"Francis has been totally orthodox..can only be faulted by faulty reading"

An example of what?

 

I understand Mac. I was just hoping to make sense of it from your point of view rather than the author's.

 

What country are you posting from John?

 

I was thinking you would refute one of the points made by Ferrara.

 

I would not even think of getting into that kind of discussion. Not because it is not important but because I simply don't have enough knowledge or experience in this area to make any useful contribution. But also because Ferrara is presenting his concerns as part of his criticism of Pope Francis. Any discussion of this topic should be under a totally separate thread.

 

England - and you?

 

I can't help but think that this was just another priest deserting the Lord. :-(

 

Kiwi mate.

 

It is not a cop out.

Parents are the primary educators of their children. Period, full-stop. God given right.

No the state nor even the Pope can usurp this God-given right.

 

What stone has been cast on the Popes divorced and 'remarried' sister?

 

Absolutely yes that the parents are primary educators. But not unique educators.

It is a valid position to say that sex education is best given by parents but most young people will only get what they are given by the State or discover for themselves. The Church is trying to provide a better choice.

 

Yes...but most parents don't. I won't say video is good or bad because i have never seen it...but in our area they make parents write authorization to be taught sex education.

 

Parents have a right to absent children from 'sex education' classes in Catholic schools so that tells you that parents are the primary & principal educators and the Church supports this stance.

Indeed so pernicious has 'sex education' become even in Catholic schools many parents are opting for home-schooling (1.7 million children in the USA alone are educated at home). Those who home-school then are also 'unique educators'.

The Church has taught from all ages that the State (nor even the Church) has no right to interfere in family life.

Pope Leo XIII taught in his encyclical Rerum Novarum

“…inasmuch as the domestic household is antecedent, as well in idea as in fact, to the gathering of men into a community, the family must necessarily have rights and duties which are prior to those of the community, and founded more immediately in nature… The contention, then, that the civil government should at its option intrude into and exercise intimate control over the family and the household is a great and pernicious error…

 

Agreed, garabandal, but the question remains. For the vast majority of the youth, they will receive no or little education from their parents on this matter.

Do you prefer that the youth are left to find out how best to handle these matters from the TV and the internet and films and their fellow school kids rather than learning from the Church?

 

But "who am I to judge"? Janet, please pull the plank out of your eye before judging others.

 

Basically David, what we have is the church blending in with the globalists new world order. This is the big "mistake" the pope has made that, I believe, Charlie Johnston said the pope would make when he came to the US and ever since. I have always thought of the church as both left and right, social justice tempered with 2000 years of teaching and tradition. By de-emphasizing or changing what he can the pope is only concentrating on the left or "social justice/mercy" side. Spin it any way you or Mark Mallet will, but it is not the whole truth, a type of false mercy. That is why the pope can praise an abortionist, Emma Bonino, while bullying and denigrating those who want to follow 2000 years of church teaching by calling them pharisees and hypocrites. He, Pope Francis, is the hypocrite/pharisee.

 

Wheres the social justic part

 

It is interesting, picadillo, that you respond to my perfectly straightforward question to garabandal with more criticism of Pope Francis.

Would you like to answer the question - Do you prefer that the youth are left to find out how best to handle these matters from the TV and the internet and films and their fellow school kids rather than learning from the Church?

 

Parents will have to face the judgement of God if they fail their children in this regard. But many parents do take their duties seriously and since each child is a unique person and must receive individualised formation. Since it is the parents who know, understand and love their children they are in the best position to decide what the appropriate time and variety of information in relation to the child's maturity. No one can take this capacity for discernment away from conscientious parents.

“The Pontifical Council for the Family therefore urges parents to have confidence in their rights and duties regarding the education of their children, so as to go forward with wisdom and knowledge, knowing that they are sustained by God’s gift.”

At least we are in agreement David in this regard that parents are the primary educators of their children.

This is a truth that is non-negotiable.