"Francis has been totally orthodox..can only be faulted by faulty reading"

Thank you for the warning Joe..what is wrong with them?

God Bless you too.

 

A female Joe? Just what we need!

 

What did I tell you, Padraig? (Prescience, not prophecy.) There are those who will attempt to use your living room but refuse to wipe their feet.

 

Hi Padraig,

Well I don't hide anything, Padraig. I use my real name.

Why are you so angry with me when I have done nothing wrong?

I have never claimed to be an intellectual or a Theologian, but one thing I do know Padraig...I know my faith.

Then I don't need to introduce myself.

I am not sneaking about. Why are you being so defensive? Why do you want to make an enemy of me? And why would I judge you when only God is your judge? I have to admit to being concerned for you seeing as you are acting quite strange.

 

Actually his entire pontificate has been committed to this agenda, and he said it to the Polish bishops:

The official Vatican transcript of this meeting, https://zenit.org/articles/transcript-of-popes-dialogue-with-polish-bishops/ fails to mention the following subject. In these words of the pope, the world would finally have written proof that the Kasper proposal has actually been the pope's personal agenda all along, but the Vatican isn't willing to publicly confirm that yet apparently.

(Of course, maybe the holy and orthodox president archbishop of the Polish bishops' conference, who reveres the teachings of Pope St. JPII, made this up out of whole cloth. But its highly unlikely.)


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/p...decisions-on-communion-for-divorced-remarried
Pope spoke of ‘decentralizing’ decisions on Communion for divorced/remarried: Polish bishops’ head

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KRAKOW, Poland, July 29, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – The head of the Polish bishops conference says that in a private meeting this week Pope Francis held with the country’s bishops, he spoke of allowing local bishops conferences to make decisions about the controversial practice of giving Communion to those who are divorced and remarried.

“The Holy Father says that general laws are very hard to enforce in each country, and so he speaks about decentralization,” Archbishop Stanislaw Gadecki told reporters after a July 27 closed-door meeting with the Pope in Krakow. The pope had traveled to Poland for World Youth Day.

The pope related that in a decentralized Church, bishops’ conferences “might on their own initiative not only interpret papal encyclicals, but also looking at their own cultural situation, might approach some specific issues in an appropriate manner,” Gadecki said.

It was October 2015 that Pope Francis called for a more decentralized Church where bishops conferences could be given authority, even on doctrinal matters. Critics saw the move as contrary to the apostolic creed in which Catholics profess belief in a Church that is “one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic.”

Cardinal Francis Arinze, prefect emeritus of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, said at that time that on matters of faith and morals it would be impossible for local churches to teach differently than Rome because it would compromise the oneness of the Church.


Archbishop Stanislaw Gadecki
“The Ten Commandments are not subject to national frontiers. A bishops’ conference in a country cannot agree that stealing from a bank is not sinful in that country, or that divorced persons who are remarried can receive Holy Communion in that country, but when you cross the boundary and go to another country it now becomes a sin,” he said in an interview with LifeSiteNews at that time.

A suggestion of a decentralized Church also appeared in the Pope’s April apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia.

He writes: “I would make it clear that not all discussions of doctrinal, moral or pastoral issues need to be settled by interventions of the magisterium…Each country or region, moreover, can seek solutions better suited to its culture and sensitive to its traditions and local needs.”

U.S. canon lawyer Father Gerald Murray called the passage a “dangerous statement” in that it indicates that there could be different and even contrary laws in different countries regarding, for instance, who can be admitted to the sacrament of communion.

“That’s very disturbing. The sacraments are not the possession of any culture, so therefore, their regulation is entrusted to the guardians of the Church, that is, the pope and the bishops. So, that inculturation is a very popular theme because we think, well, this makes people feel more at home with their religion, but I say just the opposite: when the religion is transmitted accurately from the center, then you feel most at ease,” he said in an interview with EWTN in April.

On the same show, Robert Royal, the president of the Faith & Reason Institute, agreed.

“We [would] have this absurd situation [in a decentralized Church] that you can get in your car and drive from Poland, and in Poland if you’re divorced and remarried you receive communion, it’s a sacrilege and it’s a break with tradition, it’s a slap in the face of our Lord… you drive across into Germany and suddenly it’s this new outpouring of [so-called mercy],” he said.

Archbishop Gadecki told reporters after the meeting with the pope that the Church in Poland will refuse Communion to divorced and remarried Catholics. While he said that he himself recognized the need for “constant discernment” for remarried divorcees, he added that there could be a “theological clash” over the “need for faith and receiving the sacraments.”

Communion for remarried divorcees is “not something solved in the confessional in two minutes or two years,” he stated. “This is a path priests and laity need to walk together, knowing that if a marriage has been validly concluded, there are no grounds of giving Holy Communion if the person is divorced and remarried.”​

 

Careful, this pope is planning on sacking Muller at the CDF for his orthodoxy, and replacing him with Schonborn, who has already been admitting those in irregular unions to the Holy Eucharist for 15 years.

 

Good then come on out in the open .

Ask your questions.

Make your accustations.

 

You didn't like the Scripture Brian?

 

Because one can, actually, judge a book by its cover.

MDM has repeatedly and unequivocally been condemned here, and such can easily be documented, so don't attempt to accuse anyone here of being that false prophet's minion. You'll rightly be banned.

 

I suggest you just crawl away now, troll.

(We're not usually so curt with otherwise good and sincere Catholics, but it's simple to see your trajectory to be the next "Sir Knight" Joe of the forum.)

 

I'm not here to accuse anyone. I can't be more open than I am Padraig...you see my name..and my photo. I don't know who you are though. It says you are a new member.

 

I know MDM has been banned in here. She's in retirement now and please God has confessed her guilt.

 

Does that make you feel good?

 

Actually Padraig you are right...I was thinking more to do with faith and morals.

That's good to hear.

 

She was originally a forum member Janet, she came to be for discernment I told her she was wrong , many years I dare say beofre you knew anything about her.
I recommended she take spirtual direction, she did not do so.

The rest is history.

But you didn't know that did you?

This was long, long before she was condemned by the ArchBishops.

Is any of this news to you , Janet?

Anyone who is a long time member on the forum can confirm this. I condemned what she was doing long before anyone else.

Many years before you, right at the start of her little operation. years before the Church condemned her.

I dare say long before you even heard of her.

 

No, honestly, but you're working hand and hand with Joe, and though he too was a good guy, he was unwittingly doing the work of the devil. We had one Sir Knight "Come back, I can still bite you!" Joe and he got pretty ugly. We don't need another, things are too serious to waste our time on cranky three year olds who, in their stubbornness or pride, refuse to admit the obvious.

 

If you had bothered reading the postings you would have known this before I wrote it. Did you bother checking I had expelled people for suggesting it? Or Suggesting anything similair?

Did you know I have constantly defended Pope Francis for the least suggestion he is some kind of false or anti Pope? Did you even bother discovering this? That I have thrown several people of the forum for even suggesting it?

Shame on you.

Have you read my writings on prayer?

On the saints?

On mysticism?

Do you know anything at all about me?

Did you even bother with any of it?

 

Who appointed you to be judge Janet?

Who gave the Warrant to sit on Judgement on me?

Who gave you that right?

 

Any chance of an apology? Go and talk with Joe Crozier about it. He maybe did'nt explain things quite right

Talk about a stab in the back. From both of you.

 

I'll not hold my breathe