Verne is still a member of this forum and I am sure checks in from time to time. I am sure he would be quite happy to know we are keeping him in our prayers.
Hi Fatima, I still can't find that message, either at the "godspeaks" site or on scribd. I hope someone will provide a link to the version which contains it. I see that the "godspeaks" site has a few more recent messages scattered about, but the 5/4/07 one should be in the book.
sorry - got the date wrong. Here it is: 5-14-07 P.M. Luke 2:51-52. And he went with them and came to Nazareth and was subject to them. And his mother kept all these words in her heart. And Jesus advanced in wisdom and age and grace with God and men. My son, ponder these words carefully. I was subject to my Mother Mary and my foster father St. Joseph. I, who am the creator of all that is seen and unseen, chose to humble myself and be subjected to my creation. I chose in humility to be subjected to my Blessed Mother Mary for 9 months in her womb and 30 years in her household. Who are you, then, not to show honor, respect, and be subjected to my Mother? If I, your Lord and Master, was subject to my Mother, then explain to me, how can you in pride, not be subjected to her? Without my grace, you are a sinner condemned to hell. My grace is what allows you to have a relationship with your creator. Ponder another question: Is there more humility in approaching me directly, or through my Blessed Mother Mary’s intercession? It takes more humility to approach your Lord and Master through the intercession of my Blessed Mother. You realize your unworthiness without God. Just as you cannot come to my Father without my mediation, so you truly cannot come to me without my Blessed Mother’s intercession. Approach your Lord and Savior through the mediation of my Blessed Mother, and you give me greater honor and glory. She is the Immaculate One, the woman of Revelation 12, who was conceived without sin. She is the mediatrix of all my graces to mankind. Just because other denominations and some Catholics deny this teaching, does not change the truth of it. Just as many of my disciples left me, after I proclaimed the doctrine of the Eucharist John 6:61-67, so many leave my church, after the proclamation of my Mother being the mediatrix of all graces. Pride tells you, I have no need for Mother Mary’s intercession. My answer to those people who claim this false teaching is, if my Blessed Mother was good enough for Jesus Christ, true God and true man, then why is my Mother not good enough for you? There is a final question for you to ponder. I will not answer it for you at this moment. Ask your brother Cletus. The era of peace and the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary are the same event. If you are not consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, can you enter the era of peace? You cannot have the era of peace without the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. (Cletus’s answer) The Word of the Lord.
Verne's first posted message say's it so simple. It seems to be a message for all of us at this time. 10/21/06 A.M. Message Today I went to confession and I received a message from Jesus. John 6:37 “All that the Father giveth to me shall come to me: and him that cometh to me, I will not cast out.” John 6:39” Now this is the will of the Father who sent me: that of all that he hath given me, I should lose nothing; but should raise it up again in the last day.” I am your savior. I have forgiven your sins. Everything you need I have given you. WHEN YOU CONSECRATE YOURSELF TO ME DAILY, I AM PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY AND YOU FROM THE ATTACK OF SATAN. Pray my Blessed mother’s rosary, wear the scapular, use holy water, and wear the blessed medals especially the crucifix blessed by Father. These medals were given to help protect you and remind you of my presence. Continue to go to confession and receive holy communion. In the eucharist, you are receiving me and also the Holy Trinity because we are one Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. I will protect you and your family in the future because I am Jesus your creator and your savior, as long as you remain in sanctifying grace. Your past is forgiven. Read Philippians 4:13 “Forgetting the things that are behind and stretching forth myself to those that are before.” Your past sins are forgiven, I will not remember them. Why should you? Satan throws doubt in your mind, I do not. Please remember to say Jesus I trust in you. You need to learn to trust in me more. When you trust in me, all things are possible with God. I will always be there for you.
Because our Lords messages to Verne speak so loudly for our times, I am going to bring them forward for our strength and wisdom. 09/26/07 My son this is a message to clear up confusion in your mind. Remember there are many voices in this world trying to deceive you. Not every voice which claims to speak the word of God is from God. For my word states: Dearly beloved, believe not every spirit: but try the spirits if they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus is not of God. And this is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh: and he is now already in the world. You are of God, little children, and have overcome him. Because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. I John 4:1-4. Read I John 2:22. Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father and the Son. Read I John 2:18. Little children, it is the last hour: and as you have heard that Antichrist cometh, even now there are become many Antichrists: whereby we know that it is the last hour. My son as my word clearly states, you have been in the last days, since my church began. In every generation, false prophets and heresies have risen up to deceive mankind. Your generation is no different. You know you are in the last days because of the appearance of the spirit of antichrist. He has been manifested since his rebellion against my Father. The spirit of antichrist is Satan, who is the father of lies. Prior to my coming, he was not referred to as the spirit of antichrist, because the Christ had not yet appeared on earth. After my ascension into heaven, Satan has been described as the spirit of antichrist because he is against me. Notice I John 4:3 states: he is now already in the world and verse 4 states: You are of God little children. And have overcome him. Because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. When these words were written, my children, had already overcome the spirit of antichrist, who is Satan himself. I John 4:1-4 need to be understood in its entire context. It refers to the spirit of antichrist. I John 2:18 refers to many antichrists. The understanding to this passage is I John 2:22. Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father and the Son. In John 8:44, I told the Jews, the devil is a liar and the father thereof. Any person who is against me is being led by the spirit of antichrist and is an antichrist. If you deny that I am the Christ who came in the flesh, you are led by the spirit of antichrist and are an antichrist. Simply stated: antichrist is anti or against the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. A person led by the spirit of antichrist becomes an antichrist. I John 2:18 states: even now there are become many Antichrists. Throughout history there have been many souls, who fulfilled the criteria and were antichrists. Be careful who you label as an antichrist because Satan is a deceiver and you may be committing the sin of slander. The book of the Apocalypse is a vision of the sufferings, struggles, and triumph of my church. The prophet Daniel has many prophecies which correspond with the book of the Apocalypse. Daniel 12:9 states: And he said: Go, Daniel, because the words are shut up and sealed until the appointed time. My Holy Spirit will unseal the prophecies and give an understanding at the appointed time. Many are prophesying your generation is the fulfillment of these prophecies. Pay close attention to the words of your Popes. Both of your last Popes have stated you are in the battle of Apocalypse 12 between the woman and the dragon. The woman can have several meanings. It is both my church and my blessed Mother who are fighting against the dragon, who is Satan. The third part of the stars of heaven who are cast to the earth, represents the clergy, cardinals, bishops, and priests, who are following the dragon. Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI have warned the faithful, not to be seduced by the dragon. Another spiritual meaning from this passage refers to the great battle which is taking place between the woman and the red dragon of masonry and communism. My blessed Mother’s appearance at Fatima was a sign from heaven to mankind to not be seduced by the lies of masonry and communism. My blessed mother appeared prior to the Bolshevik revolution in 1917 to warn the world of these errors. This struggle is still continuing today. My blessed Mother is the prophet of your time. Pay close attention to her approved apparitions and pay close attention tothe Holy Father’s teachings. My Holy Spirit is opening the book of Daniel and the Apocalypse through my blessed Mother’s teachings, my Holy Church’s teachings, and the messages from my messengers of today. Remember Amos 3:7: For the Lord God doth nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets. The message from 9/25/07 describes the Fatima consecration in more detail to you. As explained to you, on 9/25/07 by my Father, masonry and communism are once again gathering forces in your world. The destruction of these forces will be accomplished by the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. My son, I ask you how are you protected from these evil forces? By receiving the seal of the living God. Read Ezekiel 9:6: Utterly destroy old and young, maidens, children and women: but upon whomsoever you shall see Thau, kill him not. And begin ye at my sanctuary. So they began at the ancient men who were before the house. Now read Apocalypse 7:3: Saying: hurt not the earth nor the sea nor the trees, till we sign the servants of our God in their foreheads. What is the seal of the living God? It is my life residing in your soul. It is sanctifying grace. You are sealed by the Holy Spirit at baptism and confirmation. Those who claim you need a special seal from God to be protected, be wary of. 2 Corinthians 1;21, 22. Now he that confirmeth us with you in Christ and that hath anointed us, is God: Who also hath sealed us and given the pledge of the Spirit in our hearts. Again re-read I John 4:4: You are of God, little children, and have overcome him. Because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. These children of mine had already overcome the spirit of antichrist in their day. The same teaching has not changed. When you use the sign of the cross, you are also protecting yourself with the seal of the living God. It was through my cross the power of Satan, sin, and death was defeated. Each holy eucharist partaken increases my Divine life within your soul. My people where is your faith? If you have sanctifiying grace in your soul, you are protected from the spirit of antichrist. Do not let Satan deceive you otherwise. If God be for us, who is against us? Romans 8:31. My son, a day is soon coming when Apocalypse chapters 13 and 14 will be fulfilled by the spirit of antichrist manifesting himself through a particular person called the antichrist. Do not concern yourself with this day. Many are deceived by Satan by concentrating on whom this person may be and not fulfilling my mission for their souls. Each generation has thought their generation was the fulfillment of these times. Let my Holy Spirit lead my church and your soul. Be forewarned! You are living in the most sinful generation in the history of your world. Your generation has been warned again and again. My holy word gives you examples of my justice: the flood of Noah, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the exile of the children of Israel. Your generation is no different. If mankind does not repent and continues to reject my mercy, I repeat my Father’s words to you from yesterday. I will allow another World War and I will allow the appearance of the man of sin in your generation. The fulfillment of the Apocalypse will take place with a literal one world government and my people grazed and marked by the authorities. There will be one man who will lead this Masonic communistic government as the antichrist. Many messengers have warned my people of these events for many years. But my people refuse to listen and take heed to my warnings. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao have been types of this antichrist. But my faithful, have faith and trust in my word. My Spirit with the brightness of my coming, will destroy this spirit of antichrist with his followers and bring about the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. A further warning, Apocalypse 19:20 tells the fate of the false prophet and the antichrist. These two are cast alive into the pool of fire burning with brimstone. Do not accuse anyone of being the false prophet or the antichrist because their fate is sealed. Satan will not reveal their identity until allowed by Almighty God. My Holy Spirit will identify these men at the proper time, not your time. For when you falsely accuse another soul of being either the false prophet or the antichrist, you offend your God. All those falsely accused are souls that need my salvation. Pray for their salvation. It is your fear and lack of trust in me, which causes you to falsely accuse someone. Watch and be ready. Read accurately the signs of the times. Great changes are upon mankind. My church and earth will be purified and mankind will truly know I am Jesus Christ who once came in the flesh and who is the only Savior and redeemer of mankind. All who reject me are following the spirit of antichrist and will be cast into hell forever. Do not let this be your final destination. Do not be deceived, I will not be mocked much longer. These words are from Jesus Christ to his people.
Maybe someone could help me with this one. After reception of the holy eucharist, a word was given to me, flee sodom and gomorrah. any ideas on this? thanks, verne
Hi, Verne; I would look at your physical living situation, and the people around you. Seek in prayer what / how you are to flee. The Lord will not leave you in the dark!
Verne, Just before reading this post of yours I've just read the last message from Luz de Maria in Revelaciones Marianas. Her messages are getting extremelly sobering. It is in Spanish but I've found the same page translated into English here. It will soon be posted in English, I hope, since they seem to keep it up to date. Well I wonder if this pieces of her message will give you some clue: Amados hijos, los Países del Norte serán divididos a causa de un gran terremoto y un tsunami, la ciudad pecadora será acrisolada bajo las aguas. ... La densidad del pecado impide al hombre mirar más allá de sus ojos, las montañas se trasladarán al mar y del mar emergerán nuevas montañas que permanecían ocultas. La Naturaleza arroja el pecado que se mantiene sobre ella y desea renovarse por sí misma. El hombre niega el cumplimiento de los anuncios de Mi Madre, por temor, el que invade a quien no cumple Mi Voluntad. Translation: My beloved, the countries of the North will be devided due to a great earthquake and a tsunami, the sinful city will be refined under the waters. ... The density of sin prevents man from looking beyond his eyes, the mountains will be moved into the sea and from within the sea new mountains will emerge, which remained hidden. Nature casts off sin that lays on it/her and wishes to be renewed by itself. Man denies the fulfillment of the announcements of My Mother, because of fear, which fills those who don't do My Will. I don't know where do you live but if there is a big city nearby, a really big and sinful city it might be the time to move out. The rest of Luz de Maria message is much more important and more spiritual. I hope it will be posted soon in the page I indicated above. Peace!
Greetings Verne. Good to hear from you once again. I don't know what it means, but I will continue to pray for you and hopefully our Lord will be more specific. I know you don't live to far from 'sin city' in Vegas, and the many places like Sodom and Gomorrah in California, which according to Pedro Regis messages will soon succumb great disasters. Not sure where you used to live in the Minneapolis area is much better.
quote="Verne dagenais, post: 73243, member: 4011"]Maybe someone could help me with this one. After reception of the holy eucharist, a word was given to me, flee sodom and gomorrah. any ideas on this? thanks, verne[/quote] Verne, Continue in prayer and "ask so that you may receive Knock and the door will be opened to you".. Also ask, Who is like unto God”? AND, who is not like God around me in my life? Deacon John Martinez personal contemplation #6 Satan continues to colossally embroil the world in evil, but must remain somewhat on the sidelines in readiness to cast the dice against a weary humanity. He cannot be given complete authority for his evil to fully plague mankind until God the Father gives His final permission. Satan’s objective, of course, is to destroy each one of us and to take our souls to hell for eternity. He has a surprise coming when God’s children, through the titanic efforts of Our Lady and the Holy Spirit, will rise up like St. Michael in heaven, uttering that renowned battle cry: “Who is like unto God”? by honoring the ONLY God and Michael’s glorious spirit, with that cry of passion and loyalty: “Who is like unto God”? Keep this close to your heart Verne as you search do not fear, for God is with you! Deacon John Martinez personal contemplation #6 One of the areas I want to address today is the “spirit of fear”. Understandably, many of us are concerned, apprehensive and fearful for our families, our livelihood and our survival. This is a logical human response to the chaos and turmoil developing around us. However, let us note that “fear” is an entity that has no power over you or me. The only power that “fear” has is the power you give to “it”. Fear can be likened to a tiny cockroach. With God’s grace, rebuke it in Jesus’ name and through the Holy Rosary, and we will be more than conquerors of this crippling entity. God and Our Lady are with us and no evil can hurt us unless we allow it. I will pray for your discernment on this!
Hi Verne. Nice to see you here again. I don't kniw what to make of the message but if you pray about it longer and you feel the urge to leave where you are, then do so.
welcome back, Verne....sit, wait and discern. God will lead you more in prayer, He always does. That was just an attention getter.....continue to listen. God Bless!
Thank you for your responses and prayers. Here is my answer to this dilemma. Live in God's divine will and he will protect you where you are. One of the most famous modern examples is the priests who survived the atomic bomb in Hiroshima. Another is a friend of Cletus who lived in New Orleans. The Lord told him to stay in his home during hurricane Katrina. He did and his home was one of the few left standing in his neighborhood. My family and I moved to Yuma, Az which is on the Mexican border about 2 months ago. This is where God wants us currently against many people's logic. Psalm 91 gives us the answer. vs 9-11 and 14: Because you have made the Lord your refuge, the most high your habitation, no evil shall befall you, no scourge shall come near your tent. For he will give his angels charge of you to guard you in all your ways. Because he cleaves to me in love, I will deliver him, I will protect him, because he knows my name. Each of us who is in sanctifying grace is the habitation of the Most High and the temple of the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us the angels of the Lord will take care of us because the Holy Trinity lives in our souls. God will protect us because we love and know him. I just do not take God at his word. If I would just claim God's promises, like Jesus said with faith as a grain of mustard seed, the Lord God will take care of my family and I wherever we live. For he is the Creator of everything and all of creation is under his will. If I would pray the Our Father prayer as Jesus taught it, my Father in heaven will provide for all of my needs and the needs of all his children. St Paul says in Philippians 4:19: And my God will supply every need of yours according to his riches in glory in Christ Jesus. Matthew 7:7, and 11: Ask, and it will be given you, seek, and you will find; knock and it will be opened to you. If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him! I have found, just like a child asks a parent for a specific toy, so our Father in Heaven wants us to specifically ask him for requests in prayer. Our Father in heaven wants to pour out his graces on all of us, if we would only ask him. Finally here is a grace from God I wish to share with each of you. The picture on the website God speaks will you listen is important. This picture is more important than the messages. The original painting was blessed by a holy priest and there were subsequent healings when people prayed to God the Father while looking at the picture. Each book had a picture which was blessed. Cletus told me each picture on the internet has the same blessing as the original painting. So if the Lord leads you, download a copy of this picture and keep it in your home. Cletus also told me this picture will be valuable during the time of plagues. Praying with faith to God the Father will bring spiritual healing and according to his will physical healing and protection in the times of plagues. God bless all of you. I just though it was important to share this with all of you. Please share with others.
Thanks Verne for your insightful message. It is all true. Our Lord could have given us the Divine Mercy image by itself, but he chose to have the inscription "Jesus I Trust in You" below the sacred image. Granted, even if we have spent our whole life believing in Jesus, it is a whole nother step to put your whole tust in Him when we have always put so much of it on ourselves. But this is exactly what our Lord has been revealing to us...... we will depend only on him if we are to surrvive! Verne, my in-laws live in Yuma. They are teachers there. Hope all is going well in your new home.
Verne, thanks for sharing your answer to your dilemma. Could you explain what you mean by "a word was given to me"? Is the "answer" you shared also "a word given to you"? Would you share with us how do both words (apparently opposing) match for you? How do you discern? Thank you Verne!
In the first instant, after holy communion the words flee sodom and gomorrah were like other messages from God. It was like someone talking in my mind. The other was from prayer and thinking. I just wanted to share some things I have learned. Hope this helps.
