Glenn, many are predicting 2038 for miracle due to another prophecy of dates falling on days of the week....That would have Conchita well into her 90's....what are your thoughts on this?
“BUT ABOVE ALL, WE MUST LEAD GOOD LIVES” https://ourlady.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Good-lives-Pelletier.pdf
Actually she would be 89, in 2038. I sure hope its not going to be that far away, the world is already becoming a more evil, selfish, Godless planet.
Miguel González testimony, Conchita’s brother. http://www.stjosephpublications.com/download/PDF/036%20-%20Miguel%20%20Gonz%C3%A1lez,%20Conchita%E2%80%99s%20Brother.pdf
Serafín González testimony, Conchita’s Brother http://www.stjosephpublications.com...Z-Hzmdp9zVPFEML9hfFb55S_kM6TL1LgLTe0AbSFrAlFE
I disagree veemently with you in this. Let’s wait and see. Noboby knows, but I have another sources that makes me stay in my position. The Warning will take place later than you imagine.
Pope Francis to visit Iraq in March . Any chance you could make a quick stop off in Moscow ??? https://www.wsj.com/articles/pope-francis-to-visit-iraq-in-march-11607353341
If the Holy Father being in Russia will happen just before the persecution, and if it is true that the Warning won't come this decade like so many other posters say. Then, provided he goes to Moscow like you want, we would have to endure several many years of tribulation and Christian persecution. Glenn has there ever been any hint of how long will that Christian persecution last before the warning comes? I only know they said it will come when things are at their worst. But everybody I read regarding these events assumes they happen very quickly in less than one year. For instance if the warning would come next year(which it will not), we would only have a few months of worldwide communism. Ex: Miracle in April, and Warning same year, so only about 2 or 3 months. Everybody seems eager that these horrible events happen already, but I am relatively new at Garabandal and at trying to live a good Catholic life, I don't feel that much prepared for any of this, I haven't got a scapular yet, or found any kissed sacramentals. I prefer if it's true that all of this happens in the 30s(which also makes more sense from a political standpoint) so I can at least live the message more. I haven't even talked much about Garabandal to people, I am still trying to figure out how to do it, only mentioned it to about 2 people total, I think, more or less.
Maybe send the video of Garabandal . Its easier and it would seem that you are simply passing on a video you think they may be interested in without seeming to pressure anyone.. and yet they will get the message and remember it. I did that to our on line prayer group. I've been trying to give them suttle hints.
SUNDAY, DECEMBER 8, 1963: Awakened by a mysterious interior uneasiness, Conchita went to the church at around 5:30 a.m. with her mother. Before the church doors, she fell into ecstasy . . . The Blessed Virgin first "wished me a happy feast day," adding these profound words (almost identical to those said, in 1858, to Bernadette in Lourdes): "You will not be happy on Earth, but, yes, you will be in Heaven!" She also revealed to her other "future events" about which the visionary was told "not to make known" . . . [Excerpt from 'Garabandal' Book, page 179]
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 1964: CONCHITA'S NEW LOCUTION: SHE IS TOLD THAT ST. MICHAEL WILL COME AGAIN . . . "JUNE 18TH, 1965!" During a locution that occurred on this December 8, 1964, the Blessed Virgin of Mount Carmel revealed to Conchita that she would have a new apparition of the Archangel St. Michael, on next June 18, (1965). (He would then deliver for the world the second and ultimate Message of Garabandal.) The visionary widely circulated this information. [Excerpt from 'Garabandal' Book, page 185]
First of all, I never said it would not happen this decade,just to be clear. We were not given the exact time & date ,but we were given 3 clues as to when the Warning is approaching soon. The three clues were after a Synod, (well we had one in 2019, and another is scheduled for 2022) also “when Communism comes again “and the global effects of Communism, especially religious persecution, and lastly the Pope returning from a visit to Moscow, Russia (and hostilities breaking out in Europe ). An excerpt from the German book "Finger of God" Mrs. (Christine) Bocabeille then asked Mari Loli: “If you are not allowed to tell me the exact year of the Warning, perhaps you could tell me approximately when it will happen.” “Yes it will be that time when the world will most need it.” “When is that?” “When Russia will unexpectedly and suddenly overrun and overwhelm a great part of the free world. God does not want this to happen so quickly. In any case the Warning will come when you will see that Holy Mass cannot be celebrated freely anymore; then it will be that the world will most need the intervention of God” This information from Mari Loli was contained in messages bearing her signature that were presented and published in 1970 by Fernand Corteville in his newsletter L'Impartial (No.31): In spite of continuing to see the Virgin, (during the Nights of the Screams) we saw a great multitude of people who were suffering intensely and screaming in terror. The Blessed Virgin explained to us that this great tribulation, which was not even the Chastisement, would come because a time would arrive when the Church would appear to be on the point of perishing. It would pass through a terrible trial. We asked the Virgin what this great trial was called and she told us it was “Communism”. So we can see a definite pattern here, but no specific amount of time between the events. My advice is to take Conchita's advice ,when she said: " “To guess at dates regarding the [prophesied] Miracle shows a lack of faith in the Blessed Virgin. Indeed, the energies expended on this are so much better spent on living the Message! “ (March 2013 My conversation with Conchita ) With all of the arguing over which of the different visionary’s is right, predicting dates, the future of our new Pope, the direction of the church, I've learned one thing, its all distracting, and detracting from our spiritual goals. The best advice I ever got was from Conchita ( when I asked her about the direction of all these things) ,she talked about what is most important, maintaining your spiritual life, (Confession, penance ,mass, communion, the rosary, the Morning Offering, etc.) and she said : " I surround myself with good people, pray and don't worry " .
Mari-Loli's 3-day journal written on April 19-20-21, 1967. ( Her death was April 20, 2009. ) Several years ago Julia Mazon, the mother of Mari-Loli, one of the four Garabandal visionaries, found some packed-away things long forgotten from the days of the apparitions and beyond. Among these precious objects was a journal Mari-Loli kept while making her retreat in Balmori, Spain, in April 1967. She was not quite 18 years old. Loli's writings are so deeply profound... never before read or published by anyone but what shines through is her simplicity and sincerity in such a way they cannot but help to increase the spiritual life of one's soul. Her intense desire to be so completely united with the Lord through the Holy Virgin Mary, is so overwhelming that she manages to capture her most intimate thoughts as she takes pen in hand to record them. Never did it cross her mind that one day her writings would shine out with tremendous hope not only to those who profess and try to do the will of God and yet fall so many times but to all humanity particularly the youth in the world. Therefore, I feel compelled to share them with you during this point in time: 1st Day - Spiritual Exercises - April 19, 1967 I am going to start my exercises in which our Lord and the most Holy Virgin will speak to me by means of Rev. Father Gustavo Morelos. I propose to listen with great love and confidence so that our Lord by these means will illuminate my life so I can walk down a righteous path. I desire that in these days of intense union with our Lord and the Blessed Virgin my spiritual ideas will become clear. Virgin Mary, grant that I through these exercises I may learn to love you as you deserve and wish to be loved. Please don't forsake me not even for an instant. I am so weak that I immediately stumble and fall. Do not permit Oh Lord, that at the final judgment you will ask me to give an account and find my hands empty. 2nd Day - First Talk - Summary of the Talk Regarding Meditations - April 20, 1967 In order to meditate well, it is necessary to keep your mind centered on the theme about which you are meditating because otherwise your imagination will wander to other things that have happened or you might want to do. Oh Virgin Mary! Help me to be holy and carry the small crosses that you send me with joy and resignation, so that all that I do I will do for the love of your Holy Son and you. Second Talk - "From Whom Do I Come?" To think that I am here because of an act of God's love towards me. This alone is enough for me to be good. So many beings in your imagination to whom you have not given life. Oh Lord! Thank you so much for having chosen me. Help me Lord, so that I can do everything well, and in that way you will be pleased in having selected me. Why Am I Here? Oh Lord! I know you have created me to be a saint. Help me to attain this title and try day by day to be more so, that my life may be a continuous act of love towards you. Lord, when I do not feel You near me, don't permit me to be dejected as I am now. Help me, otherwise I cannot have peace and interior joy. Where Am I Going? I know Lord that I have to go toward You. Help me so that this idea becomes engraved in my soul. I know this because it has been made know to me through the Holy Church. 3rd Day - Horror of Sin! - April 21, 1967 Lord do not permit me to lose the enormous grace you have given me due to an act of sin. May your grace increase in me each day more and more and may it never be taken away from my soul. It is so grand Lord, to think that you have a place for me in Heaven. Oh Lord! Help me to acquire it. I know that with my efforts alone I would be unable to do it, but with Your great love which You have for me You aide me so that one day I shall be able to sit in Your celestial glory. Resolutions At home do not get upset when nobody helps me with my homework, when I think it is not done properly. On the street, show myself agreeable with those who do me harm. This means humble myself so as not to belittle them. When I pray with God our Lord, the principal thing which is the fountain of all the other good acts must not be done routinely particularly when receiving Holy Communion during Holy Mass.
MARIA ROSATI, MARI-LOLI’S DAUGHTER, RECALLS SEVERAL INCIDENTS WHEN SHE WAS WITH HER MOTHER BEFORE SHE PASSED AWAY: "I remember that on this particular day, it was no different. We were chatting about nothing very important while I was sitting on an ottoman in front of her, and that my sister, Melanie, was standing up in the doorframe when my mother’s head snapped up and she let out a light sigh, a slight gasp and her eyes opened wide like she had been struck with an awareness. And then with a look of incredulity as if she had never considered the events before, she said to me: “Can you believe THE BLESSED MOTHER let me hold the Baby Jesus and Her Crown!” I was stunned when her eyes met mine, and then a few moments later she seemed to relax a bit, and she began to look almost self-conscious as I had seen her do in the past when she would be asked about the apparitions. I did not press her more, since she seemed shy about what had just occurred. It would be a few months later that my mother would address the apparitions to me once again. My mother’s disease had progressed to such an extent at this point that she was lying in the bed since she was in incredible pain. It was only about three weeks before she would pass away. This time, she placed her hand atop of mine, and looked me in the eyes, and asked me: “Why do you think THE BLESSED MOTHER would let me hold The Baby Jesus and Her Crown?” I share these words from my mother with you, in case there is a benefit in someone’s heart that this knowledge would increase their faith in THE MESSAGES OF OUR LADY OF GARABANDAL, in the understanding that Mari-Loli’s “cloud of doubt” was lifted and that she did remember, and did believe with certainty in what had happened to her before she died." ...MARIA ROSATI (DAUGHTER OF MARI-LOLI)
Mari Loli Interview Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayKUdVTMm04 Mari Loli Interview Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxbF1P60e0k
I can try your suggestion. It is a good idea, thank you Fede. My only problem would be about how to do that in person, since I don't tend to have that many online friends to chat with, and I am not really active in social media; I thought it would be easier for me to talk about it face to face. However there have been plenty of times when I might have had the chance to speak about Garabandal but I am not sure of where to start, since it's a long story. The other day someone was talking to me about another unapproved Marian aparition, one that seems to have a lot of followers but I don't exactly follow myself. And I thought it would be the perfect time to tell him about Garabandal, however I wasn't sure of how to even start. How do you talk about it to people around you? do you tell them the whole story from the very beginning? or you tell them only the Message of Mary? or you tell them the predictions first? maybe the supernatural aspects of it? Glenn every time I have asked you a question you have responded with what is known. You are an encyclopedia of Garabandal, a short answer would have probably suffice, but you went ahead and provided a lot of exact quotes and information to complement your reply. This is one of the many reasons I like to come back to this thread often, thank you! God bless you for all the effort you put into this.
THE “CALLS” OR JOYS. The Mysterious Calls described by Conchita When the hour was approximately the same as Sunday—the first day on which we had seen the vision—our families, who were now believing a lot, said to us, You should go to say the rosary in the Cuadro. And we told them, We haven’t been called yet. And they thought about this and said, But how are you called? An we answered that it was like an interior voice, but that we didn’t hear it with the ears, nor did we hear ourselves called by name. It is a JOY. (3) There are three calls. The first is a very little joy. The second is somewhat greater. At the third we become very excited and feel great happiness. And then she comes. “She went in haste to the Mountain”, Ch.4 pg. 72 I am going to insert here what was written in the early times of the apparitions by Father Ramón María Andreu S. J . an exceptional witness of the Garabandal events. It is to be pointed out that the calls occurred only when the Virgin was going to come, and never when it was simply a visit with the Angel. Father Andreu reported: “The phenomenon of the calls or interior touches from which the ecstasies arose happened to the four girls in the following way. They would say that there were always three calls. These could occur at the same time when they were together; they could occur at the same time when they were separated; they could occur at a time which was not the same even if they were together; they could occur to all four, to just one, or to several of them. The word call was originated by the girls themselves who talked like this: Today the Virgin did not "call" me. Today she "called" me. I have already had one "call" or two . . . It is not easy to describe the nature of the calls. The girls said they were like a joy from within, a clear and definite joy that was always present. It was as if the Virgin had said in the first call, Jacinta! and in the second, Jacinta, come! and in the third, Jacinta, run, run, run! But all this without audible words. The children hid the calls; and if they were not asked, or if they did not spontaneously mention them in some cases, they would not have been noticed. “She went in haste to the Mountain”, Ch.4 pg. 73 (Below: Conchita falls asleep awaiting her "calls".)