Climate Change

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Fatima, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    The thing about people like Gretta and her family is that utilizing people like them at a function such as the UN climate meeting does nothing but divide people and her handlers know it. So mission accomplished on that behalf.
    Nobody in their right mind believes the garbage she is spewing (none of which is "proven science") and people who do are so far out on the fringe of society that they have created a new religion. That makes everyone who does not agree with them appear to be unsympathetic and uncaring or as she insinuates... Evil.
     
    DeGaulle and AED like this.
  2. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Yep, me too. I just make sure to smile and nod at Thanksgiving when they have their one sided conversations. It's just not worth the effort to argue with zealots.
     
    Tanker, Sam, AED and 2 others like this.
  3. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    :love::LOL::p
     
    AED likes this.
  4. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    That poor impressionable girl has no idea that it is the people now manipulating her who jeopardise her childhood. The ones who give credit to this nonsense are the insane.
     
    Mario, HeavenlyHosts and AED like this.
  5. AED

    AED Powers

    Yep. Pretty much.
     
    HeavenlyHosts likes this.
  6. MMM

    MMM Archangels

    It's good to have a brain washed 11 year old at the ready to yell at people. :D
     
    AED likes this.
  7. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    AED and DeGaulle like this.
  8. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The virtue-signaller-in-chief.

    Unfortunately, the Irish are too meek and stupid to follow the French 'yellow-vest' example.

    The majority of our country-men can't resist the adulation of the foreigners they perceive as their betters.
     
  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    :D:D

    Greta Turnberg's face is a picture...when she ran into Donald Trump.

    [​IMG]

     
    Don_D likes this.
  10. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Greta Thunberg accuses us of ruining her childhood, but she has done an amazingly successful job of that herself, without our help.
     
    Heidi, Blizzard and padraig like this.
  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I don't mean this unkindly but the poor child is not well. She should be at home with her parents getting helped.

     
    Blizzard, HeavenlyHosts and Carol55 like this.
  12. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

     
    Don_D and Carol55 like this.
  13. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Padraig, I don't mean to be unkind either but I don't think that her parents are protecting her the way that they should be.

    I can understand that she is passionate about "Climate Change" but she is beginning to come across a bit too angry, imho.

    In addition, these young people like herself I believe are often hypocrites. I don't mean to be unkind again by saying this but hasn't she heard of Skype. I mean couldn't she had stayed at home and not missed school and not flew thousands of miles from Sweden to NYC and thereby created less CO2 in a sense. Wouldn't this have been more effective way to state her message.

    I caught a little bit of Tucker Carlson's show last night in which he talked about Greta's speech a little bit and I saw today that he got a lot of backlash from what he stated. Good for Tucker speaking up about these difficult topics.

    If you click on the link you can watch and listen as opposed to reading the following, https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-kids-threat-climate-change-politicians - it's not too long either.

    Tucker Carlson: Pols who used kids to gain power may be a greater 'existential threat' than climate change?
    By Tucker Carlson | Fox News | 9/24/2019

    We hope you had a happy weekend. If you did, hold on to those memories. It might be the last relaxing moment you'll have for a while. We're about to wreck your peace of mind.

    It turns out that all is not well on this blue planet of ours, far from it. Indeed, it appears that the Earth itself is facing what we're going to call tonight, an existential threat from climate change.

    Now, what does the term "existential threat" actually mean, you ask? Honestly, we don't know. But it sounds absolutely terrifying.

    CLIMATE CHANGE PROTESTS SNARL DC TRAFFIC AS BIZARRE SCENES UNFOLD IN CAPITAL

    Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., presidential candidate: The climate change is real. It is an existential threat to our country and the entire planet.


    Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., presidential candidate: If NATO is about the common defense, the biggest existential threat is climate change.

    Former Vice President Joe Biden, presidential candidate: This is climate change. It really is the existential threat.

    Julian Castro, presidential candidate: We're going to have to address the most existential threat to our nation and the world, climate change.

    Beto O'Rourke, presidential candidate: On climate change, the greatest existential threat that we face.

    Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., presidential candidate: We are facing a climate crisis, it represents an existential threat to who we are as human beings.

    "A threat to who we are as humans." Well, there are a number of questions here. Let's see if we can unpack them.

    The first one: is climate change real? That's an easy one. Of course, it's real. Climate always changes.

    If you're in the United States, for example, the ground that you're standing on right now was not so long ago really covered with glacial ice a mile thick. Now, it's not covered in glacial ice a mile thick. So what happened?

    What happened is climate change. That's been happening since the Earth cooled. Is human activity accelerating climate change? Can we reverse or slow climate change? Despite what they tell you, no one really knows.

    But the real question here has nothing to do with climate science. It has to do with people who pretend they understand climate science. Do those people actually believe what they're saying?

    This is what climate activism has become -- a performative stunt, mixed with hypocrisy. These are the people who promised to crack down on your cheeseburgers while flying across the country, on private jets.

    Well, let's see. Here was Kamala Harris recently talking at a CNN town hall about how red meat contributes to the absolutely existential threat of climate change.

    Harris: As a nation, we have actually have to have a real priority at the highest level of government around what we eat and in terms of healthy eating, because we have a problem in America.

    Erin Burnett, CNN host: But would you support changing the Dietary Guidelines?

    Harris: Yes.

    Burnett: You know, the food pyramid, what people are eating?

    Harris: Yes.

    Burnett: So reduce red meat specifically.

    Harris: Yes, I would.

    Got that? Kamala Harris is a good person, and because she is a good person -- a much better person than you are -- she cares about the existential threat of climate change so much, that she is willing to forgo red meat. That's what she told CNN viewers recently.

    But when she is in the pork producing state of Iowa, though, it's a very different story. Just this past weekend, Harris attended the Annual Polk County Democratic Party Steak Fry. She took her turn working the grill posing for the cameras.

    And by the way, so did all of the other Democratic candidates. Liz Warren was there, Beto O'Rourke, even Cory Booker, who says he is a vegan. Organizers grilled more than 10,000 steaks over the weekend. Tape of the event shows plumes of ozone destroying meat smoke rising heavenward. The candidates standing amidst all of this seemed wholly unconcerned.

    Are you surprised? Don't be surprised. This is what climate activism has become -- a performative stunt, mixed with hypocrisy. These are the people who promised to crack down on your cheeseburgers while flying across the country, on private jets. No one says a word about it.

    Last week, millions of concerned progressives took part in the so-called climate strike. In their wake, they left mountains of litter. On Monday in Washington, climate activists demanded change by blocking roads, causing gridlock, and throwing confetti on the ground.

    Well, if you're under 40, you might be surprised to learn that people didn't use to express concern about the environment by littering. That used to seem weird, but then the point of environmentalism used to be about nature and preserving it and protecting it.

    The point now is very different. The point now is political power. You gin up a crisis and you demand the population submit to your will, or else. And as you do that, of course, you don't need to fight fair or acknowledge democracy or make a rational case for your position. You do whatever it takes. You'll even use children, if it helps.

    Just today, for example, a 16-year-old Swedish girl named Greta Thunberg addressed the United Nations at the behest of climate activists. Here's part of what she said:

    Thunberg, climate change activist: This is all wrong. I shouldn't be up here. I should be back in school, on the other side of the ocean. Yet, you all come to us young people for hope. How dare you? You have stolen my dreams, my childhood with your empty words.

    We are in the beginning of a mass extinction, and all you can talk about is the money and fairy tales of eternal economic growth. How dare you? If you really understood the situation and still kept on failing to act, then you would be evil, and that I refuse to believe.

    [​IMG]Video
    You stole my childhood? Do what I want you to do, or else you're evil?

    How do you respond to statements like that? The truth is you can't respond. And of course, that's the point.

    When you use children to demand power, they become a kind of human shield. You can hide safely behind them, no one can criticize you.

    But who would do something that unscrupulous? Anyone who would do that is someone who would literally do anything to seize control. And that's exactly what they're doing.

    Adapted from Tucker Carlson's monologue on "Tucker Carlson Tonight" on Sept. 23, 2019.

    Blizzard, I was in the midst of posting the same thing, more or less. :ROFLMAO:
     
    padraig and Blizzard like this.
  14. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Haha! not easy to beat you to the draw! ;)

    [​IMG]
     
    Carol55 likes this.
  15. Female, age 16, is drama queen phase, be aware.
     
    HeavenlyHosts likes this.
  16. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    My daughter goes to a very good catholic school, but even her science teacher is talking about man made climate change and its negative impact. My father and I debate her all the time but she says I need to talk to her teacher because he is a science teacher and knows. So now I will bring out the big guns. Actual factual articles from scientists. Actual understanding of what is really going on in the world and what is quite natural. Many scientists actually talk about the earth has shifted on its axis. That's why things seem a little off. For example. It is much hotter now these past few years into October for me and summer seems to start a month later than normal. The Inuit people up in the arctic pointed out a large shift for the earth back in 2015. They noticed the sky had changed. Earth tilting on its axis is quite normal and a total shift occurs about every 600,000 years historically where the magnetic poles completely shift and change. She is very bright but needs to read up on stuff more. The problem in school is that Science, for example, used to teach all sides of the arguments, but sadly, if one teacher believes in something, that is what they teach. His belief vs what science is supposed to do. Discuss the total picture. There is a definite, liberal agenda in schools, if you ask me. Even the Catholic schools. We, as parents, have to step in at home and show them both sides of the argument. The youth are very smart. Let them come to their own conclusions, but they must have the total story.
     
    HeavenlyHosts, sterph, Sam and 2 others like this.
  17. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    A popular meme on Twitter:

    Why was it ok to criticize one 16-year-old but not the other.

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I think, in fairness, Carol she came across to the states in a special carbon saving yacht and it took her a whole two weeks at sea. As well she travelled around Europe only by train which must have been a killer.

     
    HeavenlyHosts and Carol55 like this.
  19. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    LOL OH NOEEEES STOP THE MEAT SMOKE!!!

    Tucker cracks me up.
     
  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    If he had did what he had claimed to have done, I think it had been very fair to criticise him. The difficulty arose in that he was innocent.

    If he showed signs of being very unwell I think it would have been fair to say that too. But he seemed perfectly normal.

    In either case I would see no harm in calling a spade a spade.

    Greta should be at home getting care.

    https://quillette.com/2019/04/23/se...eater-good-greta-thunberg-and-child-activism/

    'Greta is eleven years old and has gone two months without eating. Her heart rate and blood pressure show clear signs of starvation. She has stopped speaking to anyone but her parents and younger sister, Beata.


    After years of depression, eating disorders, and anxiety attacks, she finally receives a medical diagnosis: Asperger’s syndrome, high-functioning autism, and OCD. She also suffers from selective mutism—which explains why she sometimes can’t speak to anyone outside her closest family. When she wants to tell a climate researcher that she plans a school strike on behalf of the environment, she speaks through her father.'
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2019
    Andy3 and DeGaulle like this.

Share This Page