Joe, Charlie says the rescue will happen by 12/8/17? This reminds me of a site someone recently sent me the link to http://www.fatym.com/view.php?nazevclanku=hodina-milosti-pro-svet&cisloclanku=2013120051, it states "It will be December 8, when the Immaculate Conception crush the serpent's head", they don't say what year, could be next year. Maybe we are too doom and gloom, and there will be a rescue by then. Maybe we will have the Warning and the Miracle in the next few months and many things which CJ has said will come true. I think about the WCWTS sign in progress right now and the prophecies of St.ACE http://www.catholicrevelations.org/PR/bl anna maria katarina emmerick.htm specifically August to October 1820 and she doesn't talk about a chastisement but it is completed with the church more magnificent than ever before. I can see it all as a possibility, this is what we should pray for.
Sorry Carol. Don't know enough to answer you and I can't even recall Charlie giving the date you quote. I try hard to quote him accurately. Happy hunting. I take Charlie and Garabandal separately and only really follow Garabandal which I don't tend to relate to anything much besides Fatima and Akita. I suppose we all have our favourites. I listen with an open heart and mind to Charlie. I believe in Garabandal. I believe in Charlie's integrity.
Respectfully said, ETA. Thank you. Given that we are free to believe or not in private revelation and that there is a plethora of apparitions and messages which will soon either be authenticated or rejected as false, depending on what actually transpires, I expect we may all be surprised to varying degrees. I'm with you on looking forward to the New Beginning.
Hi Carol. Charlie's communication from Archangel Gabriel was that the Resuce will come near the end of 2017. There was not a specific date given, just the general time frame of the end of next year. Whatever and however everything transpires, we do live in incredible times.
So the long and short of it is this: No list forthoming because one cannot be compiled for there is nothing to compile. Secondly, we all generally believe Charlie to be a good man of faith and integrity who if mistaken has perhaps been led astray by his own pride and ego. I do recall his placing his mission in as great if not greater importance than Abraham.
If there is not a list to satisfy your critical eye that is not the fault of A Wee One. Hers is on page 3
Joe the fact is there is no list it's that simple. Everyone and his dog including an entire movie industry had been conscious in some manner of the rebellion against God that leads to auto destruction. For many many year's faithful around the world have been looking towards 2017 and the centenary of the Fatima event. If I tell you now or ten years ago that in late 2017 I might cook a goose I'm sure you won't be too surprised to find me feasting away on my Christmas dinner. In relation to the breakdown of social mores and the veritable rejection of the patrimony of Christian faith and morality in our day well this has been a long time coming. With this degeneration, economic, political and cultural disintegration goes hand in hand. Again nothing new or startling here. Critics and sceptics and a whole industry of preppers has been expecting the SHTF moment for an age. Again there is nothing startling here. Throw me a bone someone
You are of course entitled to your opinion Malachi. As I said, I believe in Garabandal but also 100% in Charlie's integrity. He is true to his word and to the word with which he has been trusted. St Ignatius and Padre Pio were but two saints whom people found difficult. Some even decribed Padre Pio as gruff. When Abraham prepared Isaac as a sacrifice he was following a pagan ritual that demanded such appeasement. He was acting on his conscience. But his conscience was wrongly informed. It was in error. God revealed the truth and Isaac was spared. God's will was quite different to Abraham's conception. The Way revealed to Abraham was new just as the times and the tides that are upon us will introduce new ways. "Those who are not against Me are for Me." "Thise who are not for Me are against Me." Just so with God's prophets. Charlie's message is one of faith, hope and love. It is a message of Salvation. There is nothing in it that contradicts the teaching of The Roman Catholic Church. As far as I can see he is a fine and upstanding example of Roman Catholicism. Despite the calumny and gossip he trusts in Divine Providence just as Mother Teresa did. But in some ways it is new. Not only is his witness subject to the scrutiny and spiritual direction of three priests, his will is subject to the lawful authority of The Church which he has never contested. This is prima facie evidence of authenticity. He obeys therefore he loves. I am not saying that my opinion is of any import but there is nothing in your argument that hold the slightest attraction or interest for me. As Pope Francis says it is not proselytizing that converts but attraction. Charlie's actions and attitudes are mandated by his devotion to Our Lady of Conversion/Tepeyac/Guadaloupe, and they have converted many to a better way of living their Faith as members and potential members of the Church. In comparison I would suggest that many of us have been weighed and found wanting. Preppers actually find justification in the parables about those who keep their wicks trimmed and their lamps full. I have about 3 months worth of supplies in a corner of my own garage. I intend to double those supplies. If I dont use them SVP will. By the way Charlie does not promote prepping beyond prudent provision. The intensity of the approaching decline, degeneration, collapse and terror will take your breath away. Sudden and unexpected will not begin to cover it. A visible world wide rescue by the Immaculate Conception is new. Knowing when it is going to happen is new. Charlie's messages and the messages of Garabandal and Akita are paricularly for the times we are in. Its up to us how we respond. But we have been told. My Catholic faith encompasses Garabandal and considers Charlie. Time will tell. Sorry Malachi, I am on Charlie's and Conchita's side because they are clearly on Mary's and She always leads to Jesus. He wants only that which is good for us. I am sure there are others here who disagree with me. That is their problem.
Joe have you been doing some late night smoking Mary emphatically declared in Fatima the triumph of her immaculate heart and subsequent period of piece. pinning it on the centenary 2017 is what sone would call hedging you bets. I've been reading Charlie's stuff for over two years and have commented numerous times on his site. I like the thrust of his message and his calling people to simplicity and the trustful living of their fAith in the midst of chaos. He has however never predicted or foretold anything new that has come to pass....never. his secular analyis of politics is witty, insightful and generally good to read. But beyond that and his trust do love catch word which I'm sure we all agree with there is nothing new about Charlie at all. Again to reiterate a point I made a while back Malachi Martin through his astute analysis has given us a greater insight Into our current malaise from the vantage point of over 40 years now. Poor Malachi expected upheaval before 2000 and I'd bet a few quid there were more than a few on this forum who were battening down the hatches in the lead up to the millennium. Like a thief in the night...the details really don't matter. Like many here Joe you also are clutching at straws and failing to answer the simple uestion asked. We can talk about context and hermeneutics till the cows come home.
Your questions have been answered over and over. It seems to me you have neither looked nor listened. This exchange is over. There are lots of cows here and they are all coming home. They may not all be Charlies but some are and they are called names like Honesty and Integrity. You take the high road and I'll take the narrow road. Moses wandered and spoke about the promised land for 4o years. Charlie asks us to wait for one.
Chill out Joe. Why so defensive. Simple questions really. And the fundamental question has not been answered but deliberately ignored.
If you are trying to troll for more Charles Job is simply to carry the message and in portions that have been measured out. They may not be to your taste but they are what they are. To me they are like a degustation meal that compliments and gives anticipation for the next course. We just have to wait for dessert. Even if there is no pudding its been a good meal.
Loaded questions and simple answers that you have ignored. I am chilled, in fact I am stone cold, dead to your drift.
Just out of interest Malachi - do you have any agenda in your faith about which we should know? Are you being open and honest?
Of all the current day approved and alleged prophecy that I study, Charlie's is the only one that speaks of the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and era of peace to begin in 2017. All other have much, much purification pending after the Warning and most have the period of Antichrist to follow. Now if Charlie's predictions are correct, he is the only one I know of that will be right on his timing of the triumph and era of peace. If anyone else has any prophecy that goes along with Charlie's, please do post in detail, because his surely is out of the mainstream consensus of the timing and specific events that must unfold before the triumph and era of peace from all I have studied.
As I said. It is new. Still to come to pass - or not. As the Roman comedian Plautus used to say "Quin tu suspendis te" - not to be taken literally. Are you a Traditionalist? A supporter of Lefebvre.
BTW I agree - if Charlie is saying the final triumph is a single event over and done with in an instant at the end of 2017 I find that hard to take. But I don't think he has said this.
