Evil Empire or Russia Consecrated?

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Richard67, Nov 18, 2014.

  1. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    I have never read such a fallacious, biased article in my life. I should have known better as soon as I saw Radio Free Europe cited as the source.

    The article is as deceptive as it is fallacious. It is trying to imply that all Jews emigrating from Russia must be under some sort of persecution by Putin. Utter nonsense. It cites as evidence the testimony of a self-admitted Foreign Agent in Russia, Vladimir Yakovlev, and the testimony of Mikhail Kaluzhsky another self-admitted foreign agent who admits to participating in the Maidan.

    So, basically, we have two Russians who were putting foreign interests ahead of Russian interests and got upset because Putin signed laws banning NGO's and Foreign Agents in Russia. These two individuals are upset with "Putin's politics" and upset that Putin puts Russia first and so they falsely engage in this propaganda that "Jews are leaving Russia because of Putin." Give me a break!

    The fact is that Russian-Israeli relations have never been better - "Why Russia should take over Israel's defense from America":

    "While Russia's record with Jews has historically been pretty bleak — think pogroms — recent history is considerably brighter. The Soviet Union was one of the first countries to officially recognize Israel in 1948, and despite subsequent differences — the two nations were diplomatically estranged between 1967 and 1991 — Putin has worked to improve relations. He became the first Russian or Soviet leader to visit Israel ever in 2005, and made a return visit in 2012 to help inaugurate a memorial to the Jewish soldiers who fought in the Soviet Red Army in World War II.

    There are lots of reasons for the improved ties between Russia and Israel, but key among them is the fact that Israel has become increasingly Russian in the past 20 years. Putin is deeply concerned with the wellbeing of Russian nationals wherever they reside, up to and including invading other countries to protect their interests, and 15 percent of Israelis are emigrants from the former Soviet Union.

    Many of the these million or so members of the ex-Soviet diaspora still speak Russian, hang out with other Russian émigrés, read Russian-language newspapers, and frequent businesses that cater to Russian Israelis. About a third of them, 300,000, are considered Jewish by Israel's Law of Return — meaning they have at least one Jewish grandparent — but not by Israeli religious authorities, meaning they can't get married or buried in Israel, even though they are citizens.

    Putin and Israel's government also share a hardline stance toward Islamic insurgencies and terrorism. Russia has been considered relatively pro-Palestinian, but Putin is notably more sympathetic to Israel's Palestinian crackdowns than his predecessors. Similarly, Israel declined to join the U.S. and Europe in criticizing Putin's harsh crackdown on Chechnya's Muslim militants, or even his incursions into Georgia and Ukraine." http://theweek.com/articles/562830/why-russia-should-take-over-israels-defense-from-america
     
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  2. Forbes: Russia inadvertently posts its casualties in Ukraine: 2,000 deaths, 3,200 disabled
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    The graves of fighters without names marked with numbers in the cemetery of Mospyne on February 16, 2015, Ukraine (Getty Images)


    "There are no Russian troops in Ukraine, according to the official Kremlin

    "Russian president Vladimir Putin has decreed that all Russian casualties "in peacetime" be a state secret. In addition to criminal charges arising from divulging state secrets, families risk losing pensions and lump-sum payments if they reveal that their sons were killed in Ukraine.

    "Mothers of soldiers' associations have been branded "foreign agents" for collecting data on Russian casualties. Dissident Boris Nemtsov was murdered shortly before completing his study of Russian casualties in Ukraine. Russian civil rights organizations, working against the fog of official resistance, could confirm only several hundred battlefield deaths."

    http://uatoday.tv/news/forbes-russi...raine-2-000-deaths-3-200-disabled-481909.html

    Read also OSCE spots numerous'Cargo-200' vehicles at Russian-Ukrainian border

    http://uatoday.tv/news/osce-spots-n...icles-at-russian-ukrainian-border-470320.html

    Most Russian soldiers killed in Donbas ‘came from Moscow, Dagestan and Rostov'

    UNIAN: "Most of the Russian soldiers and mercenaries killed in fighting in Ukraine last year came from the Dagestan, Pskov and Rostov regions of Russia, as well as Krasnodar, Moscow and St. Petersburg, Ukrainian news broadcaster TSN has reported.

    "TSN said the information came from the Open Russia movement, which has investigated the deaths in Ukraine of Russian soldiers from almost all regions of the Russian Federation."


    http://uatoday.tv/news/most-russian...e-from-moscow-dagestan-and-rostov-401318.html
     
  3. Basto

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  4. Sanctus

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  6. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Ah yes, but let us look closely at what Father Malachi Martin said would take place before its conversion:
    Taken all together, the clues he revealed about the Third Secret can be divided into three categories, which he listed in his book, The Keys of This Blood as follows:

    “A physical chastisement of the nations, involving catastrophes, man-made or natural, on land, on water and in the atmosphere of the globe. A spiritual chastisement … [consisting] of the disappearance of religious belief, a period of widespread unfaith in many countries. A central function of Russia in the two preceding series of events. In fact, the physical and spiritual chastisements, according to Lucia’s letter, are to be gridded on a fateful timetable in which Russia is the ratchet".
     
  7. Indy

    Indy Praying

    http://mysticpost.com/2015/10/10/the-surprising-rise-of-christianity-in-russia/


     
  8. picadillo

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    At this moment , I live in the USA, Russia is the enemy of the west and their new world order. In fact, the NWO dreams are dying in the middle east. ISIS was being used by the west to further their goals. Putin/Russia is defeating the NWO. The western banks have sold all their gold to the east, it is just a matter of when our money will become monopoly money. He who has the gold makes the rules. The west got off the gold standard and went on the oil standard, ie. the petrol dollar. The west has become the ultimate "Potemkin Village."

    Therefore, at this moment God is using Russia to inflict pain now and into the future, we can not win an economic or real war with Russia/China. I may end up getting nuked but Russia is on the "right" side. In the end because Russia is a Christian country it will re-evangelize the west. Sorry Fatima, at this point the west is communist and godless.
     
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  9. Fatima

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    pic.... exactly what our Lady of Fatima said would take place if the consecration of Russia did not take place as she requested, "Russia would spread its error's throughout the world". Tell the Catholics who lost their Churches and freedom to worship that Russia has converted. They won't even let the Pope visit there. I don't think this is the conversion that Mary spoke of at Fatima. Yes, I have no doubt that the US, along with most of the free world, has been sunk by communistic ideology. I never doubted that and only a blind man could not see this. However, my point has always been and continues to be, Russia (Putin) will soon unleash hell fire nukes throughout Europe and American and it will not be pretty. One other point is, you keep acting as if Russia is the only country with good Christians. This is blatantly false. It's government like most every government in the world is corrupt as the day is long. However, many of its citizens are good practicing faithful like in many countries including the US.
     
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  10. Joe Crozier

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    It seems a long time ago that i wrote in support of Orthodox Russians in Gulags for their faith. I wonder how far we have really come from those days. I wonder how many enemies of the state still linger in prison for their faith. I have no idea.
     
  11. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Joe last Spring I posted a news article with pics of a New Cathedral in the once gulog in the Soviet Union. The Cathedral is Our Lady of Fatima... I will try and find the link.

    with donations from the state.
     
  12. Verne dagenais

    Verne dagenais Principalities

    Consider Russia is also aligning itself with Iran, China, and Syria. Other reports say possibly Hezbollah. Disinformation is a tactic of the kgb and now the fsb. If Russia and China have controlling interests in the Middle East oil. Communism may try and overtake the world through economic interests.
     
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  13. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    The US now has more oil than the middle east, due to oil shale technology.
    I agree Russias' alignment is odd but so is the US alignment. We back Iran in Iraq but proxy against Iran in Yemen...who is America anymore?

    Makes my head spin!
     
  14. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I don't think anyone can point a figure at another country as if they are worse or better than any other corrupt government. After all, Our Lady of Fatima did say that the communistic error's of Russia would spread throughout the world and indeed it is everywhere. We know the rest of the story. We know what we are supposed to be doing. It does no good to think one country is better than another. We know that Portugal will be the one country to keep the faith, so if anyone wants to move there you better get going. I am staying put and will live out the tribulation where I am at, unless I am told differently from above.
     
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  15. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Maybe we can get one of these Mars crafts....we could establish Padraigville on Mars...

    Im kidding!...Im a silly man at times
     
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  16. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Sometimes I feel like I am already on Mars and trying to find some form of intelligent life here :LOL:
     
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  17. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Conditional prophecy is never set in stone. The point of all private revelation is to bring about conversion and a change of heart, a new direction for those on the wrong path. Our Lady is ever the great strategist. Sure, she will give proofs of authenticity and validation when required (like the miracle of the sun, the miracles at Lourdes, etc.) but messages themselves are always subject to the free play of God's Mercy and the free actions of mankind. Russia was once the leading champion of Atheism and Satanism on the planet (aka Communism) and yet now today the roles have been reversed and the West has taken up the defense of Communist principles while Russia now finds herself the leader of the free, Christian world. China is in the early stages of conversion. Our Lady doesn't rest. Perhaps when the time is right she will come again with a new message for a new set of circumstances.
     
  18. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    We also have large deposits of coal. But Obama killed the coal industry early on in his first term. He also killed the budding Natural Gas industry: you will remember not too long ago that Gas prices were much higher than they are now. Almost overnight they dropped. This was entirely artificial and not the result of market forces. Why did this happen? Answer: it was an attempt to further harm the Russian economy when it became clear that Obama's sanctions were not doing enough damage. Kerry met with the Saudis and they agreed to lower the prices. No matter that not only was the Russian economy further damaged but the budding American Natural Gas companies took a direct hit as evidenced by the volumes of crude shipped by rail in this country. Many of the American refineries went out of business or severely scaled down operation because the price of Gas became so low that they were not able to break even. This is exactly what Obama did to the Coal industry in America under the pretext of "saving the environment." Most Americans don't seem to realize the danger he has put our economy in because the price of Gas has remained so low. But that could change at any moment. It is sad that American's natural resource potential is held hostage by Team Obama and the Saudi cartel.
     
  19. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Fatima, were gonna have a BIG problem.
    Girls are from venus and men are from Mars....that's a best selling book, right? Were goin to Mars ladies, no shuttles to Venus anytime soon...stop it! the fuel bill from earth to Mars over to Venus....ai ye yih
     
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  20. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Im American and have NO clue what the US Foreign policy is....does anyone?

    Putin to me seems the most sober minded of all world leaders!....Russia does transition to punish the World for its infidelity to our Lord,many of you do say.

    If not now when do you see Russias transition to be the Lords instrument?
     

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