Fatima, I am sorry. I ask your forgiveness. I wasn't kind. I was not nice in the above post. I can see, you would believe the words of a prophet above and over my explaining the sequence of events. My limited style of writing and past frustration. I would share the fact, prophecy states the anti-Christ come before the Era of Peace at that other Catholic forum using yet to be approved private revelation, they would say no. I said, do not be stuck in only reading the approved. My last effort there, I shared, I believe, a quote from St. Pio, the anti-Christ comes before the Era of Peace. Questions for Padre Pio. Q: Did the prophet Elijah die? A: “He disappeared in a chariot of fire. Maybe he is in paradise. He will come at the end of times to fight the Antichrist." http://caccioppoli.com/PADRE PIO and Cleonice.html
Everyone is happy you posted Verne, that you are here. It is really something you not knowing the faith or raised in it, you went ahead and wrote down what you heard! Another it seems to me to show, that the messages are true. You must of listened intently more than anyone in the room, to Father Altier's instruction on the faith (humor). I remember in first reading GSWYL, the emphasis on, believe the prophets. 4/07/06 I Peter 4:17 The Lord will judge his people: For the time is, that judgment should begin at the house of God. And if first at us, what shall be the end of them that believe not the gospel of God? What is the house of God? Today it is the church the new Israel. To understand this better, briefly study the nation of Israel. The children of Israel were God’s chosen people. Time after time God warned his people through the prophets. His people rejected the prophets and God judged his people. 8/29/07 Remember,my children of Israel did not enter the Promised Land because of lack of faith. Hebrew 3:12. Take heed brethren, lest perhaps there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, to depart from the living God. Vs 19. And we see that they could not enter in, because of unbelief. A whole generation perished in the wilderness, because of unbelief. Only Joshua and Caleb entered the Promised Land. This should be a sober lesson for my people for today. I repeat myself, for the time is short. 10/15/07 A final warning: please re-read the exodus of my children of Israel.(Numbers 26; 51, 65) This is the sum of the children of Israel, that were reckoned up: six hundred and one thousand seven hundred and thirty. For the Lord had foretold that they should die in the wilderness. And none remained of them, but Caleb the son of Jephone And Josue the son of Nun. (I Corinthians 10:11) Now all these things happened to them in figure: and they are written for our correction, upon whom the ends of the world are come. My people, take heed to this lesson. Only two men who originally left Egypt entered the Promised Land. Josue and Caleb trusted in the Lord, without sanctifying grace. What excuse, do you my people have today for not trusting in the Lord? You have received many more graces then Josue and Caleb did. You have sanctifying grace and the Holy Trinity residing in your soul. For I the Lord, prophesy to you again: You will not enter my era of peace without complete trust in the Lord and You will not enter the era of peace if you are not living daily the consecrations which have been made to my Mother’s Immaculate heart and my Sacred heart.
Jackie, I accept your apology. I, like you any everyone else, are just trying to put all the pieces of the puzzle together. For me there is a puzzle piece that many leave out. It is the puzzle piece that our Lady of La Sallette spoke of, which is the short era of peace (25 years), which other messages do not speak of www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1846sallette.asp. So my understanding is that there are two era's of peace. The first one being the era of peace Our Lady of Fatima prophesied after the consecration of Russia and the other comes after the 25 years of peace and the anti-Christ in the flesh called the Eucharistic reign of Christ (the era of peace of 1000 years living in the Divine Will). Enoch and Elijah did not die. I contend they will return prior to the 1000 year era of peace preaching to the ends of the earth until their death immediately before the long era of peace of living in the Divine will. Their death will initiate the worst of heaven's wrath, which will be climaxed with the 3 days of darkness. I could be convinced otherwise, but it would have to be a persuasive argument against the two era's of peace using sound prophecy and scripture.
Thank you Fatima and likewise, you and everyone at MOG are dear to me. We love the faith and have a devotion to the messages from Heaven. We all try to connect the messages. I could be wrong on the sequence of prophesied events. Right now, MO, we are in the time of Tribulation but not yet the Great Tribulation ( it is close). In my reading, I thought there is one Era of Peace (living in the Divine Will), the Eucharistic reign of Christ. The Era of Peace comes after the Warning, the Great Miracle, after the period of time called the Great Tribulation where the faithful are protected at the refuges from the anti-Christ and his evil. At the end of all this period of terrible Tribulation, God destroys evil with the Chastisement by fire (the three days of darkness). Satan is cast into hell, God renews the earth and the faithful enter the Era of Peace to live in this new period of time, the 7th Day. It could be a 1000 years, only God knows. I am not very familiar with Our Lady of La Salette, that there are two Eras of Peace. There could be and I am wrong. I really thought the Era of Peace was the 7th Day. God's final period of time is so far off, there is not as much current prophecy concerning it, I interpreted the messages to say, after the Era of Peace, Satan is released from Hell for a final battle with man. I never read Our Lord say in prophecy, the anti-Christ is released from Hell. I wasn't aware until I saw a quote mentioning this per my search because of our posts to each other. The anti-Christ is part of that final battle too but the anti-Christ's main coming is before the Era of Peace. And in the 8th Day, at the end, Our Lord returns for the Final Judgment.
Jackie, Our Lady of La Sallette does not mention two era's of peace, she only mentions one short lived one of 25 years before man goes bad again. We have not had this era of 25 years of peace yet that I am aware of. The 1000 year era of peace is the one that other credible messages speaks of. It is the one that you refer to as well. So it seems there is indeed 2 era's of peace, unless someone is willing to say Our Lady of La Sallette is either a liar or her messages there that were Church approved were invalid. It seems to me that perhaps 1) after the Warning, when all on earth will know of Jesus and his one true Church 2) along with the Marian miralce at Garabandal, 3) and perhaps the 5th and final dogma of Mary is declared excathedra, and 4) the Pope consecrates Russia to Mary's Immaculate Heart that God will grant an the first era of peace that Mary foretold at La Sallette and the Fatima prophecy our her Immaculate Heart Triumphant will be fullfilled.
Fatima, I am going to have to read Our Lady of La Sallette messages. I really never knew this, thanks. Your numbered list makes sense for a shorter time of peace. The only thing, I thought the Warning was also a warning of the anti-Christ's plans and his soon coming, within weeks after the Warning? There's so much discussion and info about the "chip" being true, that it is in Obamacare. There's the control thing again, do not look at the anti-Christ and we will be controlled if we take the chip, seems they would both happen in the same time period. Certainly not a period of peace. I like your "perhaps", I hope so.
I have a hard time believing the mark of the beast will be a chip but maybe that is just me. I feel that a chip could be misleading and some could take it not knowing what it is. For me the mark will have to be a known decision fully knowing the consequences that will come by taking it. I just don't feel Stan will be able to deceive with his mark unlike all the other deceptions he is capable of. The mark for me is allegiance to him and to have allegiance one has to willingly give themself over. Now that does not mean it can't be a chip as long as you know what the chip means and is for.
Upon reading Verne's messages a second time, the one on 7/14/07 struck me with clear understaning. "My church is being purified. This is the most important sign of your times. I Peter 4:17. For the time is that judgment should begin at the house of God. And if first at us, what shall be the end of them that believe not the gospel of God? The gates of hell shall not prevail against my church as I told you. Reference Matthew 16:18. My church has suffered greatly through the scandals of the past years, but it is being purified. Tell an unbelieving mankind, the purification of my church is almost accomplished. Then, will come the purification of the ungodly". These words seem to indicate there are two periods. The first period (the purification of the Church)is happening now and will continue up till the 1st era of peace (25 years) that our Lady of La Sallette and our Lady of Fatima foretold with her Immaculate Heart Triumph and era of peace. This purification of the Church will continue as other Marian apparitions have revealed, right up and through the distruction of Rome by Russia and other evil forces. The Church must be purified 1st. I believe what our Lord may be saying in the messages above is that the 2nd purification, which will takes place after the 25 years of peace, will be reserved for the "ungoldy", those who did not accept the Warning and conversion offered by Jesus. This second period will be the time of the anti-Christ and unltimate 3 day's of darkness and end of this world.
Hi Andy3, The second underlined, isn't the anti-Christ going to try and deceive the world with the appearance of first being good? The "mark" if a person does not have a strong faith, some will take the chip when you can't buy or sell without it. And you clarify with your last sentence, nice. I am not sure about every messenger except for MDM not being true. And I do not know what happened to the Two Patricks. I share a couple of messages... Have we not read this in the prophetic for many years to prepare us? It is happening, evil Obamacare contains the chip. The Great Warning will also be a revelation to NOT take the mark for some in the world do not realize and God is going to warn of the anti-Christ's plans. God would reveal this ahead of time. The plan of evil is to mark you or haul you off to the internment camps if you refuse to take the chip. God knows your mind and heart about whether you choose to fight it or accept the chip. There will be martyrs, thinking of the camps. Believers will go to the refuges "on eagle's wings" before evil arrives at your door. The faithful will be guided to the holy refuges by their guardian angels. The 'chip' is a mind controlling device, it is the Mark of the Beast. A current message confirms an older message. Message to John Leary Thursday, January 9, 2014 Jesus said: “My people, there are plans to place chips in the people as a part of the new Health Care law. The digitizing of medical records is getting ready to be used in the coming chips in the body. This is the mark of the beast that will be forced on people so they will need it to buy and sell their food and water, but My faithful will not take it. I have warned My people not to take any chips in the body, even if they try to kill you for not using the chip. When chips in the body are made mandatory, then My faithful will need to seek My refuges to protect their bodies and souls.” + + + Yahoo Groups - Seers 2 message #4495 Message from Blessed Mother October 16, 2004 I am your Mary, the Mother of My Lord. Time is winding down, My family, to a point where the winds of change will make itself known and have its day in the affairs of men. Pray, my children, as Jesus has said for these lost souls that they will hear the voice of their Shepherd and respond to His call of love and mercy. For truly, my loves, all sins no matter how great can be forgiven, but you must come to the altar of God with a repentant heart and confess to your Lord. Let Gods love melt your pride and arrogance before this world melts down with Gods chastisement and your opportunity to seek refuge in Jesus heart will be eclipsed by a New World Order and domination by the Anti-Christ. Seek His heart now, my loves, while you have the light and freedom to worship your Lord and become strong in your faith and conversion. For once the anvil falls and world domination destroys democracy, those already not tethered to Jesus merciful heart will find the underpinnings of their life ripped out from under them and will fall prey to the computer chip and the rote, mechanized world of darkness, devoid of God and His glory. Think not that this is a science fiction fantasy, my loves, for I speak truth and the Mark of the Beast is ready to be inserted in the willing and the unwilling alike. Only those tethered to Jesus will be spared and have their wits about them to stay sheltered in His tender Heart come what may. For He is your only refuge and strength. Partake of Him and His love this day, my family, and be a part of His remnant caravan that He will safely lead to the Promised Land. I am your Mary, the Mother of my Lord. Amen.
Fatima, hi, Boy do I learn things here. Our discussion about the anti-Christ appearing before the anti-Christ and after the Era of Peace. I was aware from private revelation saying his appearing "before" the Era of Peace. Initially, the "before" was my stance and the "after" was yours. We both changed. The "after" I did not realize or recently believe you (sorry ) until I read someone sharing Father Iannuzzi has written this. And reading the discussion at MOG and at UTA. Mark Mallet and Father Iannuzzi are both of the same belief which is different from some watchers at Unveiling the Apocalypse and a few here. I share below excerpts to Mark Mallett's writings, a guide to the sequence. Now I see why there could be the two Catholic groups, each with their belief on the sequence. ~ ~ ~ A HEAVENLY MAP Here is a chronology of events as understood through the writings of the Early Church Fathers, the Catechism, and Sacred Scripture, and further illuminated by the approved private revelation of mystics, saints, and seers. - THE TRANSFIGURATION { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=468 }: This current period in which the Mother of God is appearing to us, preparing us for, and leading us to a significant intervention of God?s mercy in an "ILLUMINATION OF CONSCIENCE" { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=448 } or "warning" in which each soul sees himself in the light of truth as though it were a miniature judgment (for many, a process already begun; cf. John 18:3-8; Rev 6:1) . It is a moment in which souls will perceive to one degree or another either their path of eternal punishment, or path of glory, according to how they have responded during this TIME OF GRACE (Rev 1:1, 3) { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=328 } just as Jesus was transfigured in glory, and yet simultaneously faced the "hell" that lay before Him (Matt 17:2-3). I believe this also correlates with a period in which Jesus said we would see tremendous upheaval in nature. But this, He said, was only "the beginning of the LABOR PAINS." (see Matt 24:7-8) { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=375 } - THE GREAT SIGN { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=502 }: Following the illumination, a permanent sign will be given to the entire world, a miracle to bring healing and confirmation to repentant souls (Luke 22:51). The degree of repentance after the warning and Sign will be the degree to which the following chastisements (Rev 6:3-17) { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=497 } are lessened. - THE GREAT SCATTERING (Zec 13:7) { <http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=435 }: A FALSE PROPHET { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=451 } will arise as an instrument of purification seeking to trump with false signs and wonders the Great Sign { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=502 }, deceiving many (Rev 13:11-18; Matt 24:10-13). The Holy Father will be persecuted and driven from Rome (Matt 26:31), and the Church will enter into her own Passion (CCC 677) { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=262 }. The False Prophet and Beast, the ANTICHRIST { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=463 }, will reign for a short period, persecuting the Church and martyring many (Matt 24:9). - The THREE DAYS OF DARKNESS { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=499 }: the "time of the tomb" ensues (Rev 6:12-17, Wis 17:1-18:4), possibly produced by a comet, as God purifies the world of evil, casting the False Prophet and Beast into the "fiery pool," and chaining Satan for a symbolic period of a "thousand years" (Rev 19:20-20:3). - The FIRST RESURRECTION { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=477 } occurs (Rev 20:4-6) whereby the martyrs are "raised from the dead" and the surviving remnant REIGN { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=465 }with the Eucharistic Christ (Rev 19:6) in a time of peace and unity (Rev 20:2, Zec 13:9, Is 11:4-9). This coincides with a New Pentecost, which propels the Gospel to the very ends of the earth in a New Evangelization (Matt 24:13-14, Is 11:9), bringing about the conversion of the Jews (Rom 11:25-26, Jer 30:18; 31:1-12). It is a spiritual ERA OF PEACE { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=396 } and justice, symbolized by the expression "one thousand years" in which the Church is truly made whole and holy, preparing her as a spotless bride (Rev 19:7-8, Eph 5:27) to receive Jesus in His FINAL COMING IN GLORY { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=495 }. - Toward the end of this Era of Peacee, Satan is released and GOG AND MAGOG { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=484 }, the final Antichrist, assembles the pagan nations to war upon the Church in Jerusalem (Rev 20:7-10, Ez 38:14-16). - CHRIST RETURNS IN GLORY (Matt 24:300) { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=495 }, the dead are resurrected (1 Thess 4:16), and the surviving Church meets Christ in the clouds in its own ASCENSION (Matt 24:31, 1 Thess 4:17) { http://www.markmallett.com/blog/?p=484 }. The Final Judgment commences (Rev 20:11-15, 2 Pt 3:10), and a New Heavens and New Earth are ushered in (Rev 21:1-7), where God will reign forever with His people in the New Jerusalem (Rev 21:10). http://www.pdtsigns.com/The_Illumination_Sign_and_Chastisement_near.html
This is the very best and coherent breakdown of the era's of the spirit of the anti-Christ (from the time of Christ through the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the 25 years of peace foretold by our Lady of La Sallette) and then the very last paragraph our Lord describes the 2nd Tribulation, the anti-Christ and False Prophet and the end of the world, which ushers in the 1000 years of peace in the Eucharistic Reign of Christ on earth. Reading the chapters mentioned in the messages below, in the Book of the Apocalypse, makes perfect sense to me. I love this discourse as follows from Verne's messages. My understanding is in red. 1st Tribulation, The Spirit of the anti-Christ, The Great Apostasy, Warning, The Miracle, Chastisements, Triumph of Mary's Immaculate Heart and the promise of an Era of Peace from Our Lady of Fatima (25 years as per Our Lady of La Sallette) 09/26/07 My son this is a message to clear up confusion in your mind. Remember there are many voices in this world trying to deceive you. Not every voice which claims to speak the word of God is from God. For my word states: Dearly beloved, believe not every spirit: but try the spirits if they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus is not of God. And this is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh: and he is now already in the world. You are of God, little children, and have overcome him. Because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. I John 4:1-4. Read I John 2:22. Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father and the Son. Read I John 2:18. Little children, it is the last hour: and as you have heard that Antichrist cometh, even now there are become many Antichrists: whereby we know that it is the last hour. My son as my word clearly states, you have been in the last days, since my church began. In every generation, false prophets and heresies have risen up to deceive mankind. Your generation is no different. You know you are in the last days because of the appearance of the spirit of antichrist. He has been manifested since his rebellion against my Father. The spirit of antichrist is Satan, who is the father of lies. Prior to my coming, he was not referred to as the spirit of antichrist, because the Christ had not yet appeared on earth. After my ascension into heaven, Satan has been described as the spirit of antichrist because he is against me. Notice I John 4:3 states: he is now already in the world and verse 4 states: You are of God little children. And have overcome him. Because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. When these words were written, my children, had already overcome the spirit of antichrist, who is Satan himself. I John 4:1-4 need to be understood in its entire context. It refers to the spirit of antichrist. I John 2:18 refers to many antichrists. The understanding to this passage is I John 2:22. Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father and the Son. In John 8:44, I told the Jews, the devil is a liar and the father thereof. Any person who is against me is being led by the spirit of antichrist and is an antichrist. If you deny that I am the Christ who came in the flesh, you are led by the spirit of antichrist and are an antichrist. Simply stated: antichrist is anti or against the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. A person led by the spirit of antichrist becomes an antichrist. I John 2:18 states: even now there are become many Antichrists. Throughout history there have been many souls, who fulfilled the criteria and were antichrists. Be careful who you label as an antichrist because Satan is a deceiver and you may be committing the sin of slander. The book of the Apocalypse is a vision of the sufferings, struggles, and triumph of my church. The prophet Daniel has many prophecies which correspond with the book of the Apocalypse. Daniel 12:9 states: And he said: Go, Daniel, because the words are shut up and sealed until the appointed time. My Holy Spirit will unseal the prophecies and give an understanding at the appointed time. Many are prophesying your generation is the fulfillment of these prophecies. Pay close attention to the words of your Popes. Both of your last Popes have stated you are in the battle of Apocalypse 12 between the woman and the dragon. The woman can have several meanings. It is both my church and my blessed Mother who are fighting against the dragon, who is Satan. The third part of the stars of heaven who are cast to the earth, represents the clergy, cardinals, bishops, and priests, who are following the dragon. Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI have warned the faithful, not to be seduced by the dragon. Another spiritual meaning from this passage refers to the great battle which is taking place between the woman and the red dragon of masonry and communism. My blessed Mother’s appearance at Fatima was a sign from heaven to mankind to not be seduced by the lies of masonry and communism. My blessed mother appeared prior to the Bolshevik revolution in 1917 to warn the world of these errors. This struggle is still continuing today. My blessed Mother is the prophet of your time. Pay close attention to her approved apparitions and pay close attention to the Holy Father’s teachings. My Holy Spirit is opening the book of Daniel and the Apocalypse through my blessed Mother’s teachings, my Holy Church’s teachings, and the messages from my messengers of today. Remember Amos 3:7: For the Lord God doth nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets. The message from 9/25/07 describes the Fatima consecration in more detail to you. As explained to you, on 9/25/07 by my Father, masonry and communism are once again gathering forces in your world. The destruction of these forces will be accomplished by the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Continued........
Continued.... My son, I ask you how are you protected from these evil forces? By receiving the seal of the living God. Read Ezekiel 9:6: Utterly destroy old and young, maidens, children and women: but upon whomsoever you shall see Thau, kill him not. And begin ye at my sanctuary. So they began at the ancient men who were before the house. Now read Apocalypse 7:3: Saying: hurt not the earth nor the sea nor the trees, till we sign the servants of our God in their foreheads. What is the seal of the living God? It is my life residing in your soul. It is sanctifying grace. You are sealed by the Holy Spirit at baptism and confirmation. Those who claim you need a special seal from God to be protected, be wary of. 2 Corinthians 1;21, 22. Now he that confirmeth us with you in Christ and that hath anointed us, is God: Who also hath sealed us and given the pledge of the Spirit in our hearts. Again re-read I John 4:4: You are of God, little children, and have overcome him. Because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. These children of mine had already overcome the spirit of antichrist in their day. The same teaching has not changed. When you use the sign of the cross, you are also protecting yourself with the seal of the living God. It was through my cross the power of Satan, sin, and death was defeated. Each holy eucharist partaken increases my Divine life within your soul. My people where is your faith? If you have sanctifiying grace in your soul, you are protected from the spirit of antichrist. Do not let Satan deceive you otherwise. If God be for us, who is against us? Romans 8:31. My son, a day is soon coming when Apocalypse chapters 13 and 14 will be fulfilled by the spirit of antichrist manifesting himself through a particular person called the antichrist. Do not concern yourself with this day. Many are deceived by Satan by concentrating on whom this person may be and not fulfilling my mission for their souls. Each generation has thought their generation was the fulfillment of these times. Let my Holy Spirit lead my church and your soul. Be forewarned! You are living in the most sinful generation in the history of your world. Your generation has been warned again and again. My holy word gives you examples of my justice: the flood of Noah, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the exile of the children of Israel. Your generation is no different. If mankind does not repent and continues to reject my mercy, I repeat my Father’s words to you from yesterday. I will allow another World War and I will allow the appearance of the man of sin in your generation. The fulfillment of the Apocalypse will take place with a literal one world government and my people grazed and marked by the authorities. There will be one man who will lead this Masonic communistic government as the antichrist. Many messengers have warned my people of these events for many years. But my people refuse to listen and take heed to my warnings. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao have been types of this antichrist. But my faithful, have faith and trust in my word. My Spirit with the brightness of my coming, will destroy this spirit of antichrist with his followers and bring about the triumph of the Immaculate Heartof Mary. 2nd Tribulation and the era of the anti-Christ, the False Prophet and the end of the World and the Eucharistic Reign of Jesus for 1000 years A further warning, Apocalypse 19:20 tells the fate of the false prophet and the antichrist. These two are cast alive into the pool of fire burning with brimstone. Do not accuse anyone of being the false prophet or the antichrist because their fate is sealed. Satan will not reveal their identity until allowed by Almighty God. My Holy Spirit will identify these men at the proper time, not your time. For when you falsely accuse another soul of being either the false prophet or the antichrist, you offend your God. All those falsely accused are souls that need my salvation. Pray for their salvation. It is your fear and lack of trust in me, which causes you to falsely accuse someone. Watch and be ready. Read accurately the signs of the times. Great changes are upon mankind. My church and earth will be purified and mankind will truly know I am Jesus Christ who once came in the flesh and who is the only Savior and redeemer of mankind. All who reject me are following the spirit of antichrist and will be cast into hell forever. Do not let this be your final destination. Do not be deceived, I will not be mocked much longer. These words are from Jesus Christ to his people.
Hi Verne. Can you please tell us a little about your friend Cletus? He seemed to be a holy man. How did you meet, why were you drawn to him etc.... Thanks,
this is something which I just found today. I do not know what to do with this. I appreciate your comments. sorry I downloaded pg 2 twice. I am not the most savy with computers
This totally confirms what I'm learning about living in the Divine Will! Thanks so much for sharing this!
Again, very profound words. In line with sound reason and doctrine of the faith. I concur with Kathy, these messages fit the Luisa's messages on the Divine Will. Have you received any additional messages since these in 2010?
Verne, I suggest that you share it with the priests in the St. Paul, Mn. that your other messages were given to for discernment. I think they accompany your other messages from earlier.
Here are the bible passages referenced in the above message not mentioned in the text: 2 Peter 3:8-9 But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years* and a thousand years like one day.g h The Lord does not delay his promise, as some regard “delay,” but he is patient with you, not wishing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.h Hebrews 12: 5-11 You have also forgotten the exhortation addressed to you as sons: or lose heart when reproved by him; for whom the Lord loves, he disciplines; he scourges every son he acknowledges.” Endure your trials as “discipline”; God treats you as sons. For what “son” is there whom his father does not discipline?c If you are without discipline, in which all have shared, you are not sons but bastards. d 10They disciplined us for a short time as seemed right to them, but he does so for our benefit, in order that we may share his holiness. 11At the time, all discipline seems a cause not for joy but for pain, yet later it brings the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who are trained by it. Matthew 13: 22 The seed sown among thorns is the one who hears the word, but then worldly anxiety and the lure of riches choke the word and it bears no fruit.
