Coronavirus

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Coronavirus By the Numbers – 83% of Affected Countries Have Mortality Rates of Infected Persons Less than 1%

    According to the most recent data at Worldometer tracking website, the coronavirus mortality rates for individuals catching the virus are declining at a rate closer to the numbers we expect to see in a typical flu virus as the denominator continues to increase on a global scale.

    According to the most recent data the mortality rate for those infected with the coronavirus is getting closer to what you would expect from a normal flu virus and in many cases is less.

    The elderly are hit the hardest by the coronavirus and this is similar to the flu where 90% of the deaths come from individuals age 65 and over.

    According to the US Surgeon General Jerome Adams the average age of death of the coronavirus is 80-year-olds:

    U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams said children and young adults are “much more likely” to die from the flu than the coronavirus, stating that the average age of those who've died from the novel coronavirus is 80-years-old.

    The death rate for the coronavirus appears similar to the flu as the death rates are highest among the elderly:

    The death rate soars to 14.8% in those 80 and older; among those ages 70 to 79, the COVID-19 death rate in China seems to be about 8%; it’s 3.6% for those ages 60 to 69; 1.3% for 50 to 59; 0.4% for the age group 40 to 49; and just 0.2% for people ages 10 to 39. No deaths in children under 9 have been reported.

    There are no recorded coronavirus deaths of infants up to 10 years of age according to the worldometer website as well, where the data below comes from.

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    * 115 countries (and the Diamond Princess) have confirmed coronavirus cases



    * 80% of countries with confirmed cases report no deaths



    * Seven countries report more than 100 cases and no deaths (Sweden, Belgium, Norway, Singapore, Austria, Malaysia and Bahrain)

    * 83% of affected countries have mortality rates of those infected less than 1%

    * 88% of countries identified with citizens carrying the coronavirus have mortality rates less than 2%


    * South Korea’s mortality rate is less than 0.72%

    * Overall mortality rate minus China, Italy and Iran is 1.1%

    * 19 of the 27 deaths in the US were at one senior center in Washington state


    Death numbers from CoronaVirus in America are incredibly misleading. Out of US 26 fatal cases, 23 were in King County, Washington (88.5%). Out 162 Washington state people infected, 116 are in King county (72%). Most of them in Life Care Center of Kirkland https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/coronavirus-number-confirmed-cases-more-than-100-virus-moves-more-counties/XIDPHMLVOJAAREQ5YCL75367PU/ …

    * US mortality rate minus Washington Senior Center is 1.1%

    The best advice on how to handle the coronavirus comes from the doctor below:

    Dr. Milton Wolf
    This doctor’s advice for surviving the Wuhan #coronavirus:

    1. Stay calm.

    2. Wash your hands.

    3. Turn off the garbage news media.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...es-affected-are-lower-than-typical-flu-virus/


     
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  2. What people might do while worrying!! And pretty easy for the elderly:

    Respiratory Muscle Exercises

     
  3. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    God bless Poland. We need more of this.

    In connection with the recommendations of the Chief Sanitary Inspector that there should be no large gatherings of people, I ask to increase – as far as possible – the number of Sunday Masses in churches – wrote Archbishop Stanislaw Gadecki. https://bit.ly/2Q14LKo
     
  4. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Effective today, per 'CDC recommendations', my parish has cancelled all religious education classes until further notice. There have not been any reported cases of COVID-19 in our town. :(
     
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  5. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    Wow. Imagine Roman car traffic with each car one meter apart from the other...
     
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  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Dolours, you may have revealed more than you intended when you mentioned your secluded mansion. Be very careful not to reveal the exact location.:D
     
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  7. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I wondered along those lines recently. The decisions of the homosexual lobby factor heavily in Church developments.
     
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  8. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    China was the model, perhaps. Didn’t they resort to mass cremation? We don’t know for sure, do we?
     
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    No one quite seems to know why Italy got hit so bad, or why the death rate is so severe. I listened there to the Professor in charge of the ICU's in the Lombardy region and he hazarded some guesses. But he seemed very unsure.

    We're only at the start of this everyone is guessing. It's just some people are more honest about the fact that they are guessing.

     
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  10. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Either the Eucharist is the Body of Christ , or it is not.

    Those who truly believe it is the Body of Christ , the source and summit of the Mystical Life will want Churches open and Masses to continue.

    Those who think it is just a piece of Bread will want the Masses stopped and the Churches closed.

    Our Holy Father the Pope and the Italian Bishops rush to have them stopped and Churches closed.

    What did the Church do in former times when Plague struck. Well there is a Special Mass in many Missals to be said in Times of Plague. The people then what Good Catholics would naturally want to do and that's pack the Churches to the rafters, begging God's Mercy.

    I think closing the Churches and stopping the Sacraments is a very grave insult to the Providence of God.

    A very, very grave insult indeed.

    But what do you expect? These people have no Faith at all in the Supernatural and are Apostates.

    I doubt that in any real sense they believe in God at all. Perhaps in some very vague wishy , washy way, pink cloud, floating about out there somewhere kind of way.. But a Real Living Faith? No ; not at all.
     
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  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...-black-death/CC4DA6E1820835707D52447075A568E2

    'In the mid-fourteenth century the Black Death inflicted one of the most devastating losses of life in human history. This was met by exercises of collective piety such as the singing of psalms and the celebration of special votive masses, which encouraged social cohesion in the face of the tragedy. This article presents results from an analysis of fifty-seven manuscripts containing copies of the monophonic ‘Recordare domine’ Mass, reportedly created at the behest of Clement VI at Avignon during his Black Death-spanning pontificate. Of these, seven manuscripts contain fully notated renditions of each of the chants for the Mass Propers, enabling us to decouple questions concerning the organisation and transmission of the melodies from those of the texts set to them. When the different versions of the Mass are compared, two major findings emerge. First, differential patterns of consistency within the texts and melodies suggest that the texts of the ‘Recordare domine’ Mass may have circulated separately from the melodies set to them, with the choice of music left to the discretion of the local performing clergy. Second, the patterns of variation between different versions of the Proper texts and melodies allow us to see how a variety of composition strategies (including mnemonic processes) were used to create new music for the mass. The ‘Recordare domine’ Mass thus sheds light not only on the performance of organised sacred music at a pivotal point in European history, but also more generally on the processes of chant composition as a tool for use in response to social stress.'

     
  12. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Absolutely Padraig, the doors to our Churches should opened wide, and filled to the rafters. God bless the Holy Priests who encourage the faithful to come to Our Father's house to pray for mercy.
     
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  13. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I would say that probably the most astonishing act of bare faced public hypocrisy was the closing of the healing baths at Lourdes.
    So on the one hand they say that they believe Our Lady came down from heaven and left us waters to heal the sick.

    Now they are saying that the very same healing waters could make us sick or kill us.

    How does that work?

     
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    Katfalls Powers

     
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  15. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" ADMIN Staff Member

    My thoughts exactly Andy I had planned to go through the thread and shift posts of topic to another thread but unfortunately didn't have the time...

    Back on subject
    I heard a lovely thing today a person said instead of the recommended singing happy birthday twice whilst washing your hands why not say two Hail Mary's :love: maybe the world would be in a better place
     
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  16. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" ADMIN Staff Member

    I think it could be Italy had a very big hit of seasonal flu (3 million cases) just before covid 19 hit
     
  17. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" ADMIN Staff Member

    Matthew 23
    Jesus Denounces Scribes and Pharisees
    23 Then said Jesus to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat; 3 so practice and observe whatever they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice. 4 They bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with their finger. 5 They do all their deeds to be seen by men; for they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, 6 and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues, 7 and salutations in the market places, and being called rabbi by men. 8 But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. 9 And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. 10 Neither be called masters, for you have one master, the Christ. 11 He who is greatest among you shall be your servant; 12 whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

    13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither enter yourselves, nor allow those who would enter to go in. 15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you traverse sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves.

    16 “Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘If any one swears by the temple, it is nothing; but if any one swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.’ 17 You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that has made the gold sacred? 18 And you say, ‘If any one swears by the altar, it is nothing; but if any one swears by the gift that is on the altar, he is bound by his oath.’ 19 You blind men! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 So he who swears by the altar, swears by it and by everything on it; 21 and he who swears by the temple, swears by it and by him who dwells in it; 22 and he who swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by him who sits upon it.

    23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law, justice and mercy and faith; these you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. 24 You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!

    25 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you cleanse the outside of the cup and of the plate, but inside they are full of extortion and rapacity. 26 You blind Pharisee! first cleanse the inside of the cup and of the plate, that the outside also may be clean.

    27 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within they are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28 So you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but within you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

    29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30 saying, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 Thus you witness against yourselves, that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. 33 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell? 34 Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, 35 that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of innocent Abel to the blood of Zechari′ah the son of Barachi′ah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. 36 Truly, I say to you, all this will come upon this generation.
     
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  18. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    I am becoming more and more convinced that it's due to that Pachamama idol. I think it will continue until Italy collapses or until Pope Francis humbles himself and, like Pope Gregory, leads a procession of reparation as well as a reconsecration of St. Peter's.

    While typing this, I realized this could be the trigger that leads to the election of a false pope. The current Apostolic Constitution requires that the College of Cardinals assemble within the Vatican by (IIRC) the 21st day after the death of a pope. If in fact Italy suffers a total collapse, where the cardinals cannot come to the Vatican either because the airlines stop flying there or because all of the roads are closed or too dangerous to travel on, then a valid conclave cannot be held and a valid pope cannot be elected.
     
  19. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    Just for giggles I fired up the stopwatch on my smartphone and tried it, and yes! Two Hail Marys, reverently said (i.e., not like an auctioneer), takes just 30 seconds! Just the right amount of time.

    Now, in the midst of debates about taking the Holy Eucharist on the tongue or by hand, we have to debate the honor given Our Lady by praying to her while we're in the "restroom"/"bathroom".
     
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  20. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    Come to think of it, my Dad was asking me what was in the Roman Missal about these things and receiving Eucharist. He was glad to hear I picked up a newer copy (1968).
     
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