This last message in the book God Speaks Will You Listen says it all for those who have ears to hear. www.godspeakswillyoulisten.org 11/06/07 The Mark of the Beast My son, I want to further explain to you what the mark of the beast truly means. Apocalypse 13:16-17 states: And he shall make all, both the little and great, rich and poor, freemen and bondmen, to have a character in their right hand or on their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, but he that hath the character, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Now read Apocalypse 14:9-11: And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice: If any man shall adore the beast and his image and receive his character in his forehead or in his hand, He also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mingled with pure wine in the cup of his wrath: and shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torments shall ascend up forever and ever: neither have they rest day nor night, who have adored the beast and his image and whoever receiveth the character of his name. My son, who are the souls who will take this mark? They are lukewarm Catholics, apostate Protestants, and the followers of the antichrist. I will now explain this further for you. My words clearly states those who take the mark of the beast will be tormented forever with fire and brimstone. This means it is a final act of rebellion against my mercy. What would cause a person to rebel against my mercy with the knowledge of eternal damnation upon receiving the mark? It will be a rejection of my mercy through my warning. The warning shall take place before the mark of the beast is forced on mankind. Otherwise many innocent souls would take this mark not understanding what it truly means. The mark of the beast is more than a computer chip. It is the turning completely of your will to Satan and your sinful desires. A physical mark is an outward manifestation of an inward rebellion against God. Just as baptism, is an outward sign of an inward cleansing of original sin from a soul. During the warning, every soul will know that I exist and that I am the Son of God who is the only way to the Father. My son, souls will experience a miniature judgment and be given a chance to repent and change their wicked ways. This type of knowledge of soul has never occurred on a worldwide scale before in history. Most souls only receive this knowledge after death and are not given a second chance. This is what makes rejection of the warning such a final condemnation. You will see the truth Jesus Christ and then you will reject the truth. You truly will have no excuses. You will be committing the sin of Lucifer and his angels, “ I will not serve.” You will have experienced the truth. No doubts will henceforth remain in the minds of any of my people. Rejection of the warning will leave you with a total rejection of my mercy. This rejection will cause many to totally give their will to Satan and their evil desires. These souls will have taken the mark of the beast on their souls. Just as my faithful, receive the mark of the cross at baptism and confirmation. To repeat, the spiritual mark will be manifested by a physical sign. This physical sign on your being will be required for survival in this world. Those who reject the spiritual mark will reject the physical mark and will be persecuted by the following groups. Lukewarm Catholics will reject my divine life received at baptism and commit the sin of blaspheming my body, blood, soul, and divinity. Hence lukewarm Catholics will persecute my faithful Catholics. After the warning, there will only be one church. All Protestant denominations will have no reason to exist. For all Protestants will see the truth in my Catholic Church. Those Protestants who in their pride reject my truth, will become apostate and persecute my true Catholics. Many Protestants will enter my church because of the warning. The ungodly will persecute my faithful remnant because the ungodly rejected my mercy. A fierce persecution will rage like a fire in certain parts of your world. Europe, North America, and Latin America will persecute my faithful severely. My son, the largest number of converts will come from the pagan religions. Many Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and tribal peoples will accept my mercy and truth because of the warning. My church will experience a large amount of growth in those areas. I will need my faithful to teach these converts. Many miracles will take place at this time. Bilocation and other miracles assisted by my angels will occur. My faithful may be teaching in different areas of the world. After the warning, there will only be a short time given to mankind to repent. If no repentance is done, I will allow Satan and the Antichrist to chastise a sinful generation. At this time, many faithful will be: called home, persecuted, martyred, and taken to my refuges. Only those who are not spiritual babies with my divine life residing in their souls will endure those days and enter my era of peace. My son, at baptism all my children receive sanctifying grace, but many do not progress beyond spiritual infancy. I will not lose any the Father has given to me. My spiritual babies will come home to be with me to prevent the loss of their souls. A soul who does not partake of my Eucharist remains a spiritual baby. Just as a human baby must eat solid food to grow to adulthood, so spiritually you must receive my graces through the sacraments to mature to spiritual adulthood. The body must be fed to grow. Likewise, the soul must be fed to grow and mature. Satan knows this truth. This is why he has deceived many of my people with false interpretations of my scriptures. Many teach the physical nation of Israel is the fulfillment of my scripture. more..............
Continued............. Many teach the Antichrist will resume the Jewish sacrifice in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem to constitute the abomination of desolation. This is a false teaching, not from God, but from human understanding. My son, in the book of Daniel, the persecution by the Jews under Antiochus can be considered a partial fulfillment of the abomination of desolation. But the complete fulfillment has not yet taken place. At my death, the veil in the temple was rent in two and the old sacrificial covenant was replaced by my new covenant. My sacrifice on the cross was the final sacrifice for my peoples’ sin. I am the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. I am the seed of Abraham, the son of David, in whom all the nations of the earth are blessed. My nation of Israel is my church, not the modern nation of Israel. My people are now all those who become part of my church through sanctifying grace. The complete fulfillment of the prophecy from Daniel of the abomination of desolation will occur: when the continual sacrifice of the mass is abolished by the False Prophet and the Anitchrist. Acceptance of the protestant doctrine of the mass by an antipope will be the fulfillment of the prophecy. The temple of God is my Holy Roman Catholic Church. My faithful remnant will be persecuted worldwide with the mass taking place underground. These conditions will be similar to the early persecutions by the Romans. The Roman persecutions were a foreshadowing of the persecution and time of the antichrist. Remember all this will be allowed and take place according to the will of my Father in heaven. Scripture must and will be fulfilled. I am warning you again my son and any who will take heed to my warnings. He who has ears to hear let him hear. A final warning to those who read these words. Do not wait until the warning to prepare your soul. Prepare your soul now. You may meet your maker today. I do not promise you tomorrow. Receive my graces today through the sacraments instituted by myself and given to my church. You will need my divine life in your soul prior to the warning, to be my witness to the world. After the warning, many souls will need instruction. Many of these souls will be spiritual babies and will be taken home, after the warning. If you desire to enter my era of peace, you must be progressing through my merits and graces to spiritual adulthood, when the warning takes place. This is my final message from this messenger for my people. For I am the same yesterday, today, and forever. The time is short. Jesus Christ has spoken to you today. Take heed to my words. Amen.
I'd like to suggest, respectfully, keeping to the subject of the thread, and not introducing new non-Countdown to the Kingdom "visionaries." With so many posts and pages already, it makes things even more confusing to begin "discerning" unrelated materials. Certainly, the Countdown "seers" and authors have provided more than enough!
Really really excellent. Goes in depth into the mysteries to be fulfilled....soon..... and so very simple to comprehend!
The CTTK site actually treats the whole question of these times w/ much included re: Revelation and projections about that in the writings of the contributors there which go beyond the seer/messages selected to follow that are current but that is only a portion of what is included on the site. There are several others that are also "slipped in" and there are many, many categories listed there as well. So here too people are using those writings and messages to extend to others who have similar messages that may add a little more or who back up what is being given to just these particular ones. Mark Mallett's writings given on that site beyond his other sites always provide many, many sources that go beyond the seers listed there alone. As just one example: The Era of Peace: Snippets from Many Private Revelations
I hope forum posters who say we spend too much time on the internet and should pray more, are able to understand that for some of us who are living with chronic illness, visiting the Forum or some other source is our only outreach. I get more prayers done than poster ellen earlier suggested, so maybe there is hope for Julia. But finding open minded opinions of the messages and visions that we hear about, gives us a better perspective on all that is going on in the world. True, some members flog their opinions like a dead horse. Sigh. I am always somewhat amused by the term, some FOLLOW this visionary and some FOLLOW that messenger. I don't follow any of them. I follow Jesus Christ, and am usually searching for a soul who is able to make me feel, Jesus or Blessed Mother might actually be speaking to them. It gives me great hope searching for that pearl of great price. It doesn't take me long to stop reading messages that don't feel right, and I usually keep my opinions to myself; because I have found some members have expressed great help in their faith from locutionists or visionaries, that do nothing for me. And I would hate to be that fly in their ointment. My responses to the Fr Michael debate are based on that theory. Being honest, charitable and non judgemental works best in my book, usually! Of course the Faith is everything we can desire and more; but come on. If the Bible was enough, we would all be saints and never come near the internet, or be interested in any claims of the supernatural. Who would not want to hear about Fatima, Lourdes, Mount Carmel, Divine Mercy and all so many beautiful communications from Heaven. Of course we need to be sensible and not swallow every tittle from messengers. It beats talking about the weather, and people have always thrived on testimonies. That is how the Apostles, spread the Good News of Jesus Christ. Rant over and out.
Julia, I totally understand your appreciation of this forum as a place of refuge for those of us who are housebound and alone and in need of support and encouragement of our Faith. I too use this place to meet that need . My complaint was meant to be a suggestion not a criticism! That morning ... that is usually devoted to my "battle time of prayers" was used up(by me) in mindless ,futile arguing. I was simply sharing that frustration!
in the catholic church the Bible alone was never enough, as tradition comes first. but these things do not make anyone holy. holiness is achieved through a long life of prayer, reparation, penance and asceticism. we also have the church mystics and doctors with their writings to help us, and we also have the revelations prudently recognized by the church. but even with all this there are people who prefer to read every day a false revelation or a false locution, that tomorrow you already forgot and will have to go back there to follow the new chapter of this soap opera. it is clear that this attitude is of someone who was lost spiritually. just see who accompanies luz de maria or vassula with their automatic writing and thousand and thousand of others obscure and unimportant revelations from “a soul” etc. this makes the person come under the influence of spirits from hell and gradually this influence leads the person to lose the discernment of the spirits. after a while she starts to believe everything, even more so than nowadays the false revelations are identical to the real ones. it is a good place to fall into deception and never get up again. This is already happening to very known people. dealing with a lot of revelations is not the will of God. Nobody is prepared for this. No saints of the past did this. this is an enemy trap to beat souls.
The demon will try to mislead the faithful by several ways. First, by the false messages of course, but also by having us waste precious time trying to discern which are the true apparitions from false ones, when we should be concentrating on the true messages already given and approved that always say the same thing: stop sinning, go to confession, change your life, pray for sinners, pray the rosary and go to Mass. Basically, stop being Catholics in name only and live your faith. The real messages are very simple, we should not be looking for novelties and trying to discover “new secrets” of heaven. Satan will also create confusion as those who believe the false messages in faith, not out of malice, will defend them, and in the process, further the confusion. They will either destroy their own reputations, or those of others who try to oppose the false apparitions. Satan is very crafty and knows how to manipulate people and create disunity.)
And, who is the arbiter of true and false messages? I totally reject the notion that one should only follow approved messages, as this itself is fallible, since all approved messages were once alleged messages. I have asked the naysayers of the MOG forum how they determine what messages within CTTK are true and false and I hear.............silence. I tell the naysayers of alleged prophecy that for me, it is quite simple. 1) nothing in alleged prophecy is contrary to scripture or church teaching. 2) The alleged prophecies do not stand alone, but for the most part within a consensus of other credible/trustworthy Catholic prophecies of the current. Prophecy is a gift of the Holy Spirit and scripture tells us "do not despise prophecy", which goes against the naysayers of alleged prophecies pending fulfillment. Being Catholic has always meant being open to the Spirit and His gifts of prophecy and discernment. To believe different goes against church teaching and scripture itself. Has any approved prophets, such as at Fatima, Lourdes, Guadalupe, Akita etc..... not been criticized by the naysayers of their time, along with clergy in doubt? Look at the more recent prophecies fulfilled at Kibeho. Those young prophets were deeply persecuted with what they foretold and three months later 10's of thousands were slaughtered. The naysayers of our recent time dismissed these prophecies as well, but it took a genocide in order for the church to "approve" these messages. Scripture makes clear prophecy is how heaven has always foretold of eminent disasters and we know our Lord himself said most cannot read the signs of the times and 'as it was in the day's of Noah, so shall it be when the Son of Man returns'. So here we have it from our Lord himself that most will not acknowledge God's prophet's and will suffer the same fate as those naysayers in Noah's time. Nothing new under the sun.
following this crowd of visionaries with thousands of locutions is not a Catholic attitude, but it is very close to playing with demons. In fact you criticize those who have a true Catholic practice, because you got lost in a practice very similar to witchcraft with your daily soap operas, atitude never done by the saints
Dear Julia, thank you, I totally agree with your sentiments about visiting this forum, and would add "old" and living with chronic illnesses. Blessings
It is not quite true there is only "silence," on the question of how other posters determine whether messages--within CTTK or elsewhere--are true or false. I posted detailed information taken from the Vatican website, "Norms Regarding the Manner of Proceeding in the Discernment of Presumed Apparitions or Revelations." The Norms document was published in English within the past ten years. Previously, the Church had held confidential the norms it applied. These were known only by bishops and theologians. But, because of a large number of claimed apparitions from the 1960s on, and because of a spike in misinformation circulating among the faithful, the Vatican made these guidelines public in our times. [Edited] Anyone can refer to them, for help in discerning an alleged visionary/locutionist. The document is on the Vatican website, http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...cfaith_doc_19780225_norme-apparizioni_en.html There have also been discussions on MoG on these guidelines. You can find them using the forum's search engine. Finally, there is at least one post on the changes in rules, which occurred during the time of Pope Paul VI. Before Paul VI's papacy, Catholics were not permitted to publish speculations on alleged apparitions, or on the subject of private revelations, without receiving an imprimatur. This rule was changed as part of the general loosening of rules and regulations that came after Vatican II. Reportedly, Pope Paul VI came to regret allowing widespread, unregulated dissemination of materials on alleged apparitions. But, the former rules were not re-established. Like many Vatican II innovations, the results have been mixed.
Yes, There has always been the truth of our Holy Catholic Church! who gives directives and norms in regard to the Manner of Proceeding in the Discernment of Presumed Apparitions or Revelations; and this was so, even in my grandmothers day! Common sense and Church doctrine was adhered to back then!...... because Catholics followed Church teachings and church rulings! a very wise decision, in my opinion! But alas this Catholic adherence has long gone. The following is my opinion after meditating upon all the prophesies put up by the cttk people that abound today. Today prophesies (many false, I believe) state platitudes of God's special protection to a specially chosen few of God's faithful catholics , and it always seems to be due to their "exceptional goodness!". So when a sound catholic, offers caution to these prophesies, they become targets of extreme vitriol, animating from those that believe they are numbered among the specially chosen few named in the prophesy!? Many saints like St Maximilian Kolbe and many other saints were especially chosen by God and became victims of the world tenets of their times! Would these saints, spew vitriol to other Catholics? Would they denounce them as naysayers, because they were prepared to die for their faith? I think Not! May we (all Catholics! those that believe they are especially chosen for an escape refuge, and those that are prepared to die for our Lord), always remember ...... That God loves all of His created children and no one is more special than another! as Mother Theresa said..... " the poorest of the poor are the closest to God!"
Thanks for that. At the same time that is scary to me. It explains to me why so many false mystics are not being checked. That is not how the Church used to handle it and it is very vague and can be carried out many ways. In fact, it seems to me it is the source of the problem. And allowing everything to be published unchecked opened Pandora's box, literally the gates of hell were released. It's what is wrong with Queen of Peace Publishing for years. I mean why do they even publish Leary?