, it was considered by the Church in her wisdom to be a means of providing a way of life for many men, and many women who entered the nunneries, as an alternative to lives of sin, disrepute and dysfunction. Being so wise in the frailties of human nature, the Church realised the necessity of severe discipline for these people. Hence the strict rules and the discouragement of 'special friendships'. We know what happened with the relaxation of the rules. Now, with the collapse of the monastic tradition, even those whom it might suit that remain as believers are left 'going wild', with the lack of needed discipline leading to the social chaos we see all around us. The unpleasant, and currently utterly suppressed truth, is that many if not most human beings need severe discipline for their own good. This is the only way they can achieve real freedom, because it is only through discipline that one can achieve the state of awareness required to make real choices.
     
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  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes.

    The phrase ,Going to hell in a basket' springs to mind

    Not so much walking to hell but racing there at warp speed.
     
  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    But we must not loose heart because of the many scandals. We are not cmgiing to be condemned to the Eternal Fires for others sin. We make our own choices; they make theirs
     
  5. Patrick8747

    Patrick8747 Guest

    Padraig if we are complicit or quiet while others sin we will be juged harshly especially the more serious ones. Say there's predators in your schools churches and clergy we are complicit for not speaking up. The amount of predator Irish priest and clergy is gross. Years ago people spoke up now everyone is complicit. If I told you how many times priest and religious made passes on me you'd be horrified most being of Irish descent. there's a lawyer in Boston that should be praised for coming down hard on these priest. The lawyer was garabedian he will have a high throne in heaven for exposing these disordered priests he barely leaves the court room. Saints call it out self righteous sinners watch.
     
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  6. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Of course.
     
  7. Pax Prima

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    They have returned, the gods of old.
    Once brilliant, our faith grown cold.
    Pleasure and profit, these liberate, so we are told.
    Don't mind the other, keep consuming, so we are bold.
    Never mind the cost, yet our souls sold.
    Mom calls to pray, or pain foretold.
    Go on your way!, we choose fool's gold!
    So here we are, gone from the fold.
    Now comes the pain, devil takes hold.

    Don't know why but your post inspired this. Hopefully my horrible attempt at poetry doesn't offend anyone.
     
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  8. Clare A

    Clare A Powers

    I came here to comment on Eurovision but you all beat me to it. As a family we used to watch it together with chips and dips and fun food just to laugh at the music and Terry Wogan’s comments. Even now we have WhatsApp open to chat remotely.

    So sad that for a while it hasn’t been suitable family viewing. Last night had some good songs but the whole thing was a freak show and the UK made me ashamed with a rent boy act.

    I cannot see how Ireland could have entered such a horrible act. My eldest daughter says she was so upset she will never watch Eurovision again. How can this be normalised? The young woman Bambie is clearly lost and in a very dark place. The UK gave her 10 points. Israel had a very good song by a young girl in a dress that was far more modest than most of the others. The programme was mostly like a Pride festival. Just sickening. Not family viewing anymore
     
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  9. padraig

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    The devil seems to have particularly taken over certain areas which he regarded as important. The media. The Universities.Hollywood. Politicians. The extremely wealthy. The Vatican and so on. I suspect ordinary people are naturally more conservative but when it keeps getting pumped into their brains 27/7 it becomes normalised.

    With older people it may be more difficult. With people who truly pray, impossible.

    But so few really pray.
     
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  10. padraig

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    A lot of things these people do goes against the Natural Law. So when people see others doing these things they are naturally disgusted. This is a hard instinct to erase out of people.
     
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  11. maryrose

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    Demonic and a set up. Voting by the public was disregarded and overriden by jury votes. Croatia and Israel won the public vote. It's a complete sham and a set up. I haven't watched in a few years.
    The Irish witch is a Swedish woman who changed her name. I think it's time to stop watching TV especially RTE and other propaganda channels.
     
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  12. Patrick8747

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    didnt understand your quote you chase fools gold? you dont want pedophile priest shut down i believe overall the Irish have the highest per capita and growing up in an Irish area its pretty common i was bringing up the degradation of the Irish church and what was pertinent to the topic. do you want change in the church or do you stay silent. staying silent padraig or to yourself instead of speaking up is selfish. Thats how your statement came off earlier. if you only worry about yourself it can become selfish we need moments of this but when others are being abused or hurt in the church and the rich are collecting our churches and selling them as condos as irish families are doing in boston and Ireland. what do you expect they were originally on trust that collected a few thousand a year now they want a few hundred thousand and millions a year to keep it open then sell it off after that and make billions all because these rich families got rid of the trust. i know someone in boston who is going to sue them and run for office and buy back churches and put them back on trusts hears its his da vinci trust and hes the great french monarch ahead of the da vinci line so like of henri v. his grandfather was thomas joseph hayes so ahead of the rockafellar delohaye dibulgerio crown so hayes line and laterally passed it to me as a baby im also ahead of the gardiner trust because his wife held the gardiner crown so engish queen. i hold both by title domain and blessing and many other crown by blessing. i am ahead of the davinci trust but dont have access to it while so many spend it all and im in squaller. i was abducted twice once as a baby and once at 15 to 16 dided and came back 12 times or more. born in quincy ma an ancient city a king and prince of napoli so prince capuano and king delohaye as prophecied. im ahead of solomons line the kings of joseph as prophesied. Enoch represent me and elijah represent my half brother whos ahead of the romanoff line but we grew up together. our mother was a queen mother. by being the seed of a queen of england edith gardiner and a king of the delohaye line whos crown i retain. so my brother fufills the eastern orthdox prophecy and me the great french monarch prophecy. by being king of odessa by lineage as i am and by right ill connect ukraine as kiev and my brother rus being a romanoff. this is Gods plan we grew up middle class on a poor walking miles everywhere even when below 0 degrees cold.
     
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  13. Pax Prima

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    "choose fool's gold"
    Which represents "pleasure and profit" that comes at the expense of the other, but ultimately at a cost to our own souls. When priests succumb to the tempter I wonder if we failed them. Were they protected by our prayers, by our penances? Did we heed the call of Our Lady. I recently read about Cuapa, which echos Fatima. In it Our Lady states:

    "It saddens me to see the hardness of those persons' hearts. But you will have to pray for them so that they will change."
    https://www.ncregister.com/blog/1980-approved-marian-apparition-echoes-fatima
     
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

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    No one here is sticking up for predator priests. :notworthy:
     
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  15. DeGaulle

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    Much of that which the devil has gained control are sources of information, which are then played out to the unsuspecting in unfiltered form. It arguably began with the printing press, which disseminated bibles and many other books which many had the ability to read, and lacked the ability to understand. Unsurprisingly, all kinds of 'reforming' sects emerged.
     
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  16. Luan Ribeiro

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    One of the worst results of this is that many Protestant pastors abuse their supposed high knowledge of the original writings of Holy Scripture in Greek and Latin to define the original meaning of biblical teachings, which reflects their own teachings. In my opinion, this contrasts with the simplicity of the language of Our Lord, who taught the people in parables. Jehovah's witnesses managed to go further by preaching that their own translation of the Bible (which denies the divinity of Christ) is the true one, even going against the Christology of Martin Luther and John Calvin.
     
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  17. HeavenlyHosts

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    Satan asked the Lord for permission to destroy the Church. That was the vision of Pope Leo XIII.
     
  18. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Your message is clear!(y)
     
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  19. padraig

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    The devil seems often to attack the mind in many people first, the intellect. The main fault being pride. I think the big mistake people make is to think being smart is who they are. Whereas being smart is merely an attribute like how tall we are , what our skin colour is and so on. Intellect is a gift from God freely given.

    What truly sets us apart and what makes us wonderful is how much we love. If we were to be proud of anything it would be this. But even this is a result of grace.
     
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  20. padraig

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    It cheers me up that the witch was Swedish, that is something to hang on to.
     
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