Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by AidanK, Sep 11, 2020.
You’re so right HH....it might have been a routine D&C...not a abortion at all!
That's what I thought too. It could well have been a D&C done after a miscarriage. In any case AidanK , you were not aware of what happened and it could well have been a procedure after a miscarriage. Please be at peace AidanK
This possibility hadn't occurred to me. Thank you
I think, on an intellectual level, I understood that I had no culpability. However, emotionally a feeling of crushing guilt ensued. This thread has really been very therapeutic for me. The responses of each and every kind and caring Christian have been so thoughtful. I used to balk at the idea of people talking about an "online family". Not anymore. I truly believe that we are brothers and sisters as evidenced by the way in which support is forthcoming in times of tribulation and success
I had miscarriages and this was always the procedure carried out post miscarriage.
Guilt is a very paralysing thing. It has prevented you from asking the questions and from teasing out the possibility of why a D&C was carried out. God always wants to forgive us and have us move on. The devil, 'the accuser', wants to lock us in guilt and self loathing. Pray the power of the precious Blood to set you free.
As mentioned already most likely linked to a miscarriage.
May praying the Rosary bring you true healing. God is most tender and cries with us in our pain. I pray you hear His calming voice that will bring you peace and comfort.
At the center of the Haily Mary is the proto-Gospel ' 'Blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus'. These words said slowly have enormous spiritual power - to bring us spiritual healing within and to disarm the enemy --- they are a hymn of praise to the incarnation.
My heart aches for your many years of suffering Aiden. Being in the surgical field for many years I have not participated in abortions. Every surgical hospital I have worked at knows that I refuse to be involved with abortions and sexual orientation changes.
A D&C here in the U.S. is also performed for women whose baby does dies prematurely in the womb. I have been involved in these surgeries crying internally while praying for the lost life and the suffering mother.
It is hard to hear the term "products of conception " so callously used by others, but it is the universal term.
I pray that this helps you, our Lord does not berate you for the possible abortion as you were not a willing participant in what occurred. Fear not, you are in our prayers.
I agree, BUT... I think it's used for the same reason that we refer to a dead body as a "corpse" -- the vivifying force is gone, as is everything that made the body into a person, so there is only this word we have to refer to the shell that formerly housed the person.
Jesus said to Saint Faustina: I am love and mercy itself. ... Let no soul fear to draw near to Me, even though its sins be as scarlet. ... My mercy is greater than your sins, and those of the entire world. ... I let My Sacred Heart be pierced with a lance, thus opening wide the source of mercy for you. Come then with trust to draw graces from this fountain. ... The graces of My mercy are drawn by the means of one vessel only, and that is trust. The more a soul trusts, the more it will receive.
Do you believe in the Divine Mercy as revealed to St. Faustina?
Hi Aiden-I am just reading through all of this now and wanted to let you know you will be in my prayers. Guilt is such a heavy burden that so often we don’t even realize how much suffering it brings us. I say this only because I know one of my greatest faults is not letting go of the past and being unable to forgive myself for things I’ve confessed yet still dwell on.
One thing which took some time for me to learn is the difference between grief and guilt. They are so often associated with each other that they seem impossibly intertwined, but this is not always the case. In situations that have caused me to struggle with forgiving myself, I try to separate out the two to see what the root issue is. There are times when I truly feel guilt as I know I’ve done something wrong and I still feel grief at the thought of offending our Lord, but both are kept in check once I come to realize that He has forgiven me and I am spending more time dwelling on something that He is not, when I ought to be trying to be doing what He wants of me in that moment. The times I have most struggled with letting something go and accepting that God has forgiven me have been times that have involved grief that I did not always allow myself to feel or deal with properly at the time, usually because I didn’t know what to do in the moment or I thought I just needed to move on. Once I opened up to others and allowed myself to experience the grief and sorrow, I found that these feelings of guilt abated much more quickly. While you were not directly involved with this procedure, nor were you the one having it, it was still an objectively sorrowful experience to be present for in some small way that you should not feel bad about grieving. It was sad to read about and even more sad to think it is happening all of the time. But none of it is or was ever your fault, and you have been carrying a heavy burden for so long. Hopefully everyone here can help you to see that.
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No Beth. My devotion is to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
A very worthy devotion. It seems to me that My mercy is greater than your sins echoes the same sentiment as number six of the twelve promises Jesus made to those who hold a true devotion to His Sacred Heart.
6. Sinners shall find in my Heart the source and infinite ocean of mercy.
What are your thoughts on the sixth promise?
If it were a natural miscarriage, the baby had already died.
I work medical and "D & C" is the standard procedure.
The way you describe this, I'm certain it was a natural miscarriage.
Please put your mind at ease. Please don't grieve over this any longer.
Ps 103:8 The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. 9 He will not always chide, nor will he keep his anger for ever. 10 He does not deal with us according to our sins, nor requite us according to our iniquities. 11 For as the heavens are high above the earth, so great is his steadfast love toward those who fear him; 12 as far as the east is from the west, so far does he remove our transgressions from us.
And remember the Agnus Dei:
Agnus Dei, qui tolis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world, have mercy on us.
Agnus Dei, qui tolis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.
Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world, grant us peace.
Thanks to all for your kindness and prayers
AidanK, I have been following this thread over the past several days and have pondered whether or not to share my own experience. I have also been living with great guilt and sorrow for the past 40 years. When I was around 20 years old, I lent money to a friend so that she could have an abortion. I think in my mind, I was just helping someone out. I don’t think I really understood the gravity of what I was doing. I know God has forgiven me, but the guilt and regret remains, even after all these many years. It has gotten much better though because in my heart, I know God knows my deep sorrow and I have complete trust in His mercy. Of all of my many sins over my lifetime, this is by far the worst thing I have ever done. I don’t know if my story helps or not, but I just wanted you to know you are not alone. Peace to you.
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