We can all disagree with each other, it would be a boring old world if we didn't.. But how much better if we did so with a certain kindness. Ephesians 4:32 Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you. The ways of This World are so often not the ways of Heaven, the Path of Peace. I always like to keep the door of my heart open to others, but am also conscious that I should close doors if I must.
The Consecration was done correctly in 1984 and Russia has converted and continues to convert. The last 50 years of history is proof enough for me that Russia has converted but it was the recent events in Syria that sealed the deal: it was Russia that stuck to her guns and prevented the West from totally raping and murdering Syria. The Western-armed, demonic "Syrian Rebels " are not finished murdering and torturing the Catholics and other minorities in Syria (who were protected by and overwhelmingly support Assad), but had it not been for Russia saying "nyet" to Obama's demonic, unjust operation in Syria, many more Catholics would be lying dead and mutilated in Syria. The worst is probably not over in Syria thanks to Obama and the West, not Russia. The Fatima prophecy is actually playing out in real time before our very eyes.: The Consecration was done. The Conversion of Russia nears completion. The errors of Russia did spread and are now in full operation in the West, which has popularized and codified Materialism and the culture of death to a degree Marx could only have dreamed of. And we await the Triumph, the key to which is not to be found in the Consecration of Russia but rather is found in the following questions posed to Sister Lucia in 2001 by Archbishop Bertone: "What have you to say about the stubborn assertions of Fr Gruner, who has been collecting signatures, asking the Pope to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary at last, as if this has never been done?". Sr Lucia replies: "The Carmelite community has rejected the forms for the collection of signatures. I have already said that the consecration desired by Our Lady was made in 1984, and has been accepted in Heaven". "Is it true that Sr Lucia is deeply upset by recent events, that she can no longer sleep and is praying night and day?" Sr Lucia answers: "It is not true. How could I pray during the day if I did not rest at night? How many things they are putting in my mouth! How many things they make me seem to do! Let them read my book: in it are all the recommendations and appeals that correspond with Our Lady's wishes. Prayer and penance, together with great faith in God's power, will save the world". Archbishop Tarcisio Bertone Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
David, I sincerely and wholeheartedly disagree with you. Thats all I will say. I hope you see the truth soon. I'm not in the mood to argue with you nor do you want to seem to understand why our Lady has come. Peace to you.
Yeah, Ill drop it also. David ,your entiltled to your opinion.That you defend Bertones 'official' position is admirable.
I am hoping right now these messages are false. It goes on, same awful error, why oh why? Catholics realize "Russia" must be named. Is it Our Lord's consecrated ones do not read or ignore prophecy? Personally, a priest asked me once after I used the term, "what is the Era of Peace?" Pray for the Holy Father, the Cardinals, the Bishops and our Priests. America must receive a new fire that comes only from my heart. October 3, 2013 5. The Two 1917 Fires Debt Limit Crisis Mary Everywhere you look fires of destruction burn brightly. Although a fire of peace burns brightly in my heart, it does not go forth. Soon, the Holy Father will consecrate the world to my Immaculate Heart. As always, I will respond with an outpouring of my blessings, but this consecration will not put out the fires. Let me take you back to 1917. Two fires were planted, the fire of love at Fatima and the fire of evil in Russia. I warned that the Russian fire, planted there by her enemies, would spread its errors. So it has been for nearly 100 years. Russia is now aligned with terrorist nations in the Middle East, offering them all the help they need. This is no conversion, no change of heart. The evil fire planted in 1917 still burns. Until that fire is extinguished and the fire of Fatima is planted in Russia, little will change. The Holy Father will consecrate the world to my Immaculate Heart and I will bless the world, but I want the consecration of Russia that I have asked for. http://www.locutions.org/
David, What are we suppose to do until all the divine events in the yet to be approved happen? Divine Mercy revelations confirm the daily yet to be approved. And, very important, Bishops can be wrong, we've seen in recent history. No hard feelings, there are the two camps. The times we live in, we're close to the divine events happening, one reason there are so many messages from Heaven and the loss of faith.
What I mean is I will stop debating with you David. I wont stop recommending to others to continue their valiant efforts to perform the first 5 Saturdays and help bring in 'The Triumph'[because that would only please the devil]
16 But this is that which was spoken of by the prophet Joel: 17 And it shall come to pass, in the last days, (saith the Lord,) I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. 18 And upon my servants indeed, and upon my handmaids will I pour out in those days of my spirit, and they shall prophesy. 19 And I will shew wonders in the heaven above, and signs on the earth beneath: blood and fire, and vapour of smoke. 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and manifest day of the Lord come. 21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord, shall be saved.
Monsignor Rossi, in this article http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/we-need-the-intercession-of-our-lady shows once again the ignorance of those who have heard others repeat that the consecration to Russia was done by several popes: Msgr. Rossi: "First of all, the consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary goes back to the time of Pope Pius XII, who had consecrated Russia to Mary’s Immaculate Heart. Then both Pope Paul VI and Blessed John Paul II reconsecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and then in 1982 Blessed John Paul II consecrated the entire world to Mary’s Immaculate Heart". (actually it was 1984 that JPII consecrated the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, but that doesn't matter cause the rest of what he said was inaccurate as well.) Then he goes on to say this: "As we all know, the world is not at peace. And one of the principal reasons for the consecration was not only for the conversion of Russia but also for world peace. So this consecration is really timely because right now we need the intercession of Our Lady. We need prayers to change minds and hearts to help bring about the peace the world so desperately needs". Oh, no wonder we do not have peace, because as Monsignor say's "the conversion was not only for Russia but also for world peace". This is incoherent! Really, we don't have peace because we needed to consecrate the world too? Someone needs to tell the good Monsignor that the consecration to the world has taken place many times by the Popes and that it is specifically the word RUSSIA that has been left out. That is why we do not have peace in the world, because the Popes have substituted the word "World" for "Russia" every time and Our Lady of Fatima specifically said Russia was to be consecrated to her Immaculate Heart. The head of the Washington DC shrine can't even get it right. They have all bought the lie that the Pope has consecrated Russia.
What do you expect in America. They never did what Our Lady of America asked either to Sister Ephrem. If they had maybe this country wouldn't have turned into what it has turned into. http://www.ewtn.com/library/BISHOPS/burkeolamer.htm http://www.ourladyofamerica.org/explanation.php
8 Jesuits survive Hiroshima because they lived the Fatima message. The protection of Our Lady is our hope.
Not sure if this will work ,live stream the consecration. yesterdays welcome ,marvelous.... maybe here...Sunday October 13 10:30 a.m. (Rome time; 4:30 a.m. EDT) Live streaming here. in 3 and a half hours.
Thanks Mac, Here at our parish we prayed, outside in the rain, all four mysteries along with other prayers for the pope and the consecration. We were told we joined 10,000 other prayer groups here in the US in public and in support of Our Lady of Fatima.
Words really can't describe the feeling if joy, peace, and strength to see the Vicar of Christ come down the steps of St. Peter's where the first Pope lies to greet and kiss His Mother, Our Mother, the Mother of the Church, the Most Holy Mother of God. Joy, joy, joy for a brief time in this Valley of Tears. Alleluia!
Peace to all on this anniversary , October 13th of the Dancing of the Sun witnessed by 100,00 people at Fatima and the Holy Father Pope Pius x11 from the Vatican gardens. I can't hep having a deep sense of expectation today. As Pope John Paul 2 said the messages of Fatima are far from coming to completion. The book not yet shut on Fatima.
Was watching the video and I swear it seems her eyes moved at 1:16:38. Watch it and tell me I'm crazy...lol At 1:20: 50 is our Lady Queen of Peace of Medjugorje!!
I think I saw that and a hint of a smile also. I pledged in Knock Ireland today to spread the message of Fatima and help fight Communism and do my bit for the triumph of the Immaculate heart. I hope I can be someway useful, new chapter for me today. Great to see so much devotion to Our Lady of Fatima and Pope Francis is really playing his part.
