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  1. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Another week has passed and I am sure that you all know that the growth of this virus is exponential now once again. This could be due to the fact that more tests are available but it is best to air on the side of caution.

    Here are the new numbers.


    And here are the graphs of the active cases (blue - currently infected) and the closed cases (green- recovery rate and orange - death rate).

    upload_2020-3-17_9-34-12.png (Click on this link for more info.)

    And HAPPY SAINT PATRICK'S DAY to everyone here!!!

  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Here he is, Pope Leo XIII.
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  3. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Thank you for this post. And I am glad that you wished us a Happy St. Patrick's Day! Thank you.
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  4. HeavenlyHosts

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  5. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Prayers for all those who have died and those that are ill and for their loved ones and for their parishioners if that be the case etc. +

    Seven Italian priests have reportedly died of coronavirus

    Msgr. Vincenzo Rini. Credit: Diocese of Cremona
    Cremona, Italy, Mar 15, 2020 / 09:58 am (CNA).- A Catholic priest has died in Italy from coronavirus, and local Italian media reported Sunday the death of several others. No priests have previously been reported dead from the global pandemic, which has struck Italy more gravely than nearly any other country in the world.

    Monsignor Vincenzo Rini was a priest of the Diocese of Cremona, close to Milan, and near Italy’s epicenter of the pandemic. Rini died Saturday.

    Msgr. Rini ran Cremona’s diocesan newspaper for 30 years, and was at one time the president of the Italian bishops’ news agency. He was also a novelist, and a noted literary expert, who served as the Church’s liaison to the Cristina di Savoia Cultural Congresses, which aim to promote Christian culture in Italy.

    In Avvenire, the newspaper of the Italian bishops’ conference, journalistic colleagues of Rini wrote that the priest “represented an open window to hope, the virtue that had always characterized his life.”

    He will be buried in the chapel of the diocesan cemetery in Cremona. Bishop Antonio Napolioni of Cremona, himself recovering from coronavirus, expressed his condolences to the family and friends of the priest.

    In addition to Rini, 6 priests in the Diocese of Bergamo have been reported dead of the coronavirus by Italian news site CNA has not been able independently confirm the Bergamonews report.

    According to Bergamonews, Bishop Francesco Bechi told Italian journalists that in addition to six priests in his diocese who have died of the virus, 20 others have been hospitalized.

    Bergamo, a city northest of Milan, has been identified as the region most afflicted by infections of coronavirus in the country.

    More than 21,000 people in Italy have been infected with coronavirus, and nearly 1,500 have died.

    Priests in other countries have also been afflicted with coronavirus. Earlier this month, a French priest was hospitalized with the virus, and last week a priest in Peru was among the first patients to be hospitalized for coronavirus in that country.

    This story is developing and has been updated after publication.
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  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I had no idea. Thanks for posting.
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  7. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    In our area it is still possible to go to Adoration once in awhile. At least three parishes are having Confession. There is still crowd control.
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  8. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    This could be posted in a lot of places but since we are discussing death often on this thread I chose to post it here.

    God and Hell

    Fr. Thomas G. Weinandy, OFM, Cap

    Sunday, March 15, 2020

    Note: This is the first of two columns offering Lenten reflections by Fr. Weinandy on the proper understanding of Hell.

    The question of whether everyone is saved, and thus no one goes to Hell, was debated (and censured) in the early Church, as well as in the wake of Hans Urs Von Balthasar’s 1987 book: Dare We Hope “That All Men be Saved”? Recently, this dispute has intensified with the publication of David Bentley Hart’s book: That All Shall be Saved: Heaven, Hell, and Universal Salvation.

    Though I have not yet read the book, I gather from the various critiques and his response that Hart adamantly argues and definitively concludes that everyone is ultimately saved. Thus, no one will reside everlastingly in the pains of Hell.

    I do not want to tackle Hart’s arguments directly, here. Instead, I want to attend to some questions that I believe are pertinent and, from what I have read, have not been adequately addressed.

    First, it’s commonly argued that since God is all-good and all-loving, he would not allow anyone to be punished forever in Hell. Such eternal damnation would be contrary to his supreme love and goodness – his all-consuming mercy and forgiveness. I would hold, instead, that God’s goodness and love demand Hell’s existence and that it is forever inhabited by the damned.

    Because he is goodness itself and love itself, God loves all that is good, and therefore, by his very nature, he must hate what is evil. Evil, by its very nature, is an affront to and an attack upon God himself. If God tolerated or excused evil, or if he thought it to be of little account, he would not be all-good and all-loving, for he would sanction and so participate in evil itself.

    He would then be a malevolent deity, a God who does not possess genuine concern for what is morally good, just, and upright. Thus, God himself, in his very goodness and love, is the foundational principle that validates the possibility of Hell.

    Second, while God does not hate those who perpetrate evil, for he is their good Creator, yet he does hate, he cannot endure, the evil they do. Those who willingly and knowingly do evil are incapable of dwelling in his all-good and all-holy presence. They simply are not morally suited to abide with him.

    Because of this sinful situation, the Father, in his love, sent his Son into the world, not to condemn sinners but to save those who believe in his incarnate Son – that they may not perish but possess eternal life. (see Jn. 3:16-17). The Father eternally and lovingly wills that “we should be holy and blameless before him,” and so become “his sons through Jesus Christ.” (Eph. 1:4-5) We perceive God’s lavish mercy and compassion in the crucified and risen Jesus.

    Third, not every evil act makes a person completely abhorrent to God, but some evil acts so conform someone into an evil person that, unless they repent and undergo change of heart, they can never abide in God’s presence.

    This is why the Catholic Church distinguishes venial from mortal sin. (1 Jn. 5:16-17) Even venial sins must be purified, either in this life or in purgatory after death. Only then can the venial sinner enter fully into the presence of the all-good, all-holy, and all-loving God. Those who knowingly and willingly commit mortal sins, and remain unrepentant in this life, deprive themselves forever from entering into the full, heavenly presence of God.

    Intrinsically evil acts – such as murder and adultery – are specified in the Ten Commandments (though not every act prohibited in the Ten Commandments is necessarily a mortal sin, e.g., “small” lies).

    Other examples can be found, for example, in St. Paul’s letters (e.g., Gal. 5:19-21). Paul warns that those who do such evil acts, if they remain unrepentant, “will not inherit the kingdom of God.” Every sin conforms a person to the likeness of the sin committed, but some sins are so evil that they can completely stamp or seal moral character – making someone a murderer, thief, fornicator, adulterer, deceiver, and hater. Mortal sins justly exclude the unrepentant sinner from God’s good presence.

    Fourth, we should understand that those who have perpetrated such heinous evil acts and have remained unrepentant here on earth are repulsed when, at the moment of their death, they are confronted with the all-good, all-holy, and all-loving God. It is utter folly to think that those who die in mortal sin will be overwhelmed by their vision of the all-loving and good God and so will immediately repent of their sin and love him everlastingly in return.

    They will indeed be overwhelmed, for they will not be able to bear the sight of someone so radically and utterly different from their own evil selves. They will straightaway flee in repugnant disgust and fearsome hatred. The last place they will want to be is in God’s presence, and they will never want to be there for all eternity.

    Thus, while, from one perspective, they are eternally condemned by a just God, yet, from another perspective, they have willingly and eagerly cast themselves into their own everlasting damnation.

    Is this not all rather frightening, to say the least? That is why the Church, in her motherly concern for her children, has, for centuries, accentuated the importance of Lent. Lent is a time for turning away from the evil of sin – sin that can lead us to everlasting death – and for turning towards the mercy and forgiveness found in Jesus Christ.

    Lent is not simply a time of purification, it is also a season of holiness – a time to grow in goodness and love, a time to conform ourselves to the likeness of God, in whose image we were created and now recreated in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. Thus, the sacrament of confession is opportune and may be a necessity. Moreover, our participation in and love for the Eucharist ought to increase, for there we meet him who is our life and our salvation.

    *Image: Law and the Gospel by Lucas Cranach the Elder, c. 1529 [Herzogliches Museum Gotha, Germany]

    About the Author:
    Fr. Thomas G. Weinandy, OFM, Cap.
    Thomas G. Weinandy, OFM, a prolific writer and one of the most prominent living theologians, serves as a member of the Vatican’s International Theological Commission. His newest book is Jesus Becoming Jesus: A Theological Interpretation of the Synoptic Gospels.
  9. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    This is a good priest. Great article.
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  10. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    (y) I would try anything at this point.
  11. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    I second that, Happy St. Patrick's Day!
    I have been praying to this great saint for my grandson who is ill, his name is Patrick, and he is an Irish step dancer.
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  12. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    Our Mother has given us a heads up on these times.
    Go to Confession & don't worry. I need to get there myself, in the midst of preparing for my Saturday move!
  13. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    I recall an episode of Little House on the Prairie when a fever epidemic swept through the town. It was quinine that saved them.
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  14. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!


    Isn't chloroquine for malaria?
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  15. Hydroxychloroquine SULFATE
    COMMON BRAND(S): Plaquenil

    GENERIC NAME(S): Hydroxychloroquine

    Hydroxychloroquine is used to prevent or treat malaria infections caused by mosquito bites. It does not work against certain types of malaria (chloroquine-resistant). The United States Center for Disease Control provides updated guidelines and travel recommendations for the prevention and treatment of malaria in different parts of the world. Discuss the most recent information with your doctor before traveling to areas where malaria occurs.

    This medication is also used, usually with other medications, to treat certain auto-immune diseases (lupus, rheumatoid arthritis) when other medications have not worked or cannot be used. It belongs to a class of medications known as disease-modifying antirheumatic drugs (DMARDs). It can reduce skin problems in lupus and prevent swelling/pain in arthritis, though it is not known exactly how the drug works.

    How to use Hydroxychloroquine SULFATE
    Hydroxychloroquine is usually taken with food or milk to prevent stomach upset. The dosage and length of treatment are based on your medical condition and response to therapy. In children, dosage is also based on weight. For malaria prevention, take this medication by mouth once a week on the same day of the week, or as directed by your doctor. Mark a calendar to help you remember. This drug is usually started 2 weeks before entering the area with malaria. Take it once weekly while in the area, and continue taking it for 4 to 8 weeks after leaving the area or as directed by your doctor. To treat malaria, follow your doctor's instructions.

    For lupus or rheumatoid arthritis, take this medication by mouth, usually once or twice daily or as directed. Your doctor may gradually increase your dose. Once you have been taking the medication for a while and your condition has improved, your doctor may instruct you to lower your dose until you find the dose that works best with the fewest side effects.

    If you are also taking a certain drug for diarrhea (kaolin) or taking antacids (such as magnesium/aluminum hydroxide), take hydroxychloroquine at least 4 hours before or after these products. These products may bind with hydroxychloroquine, preventing your body from fully absorbing it.

    Use this medication regularly in order to get the most benefit from it. If you are taking it on a daily schedule, take it at the same time each day. Take this medication exactly as prescribed. Do not stop taking it without talking with your doctor, especially if you are taking it for malaria. It is important to continue taking this for the length of time prescribed. Stopping prevention or treatment too soon may lead to infection or a return of the infection.

    Inform your doctor if your condition persists or worsens. It may take several weeks or months to see improvement if you are taking this for lupus or arthritis. Hydroxychloroquine may not prevent malaria in all cases. If you experience fever or other symptoms of illness, seek immediate medical attention. You may need a different medication. Avoid exposure to mosquitoes. (See also Notes section.

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  16. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Oh so sweet
    Will join you
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  17. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Appears if you put your face mash in the freezer it kills the bug.
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  19. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" Powers Staff Member

    That link was funnier than the dog picture :D:D:D seriously Yahoo answers :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: that is were all the banned trolls live ;);)(y)

    Just a note on Quinine I have used it in the past for serve muscle cramps but its not recommended long term or in high doses,you will get small amounts from tonic water at the end of the day if our body's have built a small resistance to the virus by using things like tonic water cider vinegar etc wisely will some resistance is better than none.....
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