GARABANDAL INFO & ANSWERS

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  1. Glenn

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    Today in Garabandal History, AUGUST 12, 1961

    THE DECEASED PADRE LUIS AND THE "SABBATINE PRIVILEGE."
    THE SPIRITUAL PRESENCE OF ST. CLARE OF ASSISI ON THIS
    DAY OF HER LITURGICAL FEAST

    The Sabbatine Privilege, in its original form, was granted in the fourteenth century by the Blessed Virgin, after the grace of the Scapular to St. Simon Stock. The sixth General Superior of the Carmelites, who had just been chased away from the East by the Saracens, had begged Mary to help him. She then appeared to him promising him, at the same time as she gave him the gift of the Scapular, that every Carmelite wearing it would be spared the eternal fires.

    As for the Sabbatine Privilege, it was broadened later by the Church, thanks to Pope Paul V (1605-1621). The Blessed Virgin promised that all those who had venerated her constantly and who had worn the Scapular with devotion would be withdrawn from Purgatory on the first Saturday after their death.

    At Garabandal, one finds indeed the figure of a small mountain on one side of the Scapular that Our Lady of Mount Carmel wears on her right arm. This mountain (the "Muhraka") symbolizes the confrontation that occurred on Mount Carmel between Elijah and Baal's false prophets. A cross is drawn on the other side: a clear indication of the divine source of that famous sacramental.

    The Sabbatine Privilege was illustrated in a remarkable way on this August 12 at Garabandal. The four visionaries, as much in a state of ecstasy as in a normal state, had prayed a great deal after August 9, for the soul of the deceased Fr. Luis. They ceased to do so completely on this first Saturday after his death. The Blessed Virgin told the little girls that he was now in heaven. We know that Fr. Luis wore the scapular-medal of Our Lady of Mount Carmel.

    As for St. Clare of Assisi, how not detect her "spiritual presence" at San Sebatian de Garabandal on this day of her "natale"? Several amazing events occurring as much during her life as soon after her death, offer, indeed, a clear analogy with some of the many phenomena registered on this August 12, 1961, in the village. For example, this one noted by Don Valentin Marichalar: ". . . The girls in ecstasy saw stars with long tails. . ." In the first case (charismatically speaking) as in the second (according to a theological reflection -- Canon J. Porro), people understood that this symbolized the Holy Spirit, known to have dwelt fully in St. Clare's soul while she lived.


    From the book “Garabandal” pg 88
     
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    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

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  6. Glenn

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    NIGHT OF MONDAY, AUGUST 14 TO TUESDAY, AUGUST 15, 1961


    A WONDERFUL VIGIL IN PREPARATION
    FOR THE FEAST OF THE ASSUMPTION

    The "Vigils," so familiar to Christians during the first centuries and then fallen into disuse, emerged again, as luck would have it, at Garabandal. There was a great deal of commotion during these vigils, the girls moving from one place to another in the village and in the neighborhood.


    The vigil inaugurating the Feast of the Assumption on August 15, 1961, stands out among the most beautiful ones. It began at 2:45 a.m., when Conchita, Loli and Jacinta came out in ecstasy from Conchita's home.

    For the first time, they sang Aves, a Noel as well, and a few "Mananitas" or short musical compositions. Then the Blessed Virgin brought them in front of the house of Mari-Cruz . . . prevented by her parents to follow the other visionaries who, once there, started an
    improvised song or, more exactly, a sacred serenade!

    That night, the candid hymns of the three children traveling through the dark lanes of the village, overjoyed in their ecstasy, symbolized the humble response of the earth to the songs of praise of the heavenly Court celebrating the Queen of angels and men. At about 4:15 a.m., always in ecstasy, they went to the church. The vigil came to an end at 5:00 a.m.

    The sacred serenade sung for Mari-Cruz

    Wake up, Mari-Cruz
    Do you not smell lilies
    The Virgin Mary brings you
    To help you be very good?

    Wake up, Mari-Cruz,
    She is coming, the kind Virgin
    With a basket of flowers
    For a little girl.

    Pick up the lilies
    That Mary brings you
    To help you be good.

    Good and holy little girl,
    You are very loving
    But you do not get up.


    [From "Garabandal', Book, pages 89-91]
     
  7. garabandalmiracle

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    Hi Glenn can you confirm or debunk that mari loli said an even year for the warning?
     
  8. Glenn

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    Now the story has been told that she also said the Warning would be in an "Even Year".

    Here's how that came about. In the book, “Suddenly & Unexpectedly, The end of our Times” by Tom Fahy .pg .93 (Published November 11, 2012 )

    "We know that the Warning must precede the Miracle. I happen to know, as per Maria (Saracco ) that Mari Loli had at one point been questioned by a priest who was trying to extract the year of the Warning from her. She would not tell him. Finally, he asked if she could at least tell him if it was an even or odd year. She relented and told him that it would be an “ even year. "


    When I researched this many years ago, I found out that the priest in question was Fr. Gustavo Morelos that she said this to,and I told this to Tom Fahy (as we were friends) and he verbally confirned all the above,and my research.
     
  9. Glenn

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    Today in Garabandal history TUESDAY, AUGUST 15, 1961:
    FIRST CLIMB TO SAN SEBASTIAN DE GARABANDAL
    BY A PEDIATRICIAN FROM SANTANDER,
    A GREAT WITNESS OF THE "EVENTS"
    A major scientific witness, Dr. Ortiz was the first physician to study the Garabandal phenomena seriously. Author of a report dated October 1962, of which a part was published, the pediatrician would spend about fifty days observing the visionaries. He always affirmed that they were "normal from every point of view."
    Below:
    Doctor Celestino Ortiz Perez, taking Conchita's pulse.[Excerpted from 'Garabandal' Book, page 91.]
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  10. Glenn

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    August 15: Fr. Andreu will not speak today:

    Conchita wrote in her diary: Several days after the death of Father Luis, the Virgin told us that we were going to speak with him.

    On August 15th, the Feast of Our Lady, there were many tourists who had come to amuse themselves and they were causing scandal. That was the day that the Virgin told us we would talk with Fr. Luís María Andreu. But since there was a scandal, he didn’t come. At 4 in the morning on the next day, at the same time that Fr. Luís had died, the Virgin appeared to me in my kitchen and said to me: “Father will not come today, but he will come tomorrow.” On the next day between 8 and 9 at night, the Virgin appeared to us, smiling very much as usual, and she said to the four of us: - “Fr. Luís will come now and speak to you.” After a while he came and called us one after the other. But we didn’t see him; we only heard his voice. It was exactly the same as when he spoke on Earth when he would give us advice. He also told us something for his brother Fr. Ramón María Andreu. He taught us words in French and how to pray in Greek. He also taught us words in English and German. After a while, we didn’t hear his voice anymore. Then the Virgin spoke to us and stayed with us for a moment before leaving.



    http://www.stjosephpublications.com/download/PDF/Conchitas_Diary_English.pdf

    Pg 32
     
  11. Glenn

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    Today in Garabandal History: AUGUST 16, 1961 ( From Conchita’s Diary )
    FR. LUIS ANDREU SPEAKS FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE !
    “Between 8:00 or 9:00 the Virgin appeared to us, smiling very much as usual, and said to the four of us, “ Fr. Luis will come now and speak to you”
    And after a while he came , and he called us one after the other. But we didn’t see him, we only heard his voice. It was exactly the same as when he spoke on Earth.
    And after giving us advice ,he also told us something for his brother Fr. Ramon.
    More importantly, he sent a consoling message through them to his elderly mother, for whom news of his early death had come as a great shock. ‘Be happy and content,’ he said, ‘for I am in Heaven and see you every day.’
    He taught us words in French, and even to pray in Greek. He taught us words in German, and in English too. After a while, we didn’t hear his voice anymore. And the Virgin spoke to us and stayed for a moment and left.”
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  12. Glenn

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    SACRED GROUND


    The Virgin Mary referred to “the Pines“ : "God loves this place very much. This place is sacred."


    GARABANDAL- “The Pines - Sacred ground “ .

    We all know about the special area of Garabandal called "The Pines" (the 9 Pine trees where the Blessed Mother appeared, and foretold of the great Miracle that will take place there),but there are some other facts that have been forgotten about over time. Mary called this place "sacred".

    Conchita 's Grandfather Serafin, in 1947 he was the mayor of the village, had the idea that every child, in commemoration of his or her First Holy Communion would plant a pine tree on the heights above the village as a symbol for his or her life. Of those planted, nine survived and grew into massive trees, at the place to which the Virgin Mary referred ' saying: "God loves this place very much. This place is sacred." Today they are called "los pinos" and we await the great Miracle announced by the visionary children. Mary said "It will be the greatest miracle that my Son, Jesus, will have ever performed for mankind. It will also be the last one before the end”.

    Recently I have confirmed that Garabandal has a history of doing a nightly Rosary for over 500 years ! It’s no wonder why “God loves this place very much,this place is sacred !”
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

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    Great post. I’m there in spirit.
     
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  15. Ed Kelly

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    The Miracle of the Andes and Garabandal Old, New, Unknown, Help!

    Winters are cruel in the village and long. Being accustomed to comfort at home with interior heat, I tried to keep warm in bed in September in Mesón Serafín while trying to type notes on a small Olivetti. It didn’t work, and so like many of the elder locals today, I moved to spend much of my ten-month 72-73 area stay in the city.

    Many readers will remember the 1972 plane crash in the Andes and how sixteen of the forty-three passengers survived for two months equipped only with some candy bars, bottles of wine purchased during the plane change in Mendoza, and tooth paste. Many will recall how some of the mothers of the lost boys prayed with confidence to Our Lady of Garabandal. One detail might be lesser known, and part of that, unknown to me. Help!

    I have always felt that the account of the crash carrying Uruguayan rugby players to a game on the west side of the Andes was, in a small way, also my story. By December 1972 I was tired of perusing old and new Santander newspapers seeking mention of my three-year passion for information on Garabandal. Yes, some early accounts, but with the exception of the 1967 “Denial” report, and the Catholic Church determining what is publicized and what is not, nothing recent during the episcopates of Bishops Puchol or Cirarda, the two bishops opposed to any talk about apparitions in their Diocese. And my work with microfiche and ordering periodicals from the basement in the old city library was drudgery.

    But then, finally, 1) in a small caption in the Santander daily, Alerta, “Diez y seis jugadores rescatados . . . Rezaron a la Virgen de Garabandal.” (Sixteen players rescued . . . after some mothers prayed to the Virgin of Garabandal. It wasn’t much, but a start. 2) I read later that the players were alumni of a Catholic school in Montevideo, run by the Christian Brothers of Ireland – the same brothers who taught me in high school and at Iona College. And 3), it was easy to keep my San Francisco Bay Area Spanish students on task while asking how they thought the players survived, and showing pictures in a Spanish photo magazine.

    Recently I reread part of the end of the story again in Josepha Gallego’s Los Milagros o Favores De Nuestra Madre De Garabandal. Sara Strauch speaking:

    “In the plane, now crossing the terrible mountain range, I observe a priest reading an English newspaper. I approach to ask him to pray for us, that we were on our way to look for our sons and I said: “Father, do you Speak Spanish? “

    “Well daughter, ever since I was born” he answers. He notices the tension (anxiety) in the atmosphere and asks me, ‘What’s going on?’ When I told him who we were and that we were asking a Miracle of the Virgin of Garabandal, what do you believe he told me, there at eighteen thousand feet above sea level, with the foreboding mountains where our sons had been, below us?”

    “Well yes I was in Garabandal and (presencié) saw the Miracle with these eyes.”

    “My tired, anguished, soul, anchored to my faith and to Our Mother, became inundated by peace. What other proof did I need to assure me that my son was alive. Gracias, gracias Maria Madre Mia!

    And a few hours later, I held my son Eduardo in my arms, after this marvelous meeting too great to be “coincidental”, while my sister Rosina held in her arms her son Adolfito.”

    That’s what I recalled from the fascinating story that Piers Paul Read relates in his New York Times best-selling book, Alive.” He writes in his ninth mention of Garabandal, that when all others were still perplexed, the two Strauch sisters were convinced that the whole drama, the crash and the eventual survival of their sons were meant to prove to the world the authenticity of the apparitions at Garabandal.

    With that, and the fascinating minute details about which parents decided to take the “rescue” plane from Montevideo to Santiago and which ones decided at the last minute not to go, I thought that the priest was Fr. Luis Andreu who had died mysteriously ten years previous. Bilocation? Yes, another mystery, but why not? God can do everything. And didn’t St. Pio see the Miracle? But a week ago I reread the account including what hadn’t stuck the first time. One of the sisters continues:

    “You don’t know how many times I regret not remembering the name of the Priest; many, many times I thought about writing to him. Where? To whom? Thus, I ask a favor. Would it be a big job to find out how many priests were present at the Miracle? They told me not many. And which one of them crossed the Andes twenty years ago and remains in my soul forever related to the ‘miracle’ of the Andes. Signed Rosina and Sarah Urioste de Strauch Uruguay

    Thus, it seems like the plane passenger priest didn’t mean the future Miracle, but the miracle of the host. So, I ask the same help. Does anyone know, or have a hint, at finding out who that priest was?

    More is found in Gallego’s book pp 120 ff. including that the plane left Montevideo the 12th of October 1972 and the accident happened on the 13th, the day of the last apparition of the Virgin of Fatima, the day of the great Miracle. “It was ‘God’s Sign’ that made [us] think that our Mother would take our sons under her protection.” (Much of this was published in the “Garabandal Journal” and likely in other places.)
     
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  16. HeavenlyHosts

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    An awesome and thought-provoking post.
     
  17. There is this radio-program video narrating the intervention of the Blessed Virgin of Garabandal in the rescue of the survivors of the Andes tragedy. It is in Spanish. It might have some useful information for your research (names of people involved or whatever).

     
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  18. Glenn

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    Today in Garabandal history AUGUST 18, 1961:
    DEPTH OF PRAYER AT
    SAN SEBASTIAN DE GARABANDAL

    "Prayer holds an important place in Garabandal. Magnificent, varied, profound, it runs through the "events" on the whole as never in any other great Marian Apparition . . . .
    The girls devoted a great deal of their time to prayer. What is especially striking is the quality of their ecstatic prayer: a meditation filled with presence, moved to the extreme; a slow, poised recitation inspiring the full meaning of words as simple as "Mary," "blessed," "grace," "Jesus." " (Robert Francois Turner, 'I, Your Mother,' ch. 18).
    The children spontaneously recited first the Rosary, then the Litanies, the Creed, the Our Father, the Salve Regina, in short what they knew. The Blessed Virgin had taught the visionaries all these prayers and, then, had gradually helped the girls to pronounce them clearly. So, on this August 18, the first thing Our Lady undertook was to recite the rosary with them: "I'll start the prayer and you will answer, very slowly," She suggested to the children.
    The visionaries postures induced the crowds to be quiet and recollected. "They would fall on their knees in the tiniest fraction of a second, sometimes adopting an overwhelming attitude of petition, their faces turned to heaven" .
    "To sing is to pray twice over" . . . The children improvised various hymns. From their songs there emanated a strange meekness and always a beautiful harmony.
    The Blessed Virgin taught the girls to make correctly the various signs of the cross used in Spain. They made them with unmatched dignity. Many films testify to this.
    [Excerpted from 'Garabandal' Book, page 93.]

    HEAR THE GIRLS SAY THE ROSARY AS MARY IS TEACHING THEM ! (Audio only ) :32 SEC’S
    http://www.garabandalvideos.com/conchita_rosary.mp3
     
  19. Glenn

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    Ed, why don't you post this on my facebook page. The large audience might render you some help.
     
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