GARABANDAL INFO & ANSWERS

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  1. Glenn

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  2. Glenn

    Glenn Garabandal Expert

    TUESDAY, AUGUST 22, 1961:
    Padre Don Jose Ramon Garcia de la Riva

    A REMARKABLE "SPANISH
    COUNTRY PASTOR" ENTERS
    THE LIVING STORY OF
    GARABANDAL

    Don Jose Ramon Garcia de la Riva went up to Garabandal for the first time on this day. He was then pastor of the parish of Our Lady of Sorrows at Barro, a small village some 38 miles away. The name of this priest of the Asturias was to remain profoundly linked to Garabandal.

    A good photographer and an amateur movie maker, he took some beautiful films and some remarkable photos of the visionaries and sites. He published his 'Memoirs of a Spanish country parish Priest', in memory of his numerous trips to San Sebastian de Garabandal, from 1961 to 1968.


    The very day of his arrival in the village, the members of the "Special Commission," who were also there on this August 22, obtained that the church be closed to the visionaries in ecstasy. Four days later, Msgr. Doroteo Fernandez published his first Note in the Official Bulletin of
    the diocese, forbidding priests henceforth from going to Garabandal. This was above all a pastoral act of prudence.

    [Excerpted from 'Garabandal' Book, page 95.]
     
  3. Glenn

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    TO OUR FRIENDS IN MEXICO ...
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    COMING TO AMERICA IN THE FALL !
     
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  4. Glenn

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    Today in Garabanda history August 23,1961

    The Apostolic Administrator from Santandar, Bishop Doroteo Fernandez, closes the doors to the church ,so apparitions can not happen inside. His reasoning is that overflow crowding is leading to damage of the church. I mention this only for the more important fact of “OBEDIENCE” that Mary taught to the girls. Read Conchita’s account of why below.

    Obedience
    The virtue of obedience is one of the greatest indicators for determining the authenticity of alleged apparitions. According to the Saints, it is the only virtue the devil cannot imitate (who, by his nature, is disobedient), and is therefore the hallmark of authentic apparitions.

    In the apparitions of Garabandal the examples of obedience are so numerous and varying, that one can say that it permeated from all facets of the girls' lives. Most notably, the Blessed Virgin instructed the children on the importance of obedience, especially to the Bishop. In fact, She told the children to obey the Bishop even before her; "She taught us to obey the Bishop before her." (Interview with Conchita, 1972). What is most striking, is even the Blessed Virgin Herself, in the apparitions, obeyed the commands of the bishop, as detailed in the account below;

    Conchita, interview, 1973: "At the beginning, we used to go into the Church (editor's note; The Blessed Virgin often led the girls into a local church, where She would recite the Rosary together with them). But then the people, because they wanted to be first when we extended our arms, would make a big disturbance. So the bishop said we could not go into the church anymore. Then the Virgin, from the time the bishop said not to go into the church, never would let us in there again." Conchita recounts that, from that day forward, the Blessed Virgin no longer entered the Church, but instead remained outside.

    The children learned from the example of the Virgin, and followed it themselves. The girls were not only obedient and docile to the bishops, but also to their parents, interrogations by doctors, physical exams, psychological tests, criticisms and slander, and so forth. They went along with everything imposed on them. Joseph Pelletier notes; "This simple unquestioning obedience to the commission manifested by the girls on this occasion is typical of their attitude and conduct toward the Church and clergy all during the apparitions" (jp53)
    In 1965, in response to those eager to spread the message of Garabandal, Conchita writes; "This is agreeable to the Blessed Virgin. She is very pleased to have us work to spread the message. That is what She wants. But she wants us to obey the Church, for in this way we will give greater glory to God. She will provide time for the message to be spread with the permission of the Church."

    Below : the girls pray at the closed door of the church.

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  5. Glenn

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    1kiss_62.jpg 1kiss_62.jpg This day in Garabandal History: AUGUST 23, 1961:



    UNPARALLELED AND LIVING PRESENCE
    OF THE "CRUCIFIX" IN GARABANDAL


    Their small crucifix in their hands,
    the visionaries in ecstasy before the closed door of the church.


    Within the limits allowed by the Note from Msgr. Doroteo Fernandez and never in opposition to them, the church of Garabandal remains a major pole of the apparitions. In each one of them, or almost, the visionaries returned there to pray before the closed door. There, on several occasions, the Angel even gave them Communion.

    On the day following the interdiction we know, the girls, in ecstasy before the closed door and on the advice of their Vision, suddenly decided to get a crucifix from their homes . . . except Mari-Cruz (for personal family reasons). It is interesting to note that this invitation and inspiration of "wearing a crucifix" happened on the very day of the Feast, then celebrated on August 23 in the universal Church, of St. Philip Benizi who was one of the seven founders of the "Servites of Mary." At the moment of his death he had cried out: "Give me my book!" (that is, "my crucifix!"). Henceforth, the visionaries in ecstasy would systematically be equipped with one. This gesture, in its clear reference to the Passion, takes all its meaning in Garabandal, most especially with the second and ultimate Message (June 18, 1965) of which, as we shall see, it will be precisely the final word.

    During the apparitions, the visionaries would present their crucifix to be kissed, sometimes kiss it themselves, or make the sign of the cross with it over those present, notably over those who, very often in secret prayer, "were asking for proofs" . . . The children also made the sign of the cross with it over persons lying down and asleep, on the forehead of the sick, on the heads of beds (twice if two persons slept in them), over the vehicles of visitors, etc.

    The kiss of the crucifix played an immense role at San Sebastian de Garabandal, giving rise in those benefited from this, to profound emotions, healings and even to remarkable conversions.
    [Excerpted from 'Garabandal' Book, page 95.]
     
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  6. Niklas

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    Hi Glenn, I have been interested in this for some years though I do not have FB. Could we arrange this somehow?
    Thanks, Niklas
     
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  7. Glenn

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    Private message me here your name , I will enter it into the raffle.
     
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  8. ComeSoon!

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    I sent this link to my Dad today. Due to his comments on the state of things in our country and world and Church, I have mentioned Garabandal a couple times. While he doesn't comment further. At least he might know much bigger things are at play and coming soon. He once said, if all these things are.....he can then handle watching his wife (Mom) get progressively worse toward death/great freedom/peace/reunions. While this knowledge doesn't make watching her easier, it does offer consolation and real hope in things out of our control.

    Glenn, thank you for continually reminding all of us of these things hopefully to come sooner than we realize.
     
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  9. Luan Ribeiro

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    When the Warning occurs even people of non-Christian religions will regard it as a sign coming exclusively from Jesus Christ or some of these people will regard it as a sign related to their own non-Christian beliefs?
     
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  10. Glenn

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    January 2, 1965 Conchita said:
    "The warning is something supernatural and will not be explained by science. It will be seen and experienced by all men all over the world and will be a direct work of God. It will be very awesome. However, if men die from it, it will be only from the emotional shock of seeing it. It will be a correction of the conscience of the world. Those who do not know Christ (non-Christians) will believe it is a warning from God."
     
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  13. kristian

    kristian New Member

    Glenn, I want to let you know that I adore and applaud you for this blog. You've managed to accommodate many assumptions, conclusions, speculations etc... with patience and tolerance that I can only revere. I pray you continue to stay "real" because you give people like me hope,strength, and faith that our Church is Christ's.
     
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  14. Glenn

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    Thank you Kristian for your kind and encouraging words.
    In our Blessed Mother's service, Glenn
     
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  18. poor Sinner

    poor Sinner New Member

    my friends,

    in this moment, i am in garabandal, at the pines above the town.
    it‘s awonderful and peaceful atmosphere!
    you can not describe it!
     
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  19. Glenn

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    Say a prayer for my Apostolate work please, thank you.
     
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