Oh, please tell Joe that I have a hard copy of the 1965 "hybrid" missal somewhere in my stack of stuff, and if he'd like a copy I'd be happy to send it to him. (Hope you have FBI hostage negotiation & rescue training ... :0)
I thought you were being sincere and extending a hand of friendship to Joe in offering the information on the 1965 Missale Romanum: as well as the pre and post changes to the latin Mass as Joe obviously has interest in this?! With the above replys from both yourself and Mac I can only deduce that your provocative and negative posts regarding Pope Francis have been deliberately confrontational to members of this forum and especially towards Joe as you know these Caholics love the Pope, they are the good Catholics who are remaining faithful to Christs Vicar! so why are you here? are you Catholic? Is participating in this forum just a twisted game your playing? Is it good fun?
I was. The offer still stands. I'll be happy to send him a copy of the 1965 hybrid missal, no charge. With all due respect, your deductions are simply wrong. Joe and Mac are personal friends who visit with each other. I'm on the other side of the planet but have been friendly with both both publicly and in private discussion. Recently my comments seem to have gotten under Joe's saddle so he put me on ignore. I don't take that personally and would be surprised if that were a permanent thing. My apologies if I misunderstood your offer of mediation. I thought in doing so, you realized there is a history of friendly give and take here between the three of us.
It is meant to be Josephite. But with fun we always wish to convey some truth. Joe and I have exchanged 47 pages! of private messages. Most friendly ,some not so Very disappointed in your last questions.
Hi Josephite Thank you for your concern but a go beween needs two to be tangoing. There is no tango here. So be at peace and know I am. Once again thank you. You are a good friend.
I’m afraid you both lost me in the transition from sincerity to jest. Maybe it’s a bloke thing? Also, I am sorry if I have offended you..................... please forgive me. My take on the Holy Father and the Catholic Church below; Our Lady stated at Akita.............. ‘that in the end we will only have the Rosary and the sign left by her son’, Our Lord promised that................’ the gates of Hell would not prevail against His Holy Catholic Church’ I as many on the forum and yourselves included no doubt, are praying for Our Holy Father and the Church during these perilous times, , I believe the Holy Spirit is still guiding the Holy Catholic Church and protecting her from deadly error. But once that time comes and I believe it will come, the Holy Catholic Church will cease to exist. There will be no Holy Father or clergy or doctrine, as the Church will be sacked and destroyed! Our Lord Jesus Himself will remove the Church before she has the chance to succumb to the gates of hell or before the evil one can claim her! That is because Our Lord promised this! Only God’s direct intervention will help us then! and that time will be His time of Justice Until that sorry time, Gods unfathomable Divine Mercy manifested through the Church is providing the sacraments, the doctrines, including the Most Holy Mass, Holy Confession and the Blessed Eucharist and we are very privileged.
Hi neighbour As I explained to Mac yesterday I find his personal insults quite funny. I have no time for his accusations and insults to our Holy Father and detractions of our Faith. Not on a Catholic forum. As my priest said his faith is no better than those who left the church and signed up with Henry VIII. Essentially his is a protestant faith even though it holds the form of Catholic ritual. In my opinion he is a good guy but his faith is haywire We are ok with each other talking like this. It keeps it real. God bless your good heart. Brian is a horse of a different colour. I find him more difficult. I am sure Brian and Mac have great fun albeit inappropriate, but I agree, the time for fun has run out. There will be time for that later. I will not release the ignore button on them. "Some still struggle with what I have told you about treating all sincere Christians and Jews as full and equal partners in the work before us – and to treat all people of good will, whatever faith, as true neighbors. It is not how to be allies that troubles people so much, but how to do it while maintaining full fidelity to your own faith. Don’t use the struggle against oppression and tyranny as a chance to convert an ally. Simply live your faith with full integrity, recognizing the authenticity of your ally’s faith." From CJ's site
