https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68484651 Irish voters have overwhelmingly rejected a bid to change the definition of family. The first result from twin referendums, held on Friday, was announced on Saturday evening. Proposals to alter wording in the Irish Constitution to include families which are not based on marriage were defeated with 67.7% voting 'no'. Early indications show a second proposed change on the role of women in the home may also be defeated. The highest 'no' votes in the family referendum came from Donegal where 80% voted no. Only Dún Laoghaire, south-east of Dublin voted narrowly in favour of changing the definition of a family. The family referendum was defeated in the constituencies of all major party leaders - Fianna Fáil's Micheál Martin (Cork South Central), Fine Gael's Leo Varadkar (Dublin West), Green's Eamon Ryan (Dublin Bay South) Sinn Féin's Mary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central), Social Democrats' leader Holly Cairns (Cork South-West), Labour's Ivana Bacik (Dublin Bay South) and Aontú leader Peadar Tobín (Meath West). In the care referendum, on the role of women in the home, 38 of 39 constituencies have been counted, with a no vote in all so far.
Donegal has recorded the highest No vote of any constituency so far in either referendum, with just under 84% of the electorate rejecting the Care amendment. Earlier, Donegal also recorded the highest No vote in the Family amendment, with 80.21% of voters rejecting that proposal. Interestingly, Cavan-Monaghan and Laois-Offaly rounded out the top three No votes in both the Family and Care referendums. https://aleteia.org/2022/05/13/fatima-visionary-said-final-battle-would-be-over-marriage-and-family/ Our Lady of Fatima’s original private revelations looked grimly at the world, prophesying both death and destruction. One of the visionaries, Sr. Lucia, later revealed to an Italian cardinal that there would be a “final battle” over marriage and the family. Cardinal Carlo Caffarra revealed these prophetic words in an interview with Aleteia in 2017, explaining how he had received a handwritten note from Sr. Lucia. The letter ended, saying (in 1983 or 1984): “Father, a time will come when the decisive battle between the kingdom of Christ and Satan will be over marriage and the family. And those who will work for the good of the family will experience persecution and tribulation. But do not be afraid, because Our Lady has already crushed his head.” Cardinal Caffarra believed these words of Sr. Lucia were being fulfilled in our present age, especially with the horrors of abortion and the legalization of homosexual marriage. Today, what do we observe? Two terrible events. First, the legitimization of abortion. That is, abortion has become a subjective right of woman. Now, ‘subjective right’ is an ethical category and therefore we are here entering into the world of good and evil, and we say that abortion is a good; it is a right. The second thing we see is the attempt to equate homosexual relationships with marriage. These two issues have led to much persecution of those who oppose them, both physically and verbally. The good news is the final words of Sr. Lucia to Cardinal Caffarra. Do not be afraid, because Our Lady has already crushed his head. While the final battle continues to rage in the world, the key is to not be afraid and trust that Our Lady will triumph and peace will reign. Read more:
Thank God that common sense still exists in Ireland and that the referendum failed... However, knowing the politicians who are cultural marxists in the service of gobalists, expect the same referendum in a few years until they achieve the desired change. As soon as I read in the article that "they failed to convince the public to vote for" it is enough indication for me that they have a goal and will not stop until they achieve it. That's how it was with all referendums before, when they achieve the desired result by brainwashing the public, they move on to the next perverted segment and so on.
Well they are all quite wicked. But it cheers me up so much to see that good has triumphed at least for a little while it reminds me of Saint Jeanne D'Arc. So very,very, very happy and proud of our own dear Irish Catholic people.
Shove it up their wicked , Globalist, nether regions. Something for them to have a good chew on, the devils
Waiting for the Irish Catholic Bishops and the Vatican to celebrate this Great Victory... waiting...waiting... waiting...waiting..
I tried some of these 'smileys' in response to your own, but I can't get them to save. Anyway...a good day. A good day.
In fairness, I think they timidly recommended a 'no' vote, but they were certainly one of the most minor reasons for it. It is possible, very possible, that they would have done more harm than good if they had come out strongly, such is the ease with which people can be manipulated into hostility towards Church 'authority'.
I agree DeGaulle. Here is the Irish Bishops' statement. https://www.catholicbishops.ie/2024...statement-on-the-family-and-care-referendums/ They don't explicitly say 'Vote No', but if you read the statement, that is what they recommended. In fairness, I saw another article entitled 'Bishops recommend a No vote ...', so it was widely known which side they were on. I doubt if they will be seen to be celebrating however. Whether this is prudence or political correctness, I don't know.
If I were a Bishop I would preach hell fire and Damnation. Why? Because my Faith is still strong. Very, very, very strong. My parents believed, my grandmothers before them. But I would dare to say my own Faith dwarfs theirs. With every heart beat and with every breath. Every heart beat, every breath. I have talked face to face with Our Blessed Mother, this has never gone away, not for a second. What a great grace to see and talk with her. Oh I have always tried to live up to such a great, great grace. How very,very beautiful she is, how gorgeous, the angles themselves are dumbfounded at even a glance. Ah Mary, so many years ago and still my heart stops at the very memory. Mary, Mary, Mary Mother of God, how very, very beautiful you are.. I saw you face to face and talked to you. How beautiful you are!! The angels gaze in astonishment! How beautiful! The Apostles look, astonished!! The Demons race in horror! You taught me how to pray as you promised from Carmel's summit I greet thee.
After Padraig's wonderful post above, mine is very mundane, but good news also. At Mass today, it was joyous to hear motherhood being celebrated, after our leaders' failed attempt to abolish the concept yesterday. The Prayers for the Faithful were inspiring, rather than the usual cuts from news headlines, all about Our Lady and her role as Mother of Our Lord and of us all.
Its weird how this referendum centred around Mothers Day. Imagine how stupid it was to have this referendum that was to destroy the role of Women/ Mothers/ the Family so close to Mother's Day. What were they even thinking? Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat (literally: Those whom God wishes to destroy, he first deprives of reason) https://www.ihrec.ie/app/uploads/20...cle-41.2-of-the-Constitution-of-Ireland-1.pdf 'Article 41 of the Constitution of Ireland protects the rights of the family and contains a number of provisions imposing duties on the State. Article 41.1 recognises the family as the ‘natural primary and fundamental unit group of Society’. Noting that Article 41.3.1 obliges the State to ‘guard with special care the institution of Marriage, on which the Family is founded’ the Supreme Court has interpreted the references to the family in Article 41 as the family founded on marriage.3'
Irish people, what is your position regarding the possible unification with Northern Ireland? I always see you as a one country that, because of the dirty game of the British (which also destroyed us in the Balkans and pushed us into Yugoslavia through its masonic lodges). Now, in the last census(Northen Ireland), Catholics have become the majority and have 42%, atheists are now at 17%, while other Christian denominations are at 37%, almost 9% less than 20 years ago with a downward trend. I know that today there are much bigger unification problems than religious reasons, that a new political elite of Northern Ireland has been created, as well as the continued strong influence of England. However, we are talking about the same people who are forcibly separated on the same island, similar to North and South Korea. What are the attitudes today, is there even a discussion on this topic ? According to the list I see that young people are increasingly identifying as Irish, while the older generations are more British-minded...So there is a possibility?
I think that there is a general acceptance that it is only a matter of time before there is a vote for unity, which is likely to be passed. I think that the European Union and the United States, which both favour unity (the US, bipartisanly) will provide the necessary economic supports to replace those of the United Kingdom. The recent acceptance of the DUP to enter government as the junior partner with Sinn Fein, despite the objections of a small number of unionist hardliners is a significant straw in the wind. There will need to be great patience and generosity and sacred cows will have to be given up by both sides of the divide. There is much common moral and social ground between devout Catholics and many of those who vote for the DUP.
They have imported so many foreigners, particularly in Southern Ireland - that reunification is now an irrelevance. It will happen when the right hand wants to mask what the left hand is doing. Ireland has indeed fallen. I was at Sunday mass this morning - in a small Donegal chapel, (which now incorporates three interlinked parishes and is served by only one priest) ------ and the chapel wasn't 1/3 full. The priest talked about rugby and football matches that were to be played later in the day. He mentioned climate change, twice. He didn't mention abortion. He didn't mention the referendum set up to attack the family the previous day. I know he's flat out doing masses and I'm not criticising - I'm just highlighting how they've been beaten into saying nothing "controversial". Aye, we're in big bother here in Ireland
I usually go to 8am Mass on Sunday morning but yesterday I was sick and went to the main one at 11am . It was packed out, standing room only. Amazing.But I got sick at that Mass and had to leave early. So I went back to 6pm Mass, once again packed. Again amazed. I never expected this although my usual 8 am Mass has a good crowd too. Very,very many young parents with children, teenagers too. It reminds me of what Pope Benedict said that the way we pray is the way we live. Good Liturgy is very,very important. It is vital in fact and the Old Mass is just beautiful good Liturgy.
