Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Shae, Apr 27, 2021.
I have no plans to take the vaccine.
I have been struggling with this decision for a while now. I’ve ruled out the J&J one as the Church has said if we have ex’s choice do not take this one. But my real questions are related to safety and side effects both immediately and long term. My situation is also has the added nuance of having had Covid back in November 2020. I’ve had 3 antibody years - Jan, March, and May (2021) and all show me as positive. The test cutoff is 14 and my numbers we’re 146, 104, and most recent 103. It seems this would mean I’ve got natural immunity. Yet- my doctor and several sources tell me I still should get a vaccine. They suggest it would give me even more durability. But I’m concerned - not only reactions but since I’ve got antibodies could it trigger a worse reaction. I’m praying. Discernment. Does anyone have any insights. It seems like science and real data is so lacking. Thanks.
Send a pm to BrianK. He has a lot of knowledge. But welcome to anyone else who can help.
If you have natural immunity thatseems to me a better defense than the vaccine. MDs are pushing the vax on those with natural immunity anyway. They are very very frightened of this virus from having treated severely ill patients. But if you have had it you should be all set. People who got the original SARS 20 years ago still have immunity from what I have read. But HH is right. Check with Brian.
I would consider whether you would want RNA manipulation. Also, as I heard it, stem cells of aborted babies have been used.
My wife took the moderna one today against my advise, like so many things going on recently this vaccine has caused great division for me. I will not take it or any mRNA vaccine, but since I know so many now who have taken it I have to accept their decision and continue to pray for them.
I haven't gotten it ....under heavy duty pressure from all my dox however. Unless there's some unseen event in the future that changes my mind .... I'm not getting it!!
All I know is:
-Vaccinated people still have been known to get Covid-19. That means they can also spread it. I’ve not seen any legitimate studies on the vaccine lessening their symptoms, so why would this motivate anyone to get it for that reason?
-Masks do not work. Son’s an EMT using state of the art protective equipment/protocols and still got Covid-19. That’s how I got it back in January.
-The technology is experimental and there are tremendously dangerous side effects for some people who have gotten the jab. Don’t know how the bodies of those who’ve been given the mRNA will react should a future and possibly more powerful virus hit.
Oh, and here’s something interesting from my own research. After knowing this, can’t you see the motivation here? NOT altruism, I am sorry to say:
Moderna became a public company on Dec 7th of 2018. It listed at $22/share. On Dec of 2019 enters Covid-19. In May of 2020, it climbed to $47/share and by July, $95/share. By Dec of 2020 it’s at $152/share. Feb at $183/share. So, in that time alone, it has gone up 838%.
Now the question that should be asked is, “Just who purchased Moderna stock in the first year, we’d like to know???” Know the answer to this question and you’ll find out just who knew how it would all play out in their favor.
Don’t take it, brother.
miker... Im with FP..... You dont need it!! Dont take t!!!
Adding this here as a friend just sent this to me. While I’m not in favor of Father’s manner of addressing his superiors, as per the other thread on that topic, I see that he speaks powerfully and truthfully here with regards to the vaccine:
A friend shared that he read that those who had antibodies and got the vaccine were suffering from gland issues in their face. Please check this out. Natural immunity is all you need…IMHO.
Absolutely truthful. Thank you.
After reading each and every message in this forum, I became more confused about whether to take the vaccine or not. I have been praying for discernment, wisdom, and judgment in making a decision. I am from Manila and my mother and PWD brother have not taken the vaccine, as we would like to wait for the so-called "herd immunity" which, according to our government, will happen when at least 50-70% of our population have taken the jab. My sister in Maryland and all her friends had taken 2 shots of the Pfizer vaccine, and they are okay without adverse effects. Still, I am not taking the vaccine at the moment, but what if I am "forced" to due to pressure from the government, as threats of future surges and lockdowns are being circulated? I also pray that our government will not make vaccinations mandatory (thru vaccine passes), especially for buying grocery items, entering buildings or offices for essential transactions, or other day-to-day activities.
This leads me to the question of whether this worldwide vaccination program is a grand plan to create fear in people from the Covid-19 virus for the purpose of a future plan to "microchip" them. It's like an experiment to see if people will scramble for the vaccine out of fear of the virus, or a "dress rehearsal" whether or not people will scramble to be "microchipped" if they are told that they could not buy or sell without the "mark" on their right hand or forehead. Will you scramble to be "marked" if you are told that you cannot buy food or sell property?
I would hope I would be able to hold out and pray for God to intervene. Your question is akin to asking someone whether or not they’d choose a slow and deliberate martyrdom at some future date. I know from the very old Baltimore Catechism (thinking the one from the 1800’s), we are not to think on such a time but, instead, wait for it and make our actions in the moment be our answer. Why? Because it will depend God’s grace at that time and our openness to it.
Thank you so much for your response. I just feel like God is trying to test us today. I hope and pray we all pass the test when that time comes.
It’s a separation of the wheat from the tares. God is allowing a godless government to do evil.
Yes, I agree, Allen..
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