Church Militant statement on the Pope

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  1. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    This video is great
    Everyone should see it
    It’s not too long
    Very Catholic
     
  3. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I watched it. I can not get over how much damage has been inflicted on the Church by these men. It is staggering.
     
  4. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. Staggering.
     
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  5. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Couldn't agree more. The most recent statement by Cardinal Cupich is proof if ever proof were needed that they are treating Christ's Church like a political party. It's only five years since Pope Francis was elected. Everybody with the mildest interest in the Church, and certainly all the Bishops, can't have been unaware of the epidemic of dissent from Church teaching in the Jesuit Order, yet they went ahead and installed a Jesuit Pope. The dogs in the street have been barking about the McCarrick scandals for years, yet the Bishops say they were shocked when they could no longer turn a blind eye to it. Only a handful of Bishops are willing to acknowledge that McCarrick was a practising homosexual preying primarily on seminarians. Only two of them - Bishops Stickland and Morlino - appear to be willing to face up to the threat to the Faith of a predatory homosexualised priesthood. It's very possible, perhaps even more than likely, that they got their statements out before the USCCB could insist on a "unified" approach consisting of a watered down "don't worry, we're doing something" kind of statement.

    Cardinal DiNardo's trip to see the Pope could very well be about giving the appearance that there will be a root and branch investigation when in all likelihood the fix is already in. That fix being one or two heads rolling, and Pope Francis being exonerated to go on his merry way turning the Church into just another secular humanist NGO following the dictats of atheist secular powers. There won't be any investigation into the Jesuits, especially their colleges in the US. There won't be any investigation into the activities of Fr. James Martin. There won't be any investigation into whether Catholic Charities' money was used to promote the lavender, contraception and abortion agendas in developing countries. There won't be any investigation into the Hierarchy's involvement with abortion and sodomy supporting "Pope Francis Catholic" politicians either in the US or elsewhere in the world. Neither will there be an investigation into the Jesuit connections to Podesta and his "Catholic Spring".

    Our hierarchy have lost their way, worshiping the created rather than the Creator. And it isn't just the hierarchy. Very many priests and pew sitters have followed their lead. Never, in all my life have I seen anything like the idolatrous treatment of Pope Francis. For the past year, various Churches have had life size pictures of him propped up beside or behind the altars where the Holy Sacrifice is being offered. Can you imagine any of the Apostles doing something similar with an image of Peter? It has been the same with homily after homily. They didn't even wait for him to go to his eternal reward before effectively canonising him. Having done that, Pope Francis could come out now and deny every single truth of the Faith and they would twist themselves inside out explaining it away rather than admitting their error.

    We have a way to go before Jesus purifies His Church. Right now, the Hierarchy are supping with the media and atheist devil and the handle on the spoon grows ever shorter. Perhaps it's as well that their secular masters are sucking the Church coffers dry because when the likes of Cardinal McCarrick and his buddies have no more funds to dole out to unsuspecting Third World prey, they will desert the sinking barque, revealing themselves for the miserable vermin that they are.
     
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  6. padraig

    padraig Powers

    God has given you such a clear pair of eyes to see with Dolours, bless you. The question is why so many others are blind..and leading the blind.

    Matthew 15:14

    Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."


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  7. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    It took me a long time to open my eyes, Padraig. Like many other people, I bought into the media assassination of Pope Benedict and wasn't sorry to see him retire. Pope Francis was well settled on St. Peter's chair before I started smelling a rat. I suppose I could say that Pope Francis did me a favour because I have changed from a mostly obligatory Sunday Mass Catholic to being very serious about the Faith.

    That statement by Cardinal Cupich could have been written by one of Obama's speechwriters - right down to the "racist" comment. He's trying to rile up the cafeteria base against any faithful Bishop. He's no different than the likes of Spadaro, Martin and others who have set a pattern of launching personal attacks on anyone daring to ask a question. Look at how they and their media hacks went after the Dubia Cardinals. Looking back on it, Pope Francis set the tone when he used his atheist friend to tell us that he doesn't like Catholics. His response to the question on the 'plane was a message to his atheist journalist friends that they had better protect him if they want to see the Catholic Church get in line with their agenda. Maybe they're hoping the journalists will find out how much documentary evidence the Cardinal has in his possession before they decide what access they will give to investigators. I hope that Archbishop Vigano has (1) plenty of security and (2) copies of all the relevant correspondence. Didn't someone claim that a letter from the Pope's former Jesuit superior disappeared from the files?

    Anyway, there's little point in us speculating because we'll probably never know the whole truth. I'll keep praying that I'm wrong, but if they remove Cardinal Wuerl and replace him with someone who won't rock any boats we'll know that the fix is well and truly in. Some of the hierarchy will need surgery to remove the splinters from their bums when the Almighty knocks them off the fence. My money would be on someone like Bishop Barron replacing Cardinal Wuerl. Many here would be thrilled to see that and, in fairness, he would be an improvement on Cupich or Tobin.

    We must keep praying for Pope Francis and his friends no matter how suspicious we are. We need to pray especially for the Church because this is probably the last chance for the hierarchy to get things back on track. If they don't do it, God will, and the wrath of God is nothing to be sneezed at. Only the Germans or Americans have the clout to get this sorted and the Germans are a lost cause. We'll find out soon enough whether there's any salt left in the Americans.
     
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  8. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Persecuted Christians Keep the Faith – and Are Ignored by Those Who Don’t
    By William Kilpatrick

    Wednesday, August 29, 2018

    Note: Be sure to tune in tomorrow night as the Papal Posse rides again on EWTN’s “The World Over.” Host Raymond Arroyo, TCT’s Robert Royal, and Father Gerald Murray will discuss the extraordinary events of the last week. Check your local listings for the station in your area.

    Imagine that you find an envelope outside your door. In it are six bullets and a note: “With these six bullets we will kill you and your family.” Imagine that a few days later a box is left at your door with a note saying, “In this box we will bring your children’s heads.”

    For those who live in the West, it’s difficult to imagine such things, yet this is an everyday reality for Christians living in the Middle East and North Africa. Faithkeepers is a new documentary by the Clarion Project about Christians in Muslim lands who refuse to denounce Christ despite daily persecution, including rape, torture, and murder.

    The question is, who is keeping faith with the faith keepers? According to Aid to the Church in Need, some 215 million Christians worldwide face severe persecution, mostly at the hands of Muslims. Yet a recent poll of U.S. Catholics reveals that they are more concerned about climate change than the global persecution of Christians.

    Given a list of five global concerns, Catholics put persecution of Christians at the bottom of the list. The plight of LGBT families wasn’t on the list, but – seeing how thoroughly Catholics have been indoctrinated on the subject – one can imagine that if it were, it would be ranked as a more serious concern than Christian persecution.

    In fact, acceptance and inclusion of LGBT families was a main concern of the just concluded World Meeting of Families (WMOF) in Dublin. A featured speaker was Fr. James Martin, S.J.—one of the Church’s loudest voices on behalf of the LGBT community. Several other talks also focused on sensitivity to the special needs of LGBT individuals and their families. By contrast, as far as I can determine, only one talk out of approximately 100 presentations concerned the plight of persecuted families in the Middle East. Moreover, the two-page summary of the talk that I read contains neither the words “Christians” nor “Muslims.” Rather, the suffering families were portrayed merely as victims of generic “conflict.”

    The WMOF’s strange emphasis on the needs of LGBT families, and its relative silence on the plight of persecuted Christian families, signifies a grotesque loss of perspective on the part of the Catholic leadership. What ought to be secondary or even tertiary concerns have been elevated over primary concerns.On the one hand, Church leaders pay close attention to the concerns of a tiny minority (gays and lesbians make up approximately 2-3 percent of the general population, while transgenders are probably less than one-half of one percent) who pursue lifestyles that contradict Church teaching. On the other hand, the same leaders pay scant attention to the millions of Christians who are keeping the faith in the face of unrelenting persecution.

    As the Faithkeepers film points out, Christians in the Middle East face extermination. In 1915, Christians comprised 20 percent of the Middle Eastern population. Today the number is 4 percent and still declining.

    But the film doesn’t dwell on statistics. It wisely lets the victims tell the story: A young married women is abducted, bound, thrown into a room with two other female prisoners, and together with them is tortured and raped. All of them refuse to convert to Islam. A boy witnesses his father’s beheading, and becomes mute as a result, but experiences a miraculous recovery when his mother takes the family to a monastery in the hills. A family makes a dangerous escape in a car, with corpses on the road, bullets flying around them, children crying, and gas tank nearing empty.

    Meanwhile, back at WMOF, all the other concerns were overshadowed by the specter of a new global wave of clerical abuse and cover-ups. Unlike some of the other conference concerns, the scandals are not a secondary matter. They go to the heart of the sickness in the Church – not a lack of sensitivity, but a lack of fidelity to Christ and his commandments. By covering up the abuse, bishops and heads of seminaries have substituted worldly standards of non-judgmental tolerance for Christ’s “hard” teachings about sexual morality.

    The abuse scandals are doubly scandalous because they come at a time when the Church is entering a new era of persecution. Although the scandals certainly demand our attention, they also serve to draw attention away from the plight of persecuted Christians – a group that was not receiving sufficient attention to begin with. Unfortunately, the story of immoral clerics and cowardly bishop is – from a media perspective – a far more interesting story than the persecution of faithful Christians in far-ways places.

    There is another factor to consider. The abuse scandals have not only taken attention away from the persecution, they have also taken away much of the monetary support that could have been provided by the Church to the persecuted. Some of the hundreds of millions of dollars that dioceses have paid in hush-money settlements over the years might well have gone to help those Christians in the Middle East and Africa who live in situations of constant danger.

    Future Church historians will wonder at this gross inversion of priorities. They will wonder how the Church became so absorbed with sensitivity to sexual sub-cultures that it lost sight of a grave external threat to its very existence. They will also wonder why Church leaders in the early 21stcentury seemed more concerned with showing solidarity with Islam (witness the USCCB’s anti-Islamophobia campaign) than in showing solidarity with persecuted Christians.

    This lost perspective won’t be easily restored, but a film such as Faithkeepers is a step in the right direction. In an age when some Christians want the Church to sacrifice the faith for the sake of their own sexual preferences, Faithkeepersacquaints us with courageous Christians who are willing to sacrifice their lives for the sake of their faith. Attendees at the WMOF would have benefited if Fr. Martin’s tendentious speech had been replaced with a showing of this illuminating film.
     
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes we must pray for Our Holy Father the Pope and not give way to bitterness. This is true. Though it is also true we that we as Catholics myst never fear or run away from the Truth, since as Jesus said, 'The Truth shall make you free'.
     
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  10. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I see, 'Church Militant ', have tracked ex Cardinal McCarrick down to his current residence. It looks quite palatial, I wish I lived there. It certainly doesn't look to me like he is doing any kind of penance, in fact it looks to me like a big pay off. He even has a maid, believe it or not.

    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news...mccarricks-house-confronts-diocesan-spokesman

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    WASHINGTON (ChurchMilitant.com) - Journalist George Neumayr located the residence of former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, and afterwards confronted the archdiocesan spokesman.

    The 5,000-square-foot, two-story home is located at 4110 Warren Street, Washington, D.C., across the street from American University Law School. It has nine bedrooms and five bathrooms and is worth $2.3 million, according to a real estate site, and has been owned by the archdiocese for decades, going back to the time of Cdl. William Baum.

    The maid allowed Neumayr entry, where a brief conversation ensued, the woman claiming neither McCarrick nor Auxiliary Bishop Mario Dorsonville live there — a claim contradicted by Dorsonville himself when he arrived at the house.

    "I saw Wuerl's auxiliary bishop park his car in the garage and walk inside," Neumayr wrote on his Facebook page. "'I live here,' he said to me." Dorsonville then left the house, driving away and refusing further comment.

    Appointed by Pope Francis, Dorsonville was consecrated auxiliary bishop by Cdl. Donald Wuerl in 2015, and co-consecrated by close papal advisor Cdl. Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga, and serves as episcopal moderator for the Hispanic community. He was born in Colombia, originally ordained a priest for the archdiocese of Bogotá. Dorsonville has been in the Washington archdiocese since at least 1992.
     
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  11. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    It's exactly the same tactics we have seen here in the US for the last 30 years. Assassinate the messenger, deflect, project, and mock anyone as a kook who questions the status quo.

    It's all just a vast right wing conspiracy right?

    The narrative is set. Now, we are shown the scores of people flocking to support Pope Francis on social media sites like FB. Yet another tactic which is used to frustrate the opposition. Don't believe it. We are only being shown exactly what they want us to see and nothing more.
     
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  12. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Yes, they are the type of tactics which have nothing to do with the Holy Spirit. I'm not convinced, either, that the secular media or the Francis-adoring "Catholic" media knew nothing about McCarrick's activities. That he was a homosexual preying mostly on adult seminarians would have been enough for the lavender brigade to pass it off as consensual. Given their attitude towards sodomy, it would have been all good for them because it supported their agenda. The NYT sat on an expose about McCarrick for years, supposedly because they couldn't get verification. McCarrick, of course, was very cosy with the US Democratic party, and from what I've seen of the NYT, it's little more than a propaganda machine for the same party.

    Despite all the claims now that Pope Benedict did nothing to curtail McCarrick, there was a different tune being sung in 2014, for example: https://www.ncronline.org/news/peop...e-mccarrick-almost-84-and-working-harder-ever I suppose we should give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they, like the Bishops and celebrity priests close to McCarrick, didn't know what now appears to have been common knowledge about the former Cardinal's homosexual predatory activities. Perhaps they aren't as well-informed as they would have us believe, but they appear to have been very enamoured of his celebrity. The former Cardinal couldn't have had better publicity had he paid for it.

    I'm getting the impression that Pope Francis believes that whatever else people do, say or believe, they can buy their way into Heaven even if they do so using other people's money - provided the money is going to causes he approves of. The one thing all commentators agree on is that Cardinal McCarrick was a great fundraiser. That the Rainbow Lobby appears to have limitless funds to advance their agenda is never mentioned.
     
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  13. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    When spoke person of the Church blatantly lies to protect a enabler of evil...we have lost our way.

    :(



     
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  14. SteveD

    SteveD Powers

    Pope Heckled? I think so.

    At 1:04:26, a portion of the crowd starts to chant something that sounds very much like 'Vigano' (with the accent on the 'o'). Vatican officials say that some pilgrims were greeting their bishop whose first name is Italo (with the accent on the 'a') - a likely story. Mundabor, a native Italian speaker, says that they are chanting 'Vigano' and that's what it sounds like to me. Let's hope that this is a trend.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3889&v=G1cTzALfpY8
     
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  15. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Church Militant shouldn't be doorstepping people - no matter who those people are. Catholic journalists should be better than that.


    It sounded like Italo to me. I definitely heard the "t" sound. I heard "Ee-talo". Also, earlier in the video, the same group appeared to be very excited and happy to be there.
     
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  16. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    So lies from a Catholic representative is acceptable.

    The world has certainly changed.

    :(



     
  17. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

     
  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I wonder if Michael Voris realises what a real danger he is in?

    He has become a real thorn in the side to these people and people who would assist child molesters will stop at nothing.
    Prayers for Michale Voris. I suppose he has a general idea he may be in danger but its not until you come face to face with a stranger with a gun in his hand you realy appreciate things.

    I , at least, appreciate his great courage. Or naivete, whatever. But I am gald he is doing what he is doing, bless him.

    There are huge amounts of money at stake her in legal payments and the money these guys are filching from the Vatican Banks and big Diocesan Accounts. People have been killed for far, far less.

    Yes, bless Micahel Voris and may God take care of him.
     
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  19. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    No, the lies are not acceptable. Neither is the doorstepping, and it's the kind of journalism engaged in by the gutter press. Church Militant must have known that they would get no scoop from their actions - that nobody would give them an interview. The most they could have hoped for was letting people know that Bishop McCarrick has very comfortable accommodation, and a photo would have served that purpose.
     
  20. lol, I saw Fr. Z and Mundabor post about this, but this is the first time I'd listened to it. They're clearly chanting Italo, but you can convince yourself it's Vigano and then start hearing that.
     
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