Gog and Magog battle seen by Jewish youth

Very interesting video which also backs up Natan's NDE re: Obama mentioned in Bible codes as Gog from an expert rabbi.

T2B NOTE: Please keep in mind that Shaw is a Christian and Glazerson is a Jew. They obviously have different understandings of who Messiah is, the timing, etc. Also, the viewer needs to differentiate the return of Christ vs. the “Sign” of His coming.

http://www.timetobelieve.com/2016/03/messiah-sign-in-nibiru-next-week/

 

See this video - made in 2008!
http://www.timetobelieve.com/2016/02/pole-shifts-planet-x/

 

And another video involving same Bible code experts also speaks of Obama....warning in connection with the Jewish day of atonement this year:

 

Thanks, Julia, that is a great summary. It's good to keep reviewing what our Bible and mystics have to say. Sometimes I get so bogged down with information that it's hard to keep things straight.

 

Thanks for the info about Marino. I have never heard of him but just now looked him up on you tube. I found a video posted by davidtlig and I was knocked out....I love him......such a humble, loving presence. Are there any more current presentations of his somewhere? I would love to hear what he has to say about our even more deadly world. God bless you all!

 

The video is very interesting but correct me if I am wrong that they predicted an asteroid to hit this past September 23rd? I guess that they were wrong about that? I wonder how often they have been correct, does anyone know? It is still very interesting.
I posted the video of Natan's testimony somewhere on one of the Garabandal threads because I was wondering if his predictions are in anyway related to the Garabandal predictions (the Warning will happen when things are at their worst) and I tried to determine Obama's connection with the missiles Iran was testing and then I realized that his connection may be the money (6billion$) that was given to Iran in exchange for them signing a peace agreement. I also watched a video which analyzes what Natan had said and the analysis said that Obama cannot be Gog because he the head of a major nation (or something to that effect) and then I read that some people think that Obama may want to become the UN's Secretary General. Then I started wondering if that is what Natan's vision is depicting? I believe that maybe Natan figured that what he was shown must be imminent because Obama's presidency is coming to an end but in fact, if Obama gets that position in the UN his vision may be something that is not exactly imminent (a few months away) but something that may happen in the distant future??? So many if's.

 

I notice that in the video the Rabbi states that for the Jews dates are not enough....that repentance is necessary so that if that is not done then the Jews are not ready for what the dates may indicate could be in the future. He says that these dates given mean that the time is "more appropriate for the Messiah" than others....and that, of course, the Messiah could come any day! Seems like such hints are given to arouse the people to expectation and thus the need for repentance in order to prepare just as we are perhaps being aroused to expect the Warning/Illumination of Conscience which involves repentance and conversion. And then Nibiru is a "sign" of the coming of the Messiah....like we are told to look for signs in the sky. And they emphasize that the Torah codes are not a crystal ball. There was no mention of an asteroid hitting this past Sept. 23 that I heard. They spoke of the feast days of Purim of this year (which just passed....March 23 - 26) as kind of important but seemed to emphasize that this whole year, within the Torah codes, is mentioned symbols of great light being given in some way. They said that now more than any other time it seems that there is an expectation, in all various forms of religions, of the one who is to come tied to the beliefs of that particular faith...be it Christian, Jewish, or Muslim.

When Natan mentions that this "war" really began 9-11-15 and that Obama is Gog who will initiate the time when all nations will come against Israel....well, the great enabling of Iran to carry out their Nuclear program, in the so called "agreement" arranged by Obama's, was officially granted by Congress, exclusively by Democratic votes in the Senate, on that date! Supposedly it contained certain regulations on Iran but which of course have already been violated with no repercussions. And it's more like 150 billion dollars that was handed over to Iran to use in their weaponizing of terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah against Israel. And yes, it could be well expected for Obama to make some move, possibly before the Nov. elections, that could instigate some major "security breach" in the world that would effect the world and give rationale to nations to carry out the desire to come against Israel. At that point Obama could reach out to the UN to get "permission" to unite the nations, under UN auspices, to come against Israel/Jerusalem. So then Obama could be Gog, the head of the nation that instigates the world coming together against Israel, with Magog being the nation itself....as I understand anyway. So Israel will stand alone and only God can protect the remnant during this time.

 

I thought that my last post might be confusing because I am referring to 2 different videos.
The first one that I am referring to is the one that EarthtoAngels posted, they mention an Asteroid for Sept. 23rd 2015 which didn't happen, at least, I don't think that it did AND although I find the video interesting I wonder if they have successfully predicted other events. I don't want to assume since they were wrong about the asteroid that they will be wrong about everything.
Then I talk about Natan's video. I also discovered that the Battle of Psalm 83 needs to occur before the Gog-Magog War, so I just am confused. I am learning about these things as I search for them on the web. I sent an email to someone who, if he is willing, might be able to decipher Natan's vision a little better. If I get a reply back then I will let all of you know what I find out.

 

Could you give link to video you were referring to that you say mentioned an asteroid event for Sept. 23 2015? I thought you were referencing the video in my comment that you were replying to which is this:

http://www.timetobelieve.com/2016/03/messiah-sign-in-nibiru-next-week/

I spoke to that one in my last comment above separately from Natan's interview video re: his NDE (Obama as God, etc.)

 

That was "Obama as Gog" (not God)

 

I apologize that I replied to the wrong post, I should have replied to the second one. Go to around 11:45 and they talk about the asteroid, they are referring to last September. It seems as though they have been correct on other predictions though, so I do find it to be very interesting.
(I am confusing myself at this point....)

 

Okay.....looks like they are referring to September of this year, 2016, yet to come....not 2015....5776....for the asteroid mentioned in the codes they are speaking of.

 

Okay....kinda confusing since Hebrew calendar 5776, on the Gregorian calendar, contains two Septs....the one beginning in 2015 begins on Sept. 14 and the sept. of 2016 goes on to Oct. 2!!

 

Since Natan's NDE explicitly calls Obama Gog and says that Obama will be the one to do something that precipitates all the other nations to come against Israel then the thought has been offered that for so many nations to get organized, together, in any short amount of time, then such a uniting force for such an agreement by so many at once could very well come through the "auspices" of the United Nations.....in today's UN history itself is a great hater of Israel.

Now today there is this real concern about how Obama, in his last wobbling months of control, with his personal desire of ongoing revenge against Mr. Netanyahu, is planning perhaps just this "breach of security" as mentioned in the Natan/Rabbi interview.

So there is this interesting article today for alerting Israel to watch out for just how Obama will act.....even, again, acting from behind, using others to carry out his dirty intentions:

Is Obama planning his revenge on Netanyahu?

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Po...bama-planning-his-revenge-on-Netanyahu-451162

"During his final year in the White House, US President Barack Obama is preparing a metaphorical roadside IED for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. It cannot be that the tainted relations between the two leaders will not end with Obama exacting some sweet revenge."

This week, the New York Times brought the fraught Obama-Netanyahu relationship back into the headlines when the paper expounded on the US president's possible future revenge against the Israeli leader that will be served up cold in the form of a UN Security Council resolution on the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

Several officials have said that Obama has grown so frustrated with trying to revive Middle East peace talks that he may lay down his own outline for an Israeli-Palestinian two-state solution, in the form of a resolution in the United Nations Security Council, the Times reported.

“There will be a great temptation to do something in the final year. “For a president who came out faster and more aggressively on the Middle East than any of his predecessors, there is a gnawing sense of incompletion and perhaps even failure,” Aaron David Miller, a vice president at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, told the Times last month.

Israel's former envoy to the UN Ron Prosor says that in recent days there are meetings in the White House on how to end
Obama's second term and discussions are taking place on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as well.

"I believe that a US proposal for a UN Security Council Resolution is just one idea that was floated. The idea of an independent draft US resolution seems unlikely to me because the Americans are not interested in leading the negotiating process," Prosor said.

"It seems like a more concrete concern that the US will not use its veto in the Security Council to stop French or other countries' proposals on the conflict," he said.

Prosor added that in his opinion to bring the sides to the negotiating table by force is a mistake and is unlikely because "it will not bring peace."

.......Alon Pinkas, Israel's former consul-general to New York, argues that a US move at the council is only one option of many that it can exercise.

"The feeling in Israel that the Obama revenge is imminent stems from the Israeli illusion that we interest Obama and occupy him."

Towards the end of the article they have to quote a more leftist, "peace at any cost" type, like so many of our whistle past the graveyard RINO types here, but the emphasis should be on the obsessive desire of Obama's need for revenge......cowardly hiding his own real intent and trying to stand again on the sidelines while using other nations to do his dirty work and then blame them since he wants a fake legacy of "peace maker"......in the Middle East and as well as relations with our long time traditional allies we've seen anything but!

 

The one caution I throw out there is whether Natan's naming of Obama came from the Rabbi at an earlier time when Natan was telling him of his vision and while he could have used the US in his discussion, the Rabbi assumed it was Obama, because of Obama's hatred towards Israel. For all we know it could be our next president even though he names Obama.

 

I would have perhaps assumed something like that but he was questioned several times by the other Orthodox Jews at the school there about any other influences or personal background in their own scriptures, laws, traditions, etc. and repeatedly stated that he was told this scenario with that specific name only during this experience that included many things he had been previously ignorant of. Did not have a background otherwise to know such things. The Rabbi also questioned him a couple of times about being told that exact name after he volunteered it during his own retelling, and unless you might think this Rabbi was disingenuous or had some ulterior motive, which I don't due to his own background, there is reason to believe this was, at least this portion, an authentic expression of his experience. There was also the leading body language expert with a particular expertise in deception detection, on the other video, who took into consideration that the boy had spoken to this Rabbi earlier but explained the significance of Natan’s pronounced switch from first-person to third-person. “Consistently, throughout the video, he moved from first person to third person, from memory to interpretation. There is no doubt that when he says ‘I saw’, they are truthful statements.”

And there was also the dream of the other Jewish young man that had occurred completely separate from and prior to Natan's experience where this Rabbi was not involved. This 15 year old had his dream on Rosh Hashanah. He said though that he was not told the name, Obama, but rather was given an image of him in his dream and knew who he was. He adds an additional "fact" that it would be John Kerry who would tell Iran to launch the nuclear weapon....not too far fetched! The rest, re: all the many nations that would come against Israel and that the IDF would not be able to hold off the enemies for more than a couple of days, etc. was similar. This one mentions Tel Aviv as going up in flames which I believe the Rabbi Bible Code expert distinguishes as being the secular center while Jerusalem was the spiritual center.

Anyway interesting in those who are chosen to be given the things for the Jews to watch out for....even if it's only a small group who may be interested....just as in other parts of the world and other religious faiths.

Who knows for sure....we shall see. But I have no doubt of Obama's deep (probably pathological) instincts for personal revenge....as witnessed during his time of operation so far.

 

The one thing to note in Nathan's NDE is that it's after the global war is well underway, before he speaks of Obama and the 70 nations attacking Israel (if my memory servers me well). So something starts it and one can assume that Israel may nuke Iran, before Obama leads an attack on Israel. Much prayer is needed.

 

Apparently this "war" is said to have begun 9/11/15.....the day when congress okayed the deal allowing Iran to continue their nuke program with full knowledge of their attentions against Israel....along with 150 billion given them to continue their terrorist arms support of Hamas and Hezbollah....again against Israel.

This war, segmented as it is and mentioned this way by Pope Francis, has begun with everything in its place for further escalation.

The difference in Mr. Yague's scenario for Gog and Magog war (which he says is not a global war) is that he has it taking place in Europe=Spain/Pyrenees (since it mentions the "mountains of Israel") since as he states the 10 lost tribes of Israel that came from the Northern Jewish kingdom had been dispersed into that area in history as he asks the question "who is currently my people Israel" which Yague says is actually the 2 tribes + Levi (of the 12) of the kingdom of Judah which mainly make up the state of Israel as is referred to today. So the invasion of "Israel" gets misinterpreted he says. This invasion (which Yague says happens quickly) is of an alliance of Russia (Magog) and Arab nations into Europe up to the Pyrenees . He has the invasion being ordered by the Antichrist at the time...iow, Russia (Putin?) is given the order to invade by the Antichrist which he posits as the UN or the 4th kingdom of Daniel. Yague has the invasion occurring around Aug. 24, 2016 and this would happen immediately after, or in conjunction with the Pope's visit to Moscow. It is rumored by those with some connection to those in the Vatican that there is in the planning a visit to Moscow by the Pope in August! He doesn't speak to the "state of Israel" itself (as those two tribes are referred to today)...what happens there. So should that state of Israel be taken care of first with just a remnant remaining after the predicted very short war of destruction (lasting only 2 weeks) by the nations who hate Israel? So as far as that "state" of Israel is concerned, and according to Natan's NDE, it would be some transaction by Obama (perhaps through the UN) that would give the signal for the very short (two weeks per Natan and the other Jewish young man's dream) but vicious attack against them. So they would naturally see Obama as "Gog" in that part of the war against Israel. Would that short termed attack signal the invasion of Europe at same time or what Yague says is the Gog war? So if Obama is involved by somehow enabling the UN to give the ultimate command for the Gog invasion of Europe it would seem that he instigates the move by Gog/Magog and then is identified with Gog in history. Thus Yague has Magog being the land area of Russia with the obvious person, Gog, then being Putin! And up to now it seems that Obama has been giving Putin everything he needs for control in the Arab lands as well as his invasion plans for Europe (challenging NATO, etc. with no real response against his actions) by really doing nothing of any count to stop him. We are already seeing a type or preparation for a full fledged invasion/war in Europe via the setting up of the terrorists among the Arab immigrants into Europe. They are being stationed while Putin is testing the waters for further aggression into Europe. And after this Magog invasion the enemies of Israel will fall upon the mountains (Pyrenees in Yague's scenario) and God will punish them and I suppose that would occur in God's time where there is Justice only (as stated in the messages of the Divine Mercy before He comes as the just judge)....After the Warning. So if the invasion of Europe by the Russian and Arab forces occurs in August and Yague's Warning occurring in November then it is a rather short war before God's justice takes over and punishes His enemies and enemies of Israel, giving Israel a new beginning.

At least one way to reconcile the NDE and dream scenario for the State of Israel and Mr. Yague's scenario (with Garabandal's predictions) for the invasion of Europe by Communism!

 

I wouldn't be so quick to attach the Gog label to Putin. Russia is becoming more open to Christianity while the NATO countries are doing their utmost to suppress it at home through anti-Christian legislation and abroad via the UN and their aid agencies. If it hadn't been for Putin, Obama's JV team would already be ruling Syria with Libya not far behind. You can't blame Putin for spreading "hope and change" or "freedom and democracy" to Syria or Libya. That's all Obama and McCain's handiwork.

 

Just gave the scenarios offered by those involved in the thread's topic. It's the Cosmos that agrees....better correct it...ha! Nothing personal. Mr. Putin can always prove the stars and planets wrong.