I read that the Chinese vaccine is the traditional type of vaccine. It's not approved for a vaccine passport so our health authorities must consider it to be inferior. Are there any vaccines using tried and trusted methods being developed outside China? Also, not very long ago China was being portrayed by our Lords and masters as the poster child for how to manage a pandemic. What are the infection and mortality rates in China now? It's not that I trust their statistics but the people telling us how well China was doing must have trusted the Chinese stats then, or was it only the good citizen passports that made credible Chinese statistics?
Novavax is one that is a traditional vac that was supposed to be out but has had several delays. I’m hoping it is soon as my understanding is it is made with non abortive cell lines , is traditional vac, and very effective but this update seems to imply we may still need to wait at least in the US. https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2965
Guess what. Its not the unvaccinated who are dying of covid. In one fortnight in the south of Ireland recently 40 people died of covid all vaccinated.
No because they can't go against the narrative, or they risk losing everything. They are bought and paid for.
Yeah right?!? Saw an article this morning here in NH, stating we have the highest covid positive cases nationwide. It went on to state the unvaccinated are the root cause. In my department 9 people are out sick with it only 2 were unvaccinated. But only the unvaccinated are required to wear N95 masks under our surgical mask. What a warped world.
Although not an mRNA vaccine, I think that Novavax may not be a vaccine in what I understand to be the traditional style. Please forgive my ignorance of these matters when I try to explain what I mean. I understand a traditional method to be one that isolates the virus, somehow neutralises and replicates it before putting it in a vaccine. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that. I recall Dr. Mobeen being very enthusiastic about Novavax and I watched one of his videos about it, most of which went way over my head so my attention was inclined to wander. Something that stuck in my mind concerned the spike protein. Maybe I completely misunderstood him but I thought he said that Novavax only contains pieces of a spike protein rather than the full spike as used in other (non-mRNA) vaccines. Novavax seems to be more like the AtraZeneca or Jansen vaccines than Pfizer and Moderna but that doesn't mean it's the old fashioned type of vaccine. Also, I have a vague memory of reading somewhere, maybe on this forum, that they did use abortion tainted cells at one stage of the Novavax tests. I think it was the last stage of the test, and I remember my suspicious mind thinking that nothing gets US approval without some link to abortion. Wasn't there talk early in the pandemic of a Vatican linked effort to develop an ethical vaccine? Whatever happened to that?
I keep hearing Maine has one of the highest positivity rates but we got lots of kudos for being over 60%vaxxed. Shaking my head.
I’m only a novice here so I cannot speak to details- only what I’ve read about Novavax. So, welcome input from others. Here is link and description of how it’s made: For Novavax's protein subunit vaccine candidate (known as NVX-CoV2373), spike protein is made by infecting cultures of insect (Spodoptera frugiperda) cells with a baculovirus that's been altered to contain genes for making the spike. The cells then churn out spike proteins, which are purified and mixed with an adjuvant to make the vaccine. https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93166 and in chart from Lozier Institute it lists Novavax will using aborted cell lines in the Confirmatory Lab Tests on Product which are defined as tests to analyze quality, nucleic acid or protein sequence, protein confirmation, antibody reactivity, etc. of final vaccine product. https://s27589.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/CHART-Analysis-of-COVID-19-Vaccines-02June21.pdf
Yes, I remember that. I also remember that Novavax did use abortion tainted cells in the test. I suppose the website Children of God would have more info.
In our town it is the unvaccinated that are dying. But that was their choice. 95% are all unvaccinated and most are under 50 year old.
Only people who wilfully end their own lives choose to die. Are you saying that anyone refusing to take the covid vaccines is suicidal?
What they chose was to refuse a vaccine. That doesn't mean they chose to die. May the Divine Physician grant them eternal happiness.
Pope Emeritus Benedict had no problem with the vaccine and has had three shots. He is a good example. God bless him.
It really disappointed me that even Poland has bought into issuing vaccine mandates. The worldwide normalization of governmental overreach, in what are suppose to be democratic societies, makes me believe that vaccinations, whether beneficial or not, have been weaponized as a step to tyranny. I don't believe it will be long before my hypothesis is proven right or wrong. I'll be overjoyed if it's the latter. O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.
Yes, May God bless the Pope Emeritus. That a Pope chooses to do something doesn't in itself make the act good. The official position of the Church is that nobody should be forced to take a vaccine. Let us all pray that our Bishops will speak out in defence of faithful Catholics who in good conscience have chosen to not take the vaccines which are currently available.
