House of Prayer

Discussion in 'Marian Apparitions' started by Fatima, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. jackzokay

    jackzokay Archangels

    We both have a big day coming this month, Quis!

    Let me be the first to congratulate you...
     
  2. Agnes rose

    Agnes rose Archangels

     
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  3. Agnes rose

    Agnes rose Archangels

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    I read last night that up to 400.00 for a picture of the Blessed Mother as she appears to Christina.
     
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  4. Agnes rose

    Agnes rose Archangels

    Done with this thread. I did enough reading last night that reminded me why i stopped following her years ago .
     
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  5. padraig

    padraig New Member

    My main concern with these messages is that when people make critiques either of Christine or her messages , 'Jesus' and 'Mary' jump to her defense in a way that seems to be very vehement and unspiritual. They kind of respond in a kind of going straight for the throat kind of way, like rabid Rottweillers.

    I recall one particular message for instance which, 'foretold', a truly dreadful fate for those many, many people on her home island of Achill. They would, apparently all be away watching a football match in Dublin and when they tried to get back a gigantic wave would cut of the island and they would all drown. All her island critics ; all in the one go as a judgement from heaven.

    Well I find this all hard to swallow and makes me think about wish fulfillment.

    Her own rage and anger coming forth in her messages. That this is what she wishes would happen to folks.

    I don't see any of Jesus and Mary in any of this, on the other hand I suspect a huge amount of the wrath of Christina herself.
     
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  6. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Yes, I’m sorry, but there is enough public information available and having my own personal experience for me to simply say that Christine Gallagher is suspect. Everything about her screams fraud.

    So, that’s it for me. Everyone can decide for themselves. Just be sure to research her yourself before you donate one red cent. For me, I will support causes that I have no doubts about...I’ll not be buying Mrs. Gallagher her next new lavish country home.

    It doesn’t take someone like Christine Gallagher to tell us something “bad” might happen. I’ll go out on a limb and tell you that myself...no charge! No donation necessary!
     
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  7. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I find this kind of semi hysterical tone in many of Christina's messages especially aimed at folk who dare to question..and there are so many messages..there must be tens of thousands of them by now.
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Yes I think best avoid.
     
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  9. maryrose

    maryrose Powers

    I feel like I am jumping into the bearpit writing on this thread. I visited the House of Prayer many years ago when it opened initially. It was very nice and we met Christina. She came across as a very genuine simple person. At the time there were many reports of Our Lady appearing at various shrines throughout Ireland, Mount Mellary. Inchigeela, and many more. I got to know many people who saw Our Lady and I had a dear friend who saw her and received messages from her for many years. She retained her privacy and was not requested to go public. It was very difficult for her as many of her immediate family were not sympathetic. She suffered much with poor health and died a few years ago. Many of those who saw Our Lady at that time went on to crash and burn. There were too many over the top people around them with agendas. I honestly leave the judgement to God. Remember Christina could not read or write as she had suffered from dyslexia which had not been diagnosed and after Our Lady appearing she was able to read. I think she was a very simple and quite uneducated person. She has made many prophecies which on the face of it seem to have been fulfilled. I don't have a Matrix medal or her picture of Our Lady. I do have a miraculous medal.
    I don't follow visionaries as such and I think if you go to these places and the visionary is centre stage beware. You should be getting a holy Mass and Confession as the purpose must be to go back to the sacraments.
    Money of course is a problem and visionaries are afflicted with human weaknesses and are possible influenced by others.
    My motto is take the good and don't get involved with anyone that makes you uncomfortable.
     
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  10. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    There is always the possibility that initially the visions were genuine and then over time the whole thing became corrupted.

    I do think she is best avoided for the reasons Padraig said -- the denunciation of those who refused to believe. We are not obliged to believe in any private revelation.
     
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  11. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Money of course is a problem and visionaries are afflicted with human weaknesses and are possible influenced by others.
    My motto is take the good and don't get involved with anyone that makes you uncomfortable.

    Very sound advice Maryrose.
     
  12. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    I'm absolutely sure that she is not a true prophet. I don't despise prophecy but I prefer not to be sucked in by cults. Neither do I despise Mrs. Gallagher. Fr. McGinnity knows enough about Church teaching and scripture to avoid any banana skins. How many persecuted prophets lived in mansions despite having no visible means of support?

    The kind of publicity the House of Prayer attracts is the last thing the Church needs in Ireland. It's grist for the mill of anti-Catholic media. For example:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=4OwDwc6E-TE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=jKgx94QIiSc

     
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  13. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I sued to believe in the House of Prayer when it started it is true. At least I was inclined to believe it, though I never really became involved.

    One of the reasons I was inclined to believe was Fr McGinnity himself, who was an is Christina's Spiritual Director. He had a very fine reputation, he taught at Maynooth the Irish National Seminary. He made a very fine stand against corruption there and paid the price. At that time money was not being collected and Christina's messages were in line with Catholic Prophesy and Church authority and teachings. I did visit the House of Prayer but never got to meet the lady herself.

    Things have very much changed over time however.

    I think I'll leave it at that; I don't want to flog a dead horse.
     
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  14. Happy 50th birthday brother Jack God bless you (y):):)
     
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  15. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Message received by Christina on April 25, 2019

    "My daughter, I call you to write. I call you through Jesus My Son for We are one. I have called you, My daughter, My little one. You are chosen to be the messenger of truth. I desire you relay truth to My people throughout the world. Many bear not truth but lies and deception that fill many hearts. In that way they permit truth in them to be destroyed. Give this message to all My people of truth who bear life in Jesus My Son.

    My people, hear now, I call you. I am He who is and will be forever. Hear Me, your Lord God. The deceiver is robbing many souls and seducing them into the cesspool of death. My shepherds - how they grieve Me! They have allowed the flock to be scattered and so many of them have become lost in the darkness of him who desires their souls. Woe unto the man who opens his life to become one in darkness.

    Remember the parable Jesus tells about the talents.*
    I, your Lord God must prepare you who have ears to hear and eyes to see. Do not be still, let truth flow from you: Life in Jesus demands it of you. Time is becoming short before the world will witness a darkness and suppression from a power beyond the world, a power of antiChrist. He has deceived many people, soon he will deceive most people, even the elect. There is great unrest, unrest the world cannot see, Agreements have been made and papers signed for the final destruction of the world. The final battle of the deceiver draws close and so many people merry in sin of the darkest kind. There is no repentance because they have become one in and with death. To many there is no way to return. (Such souls are permanently lost because in their freedom they do not desire the Mercy of God).

    My messenger of truth, I have drawn from you much. I have heard you cry out to Me. Be still as I bless you for all your endurance for the souls I thirst for - but in vain for many. Many have made their choice for death. So many will not serve truth or life but they embrace death through the seduction of the devil, the flesh and the world. Time draws close for the deceiver to wield his power over the world. So, so many will be caught in his power as way is made for antiChrist, yes anti of Me and of life. …....
    (A most serious message regarding the Catholic Church was given here. It is on record and will be made available when appropriate.)

    The deceiver wields only death. Look around you, see his power of falsity. It is everywhere, darkness and sin excused as righteous. The deceiver says, 'Partake. See, it's good!' Look around you. There you can see it.

    My people, so few want to know Me. They welcome into their heart, life and soul - death. It is their free will. Speak of the man in the Gospel parable who has a need to go back and bury his dead because there are many turning to bury their already dead: mankind has become one in darkness and refuses to put their hand to the plough and to remain steadfast. They could receive wisdom from Me in goodness but in their free will they choose everything of the world and the flesh and refuse Life of Me through Jesus My Son.

    My call has become a mockery. It is easy for the man of perdition to unite with the devil in lies to destroy and block truth. Such a man I do not know because he welcomes falsity but falsity will not save him as he nears Hades. There his suffering will start.

    My people, open your hearts to truth as your time draws close to your choice of life or death.

    There are plans in place for all I have given you.

    The one-world government is with you, its dictatorship will lead only to your suppression, destruction and death eternal.

    The one-world bank, can you not see its development to suppress your worldly goods, which will lead to hunger cries everywhere and result in diseases afflicting the bodies of all and the people with no wisdom where to turn. My messenger of truth, you will be one of a very small number who will have that knowledge - if they permit your life to continue.

    And the one-world church will yield its freedom into the hands of him who will destroy through what will be the mark of the beast. How so many will run freely for it with hearts full of joy, in boastfulness. I tell you the time draws close to its fulfilment.

    World war 3, it is in its readiness.

    I bless you, my messenger of truth, through the Sacred Heart of My Son Jesus in union in the Holy Ghost. Amen. Amen."


    *The Parable of the Talents referred to by the Lord in His message:
    "For it is as if a man, going on a journey, summoned his slaves and entrusted his property to them; to one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one, to each according to his ability. Then he went away. The one who had received the five talents went off at once and traded with them, and made five more talents. In the same way, the one who had the two talents made two more talents. But the one who had received the one talent went off and dug a hole in the ground and hid his master's money. After a long time the master of those slaves came and settled accounts with them. Then the one who had received the five talents came forward, bringing five more talents, saying, "Master, you handed over to me five talents; see, I have made five more talents." His master said to him, "Well done, good and trustworthy slave; you have been trustworthy in a few things, I will put you in charge of many things; enter into the joy of your master." And the one with the two talents also came forward, saying, "Master, you handed over to me two talents; see, I have made two more talents." His master said to him, "Well done, good and trustworthy slave; you have been trustworthy in a few things, I will put you in charge of many things; enter into the joy of your master." Then the one who had received the one talent also came forward, saying, "Master, I knew that you were a harsh man, reaping where you did not sow, and gathering where you did not scatter seed; so I was afraid, and I went and hid your talent in the ground. Here you have what is yours." But his master replied, "You wicked and lazy slave! You knew, did you, that I reap where I did not sow, and gather where I did not scatter? Then you ought to have invested my money with bankers, and on my return I would have received what was my own with interest. So take the talent from him, and give it to the one with the ten talents. For to all those who have, more will be given, and they will have an abundance; but from those who have nothing, even what they will have will be taken away. As for this worthless slave, throw him into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

    (When asked how the parable of the talents relates to this message, Christina explained the understanding which was given to her, as follows. She said that God expects all those who have received His gifts of conversion and healing through this mission of Our Lady Queen of Peace to proclaim the truth of what was given them. In this way they do not hide the talents but use them to give glory to God and thus draw others to hear the truth of His call through Our Lady’s message. How many medically upheld miraculous healings as well as spiritual conversions have been hidden, unacknowledged or no longer proclaimed! Clearly, Our Lord will call each one to account.)
     
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  16. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    I know there are many people who do not believe Christina to be a true prophet, but I can only tell you of my experience regarding her. This is my story:

    Christina Gallagher

    This is written from my memory and as this was 25-26 years ago (shortly after I came into the Catholic Church) much has not been remembered exactly as had happened, but this is my story as I remember it:

    Soon after coming into the Church, I had a wonderful nun, Sr. Maureen Ryan (from Ireland but living in the States), who was helping me at that time as I had many mystical experiences happening to me that I didn’t understand. Shortly after my meetings with her, I went to a Marian conference with my husband where Christina was to have spoken (as we went to many, I do not remember which one this was). As she was sick at the time and unable to travel, they had set up a large screen and televised her talk. As soon as I heard her speak, a feeling of great peace came over me. Christina spoke about a medal that Our Lady wanted us all to have and many, many people at the conference went to the back of the auditorium to get their medal. As I looked back, I thought to myself that I would never get through that crowd, but went ahead to get my medal. As I walked toward the table where the medals were, it seemed as though everyone parted aside without even looking at me and I was able to walk directly up to the table and get my medal.

    Back at home I went to meet with Sr. Maureen and told her about the conference and the medal I had gotten from Christina. She then told me an amazing story: Sr. Maureen was in Medjugorje a few years prior to this and went into Mass noticing that people were saving seats, so she saved the seat next to her. As Christina walked down the isle of the Church, Sister motioned to her to sit in the seat next to her. Sister had no idea of who Christina was. After Mass, Christina asked if she could talk to Sister, so they went outside and sat on the steps of the Church where Christina told her what she was experiencing at that time and told Sister that Jesus asked that she have a medal made and gave her instructions on how it should look. Sister Maureen directed Christina to one of the Medjugorje priests. Christina had gotten Sisters address and had been writing her many letters for quite some time, but Sister thought it was time that Christina had someone in Ireland to help her, so she directed her to a Sister in her Order back in Ireland.

    But, the story continues: A few years after this, my husband and I started a Divine Will prayer group in North Palm Beach, FL. We had quite a large group of people. (I won’t go into details, but Jesus told me several things that would happen in that group – which did happen!) One of the ladies in our group had gone on a pilgrimage to the House of Prayer in Ireland and came back to the States and opened the House of Prayer in Florida.

    When I first became Catholic, I asked Our Lady to never allow me to become deceived by any untruth (books or visionaries) I believe Our Lady has always been true to my request.

    What follows is another story about Christina and what I experienced.

    May all be for the Glory of God! Fiat!
     
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  17. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    Yes we know, that is the third time you've posted your story on this thread...

    Serious question:

    Why the need for chasing messages like this?

    Look at Akita, Fatima, etc.; there is always the call to prayer whether it be the Rosary, Scapular, or/and Consecration. This message is literally a vague attempt at explaining world events - so vague and leaving out a portion of the message so they can post it later and make it a "prophecy" - with little to no call to prayer (but a whole lot about how Christine is faithful, beloved, necessary, etc).

    How can you be a follower of these messages and still be a follower of Garabandal? Is there going to be a WW3 or isn't there?

    How come, if Luisa's Divine Will is true - which both of you supporting her claim is the essential thing now and the ultimate gift, that Our Lady isn't pushing that?

    These questions are all rhetorical of course, the answer is there for those who can see it.
     
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  18. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    It is not up to any of us to tell God or our blessed mother what they need to reveal or to whom. Using your thinking, why does our blessed mother appear in so many apparitions with differing messages? Couldn't she have just said everything to one person at one time? Gods ways are not your ways Frodo. He speaks, as well as his mother, to whom they choose when they choose and in whatever mystery they desire to speak too. Some believe Christina is such a person and others don't. You seem to enjoy letting everyone know which seers you reject and which you dont, as if you are the subject matter expert.
     
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  19. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    Of course it's not up to me to decide if God wants to speak. I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I do find that to be humorous :)

    The questions I asked are legitimate:

    How can one believe in Garabandal that says there will be no World War 3 and then another revelation that says there will be?

    How can one believe that the ultimate gift of God was given to humanity (at least Luisa's interpretation of that as presented on this forum) and then believe Our Lady speaks nothing of that interpreted way at the supposed apparitions after that?

    Let's take the last message you posted as an example:

    Q. How many times was the rosary mentioned?
    A. Zero (0)

    Q. How many times was the Eucharist or Scapular or Consecration mentioned?
    A. Zero (0)

    Q.How many times was Christina mentioned ?
    A. TEN (10!)

    - "My Daughter"
    - "My Little One"
    - "Chosen Messenger"
    - "Messenger of Truth (3 separate times)
    - "I have drawn much from you"
    - "I have heard you cry"
    - "I bless you"
    - "One of a very small number you will have that knowledge"

    We didn't even get into the NDA's that she required of employees of her non profit, the resignations, the donations returned, etc.

    As you know I've also been to one of her house and seen her, so what I've seen and experienced first hand.
     
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  20. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Frodo,
    It is very apparent that you have not even read Christina’s books as all of the things you mentioned are written about in messages from Jesus and Our Lady many, many times. I do not have time to quote from them right now, but will do so later if you would like to continue this. And also, just to let you know, Jesus told Luisa also many, many times about what you are questioning. You do not have to believe in any of the messages but perhaps you will allow others to discern for themselves without your constant negativity. Sorry to upset you with my re-post about my experience with Christina, but I am sure there are others out there who just might want to read it.
    Also, I believe that the messages regarding WW111 were saying that “if” we don’t change, there is a possibility that there will be another war. Are we doing what we should be doing to keep this from happening? We should all be asking ourselves that question.
     
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