Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    They get more funding if covid if among multiple diagnoses.

    I wonder what the legitimate death numbers are to only covid. I wonder where to find those stats.

    Sorry, I keep going back to the fact, while we were urged to shut in, all numbers shut up. We're going into winter when lots of people prefer to stay indoors. Naturally numbers will be much worse in addition to the cold factor. Get outside without a mask and bundle up!!
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  2. AED

    AED Powers

    Maine is surging. I was at MD today. They are very worried. Hospitals and ICUs filling up. I don't think they are lying. ...but maybe over cautious?
    The thought of losing Mass again is unbearable.
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  3. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    This is one promise Biden will keep. His 'dark winter' is a lockdown that will kill the economy. :(
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  4. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    Among other nightmarish things.
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  5. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

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  6. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    I must agree with this. Our Bishops need to be courageous enough to allow their churches to stay open for all public Masses. They need the courage to put their feet down & say NEVER AGAIN in my diocese!! I have personally made comments to my priests. I'm sure others have as well.

    My parish has not seen a known case, much less my choir.
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  7. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    I think it possible that all healthcare workers will be required to take the vaccine.

    I agree that we are being herded like sheep.

    I will take the vaccine when I'm confident that it is safe which will be around a year after it has been released to the general public. Meanwhile I will continue to use the protective measures that have kept me virus free thus far. In other words, I will avoid crowded places, keep my distance, wear a mask inside public buildings, use hand sanitiser and use alcohol wipes on food packaging and anything else coming into the house. And prayer.

    Some of my family are in the very high risk category. The news of a vaccine comes as a great relief for them: Some of them haven't been outside the house other than for medical appointments since the start of the first lockdown. If I were in their position, I would take my chances with the vaccine. I reckon that you would too if the highlight of your week were a visit to the optician.

    There's no one size fits all solution to this. I knew three people who died from covid. One had a a serious co-morbidity. One was in good health. Two died within hours of showing symptoms. The one with the co-morbidity died in hospital the night she was admitted. The one in good health died at home after saying he would have an early night because he didn't feel well. The third was found dead in her home when one of her children called in to check on her. None of them passed on the virus to anyone in their family. I'm acquainted with a couple of people who have it now. They are doing OK so far although one has been quite ill. Her husband is extremely high risk with a condition that had him close to death earlier in the year but so far the virus doesn't seem to be affecting him as badly as his wife.

    I'm rather concerned for youngsters going to school in winter. I'm told that the classrooms are not heated and the windows and doors are kept open. Most kids should be ok but asthma is common enough nowadays. Children coming from insulated, centrally heated and double glazed homes won't be equipped to cope with sitting in cold, draughty classrooms.

    Someone told me today that people who have had the virus can catch it again - that immunity only lasts for about six months. I don't know whether that's true but if it is, does that mean that people will need to be vaccinated a couple of times per year?
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  8. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Thank you for letting us know how awful the situation is where you are. I am sad for the loss of those people you know. It makes it real for me since we don’t know of anyone here in our immediate area who has had the virus.
    You are right to keep taking the important precautions. We try to do that as well. Prayer is the means to obtain the grace to stay well, if God allows.
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  9. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    Only one of the people who died lived in my area. Two were relatives but, thanks be to God, none of my close family have had the virus. And the two acquaintances who have it now don't live in this country. I am acquainted with a woman in this country whose brother died in a nursing home during the first wave. When I spoke to her she was devastated because the family couldn't be with him.

    I wish it was behind us. I hate not being able to go to Mass.
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  10. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    Or at least once a year like the flu?
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  11. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    Yes, if it's true that the antibodies aren't one and done.
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  12. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I listened to a Doctor, an expert and one of those who is on the American Authorisation Board for vaccines talk about the new vaccine(s) this morning. This was on BBC radio Four, a Liberal stronghold, very mainstream. The Doctor too was very much part of the Elite International Medical Establishment.

    I was busy so only caught some of what he was saying bu t what he did say shocked me. He said that because the testing of the virus was rushed far quicker than it would normally have been they are not fully apprised of its effects on certain people.

    Such as say:

    Pregnant women.

    People who are very vulnerable (such as people who are already very weak or ill)

    Young people.

    ...and the list went on.

    He also stated that this is a novel vaccine and a novel world mass vaccination programme. In other words we have never had a vaccine like this before and we have never administered a vaccine in this globalist mass form before. Because this is all we new we cannot really be sure what is going to happen.

    I am sorry I did not listen to the Doctor closer but I never,ever expected so much total honesty from an Establishment Mouth Piece like the BBC.

    Another thing about the vaccine which is really novel is this thing about it having to be stored at -80. I never heard of such a thing before. This is totally novel. In such things we want tried and trusted not Novel.

    Also how come it suddenly appeared right after the US Election?

    People have been conditioned to be terrified of this virus, terrified people are easy to manipulate.

    It all seems so very,very convenient to me. The same people who want to rush you into taking this are the very same people who believe in things like Abortion , Euthanasia, Sexual Depravity and a Godless Society....why or why would we rush to trust such Luciferian Governments and individuals?

    Every time, for instance, I look at pictures of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris I actually cringe. If this pair recommend taking the vaccine that is as good a reason as any for me to run for cover.

    Also an awful lot of people are contracting this virus with no harmful effects whatsoever, so there is a good argument we are building up a natural herd immunity anyway.

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  13. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    It’s a chastisement. Not being able to go to Mass is an unfathomable hardship. Please accept my condolences on the loss of your relatives and friends.
    I completely trust your instincts on this.
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Remember that Bill Gates had a big meeting in October 2019 to share his ideas of what we should do in the event of a pandemic. He was a real mind reader:eek::D
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  15. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I think it is often very difficult for good people or people who have lived fairly sheltered lives to realise how totally Satanic and evil some people are out there. But there really are such people. There really , really are, loads and loads of them.

    We tend to judge people by ourselves and think to ourselves,

    'Well I would never do something like that!'' and then to think no one else would.

    I remember for instance when the cases of child molesting priests started to come out. What a very,very difficult time I had to get my head around it. I , like many other Irish people of my generation had such a total respect and admiration for priests. A reverence.

    I admit I am still playing catch up with this wickedness.

    Innocence is not a bad thing, but I think it can blind us.
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  16. padraig

    padraig New Member

    The thing about the vaccine too is this. Once you permit them to put it in your body you cannot get it out again.

    It is there forever.

    You cannot change your mind. It is irreversible.
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  17. AED

    AED Powers

    As Hamlet would say "Aye. There's the rub."
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  18. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    This is it, people cannot accept the evil. I used to be this way too, until I finally opened my eyes.
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  19. padraig

    padraig New Member

    It is the same thing with the Devil. I thought I believed in him and maybe I did too in a way. But when you come right up face to face with him, then you know.

    With truly evil people it is the same thing. When you meet then then you meet the devil. It is a big shock to the system. But a huge lesson.
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  20. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    You are right. And these days we can even identify the evil sneer or off kilter smile.
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