Archbp Vigano: Bergoglio is an ‘anti-Pope,’ BXVI resignation invalid

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by BrianK, Aug 11, 2024.

  1. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    That's ok, Brian. It was off topic, and just my own blathering.

    This pretty much sums up my thinking on it, and the essay in the other thread by Roberto De Mattei just nails everything down.

    People like yourself, imho, are/have been doing the foot work for those who in the future will, with God's help, sort and straighten things out. For what it's worth, don't allow yourself to become overwhelmed by it all ~
     
  2. LusoKnight

    LusoKnight Principalities

  3. Yes I agree. I look to Bishop Strickland who I trust completely.
    I hear pain and hurt that is not of God in archbishop's words. Feelings cannot be used in this matter.
    The bad council, bad Mass is coming and it will be worse than you can imagine, but in order to release the new Evil Mass, they need to trickle down and remove things over and over until we have abomination and it will be accepted by many. Just my humble opinion.
    Slowly boiling the frog..
    Blessed Ann Emmerich and Marie Julie Jahenny are On Point.
     
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  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Well Archbishop Vigano did the Church a big favour in exposing McCarrick and we all owe him a huge debt of gratitude for that.

    But I am afraid he makes me very uneasy and I switched him off a long time ago.
     
  5. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    My feelings exactly.
     
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  6. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I do not mean to be uncharitable.

    But as President Lincoln once said every man's face is, beyond the age of 30, written clearly on his features.

    On the face of Vigano I witness noting but bitterness and bile.

    This is not to say that much of what he says is true.

    But he is however a very, very unreliable witnesss. Therefore I would disregard all that he says in its entirety.

    I place no confidence whatsoever in both himself and all he claims.
     
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  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I never really trusted Vigano right from the beginning. Anymore than I ever trusted Papa Frankie.

    I am not about to start trusting him now.
     
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  8. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    Same.
     
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  9. AED

    AED Powers

    Its a strange business for sure. I sure can't figure it out.
     
  10. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    Archbishop Vigano also did the Church and faithful a favour by warning, in advance, about the 'Covid-vaccines'. Further, he has pointed out issues regarding the validity of 'Pope Francis'.

    The fact that someone makes us uneasy is not necessarily a reason to switch him off. Sometimes it is the facts that are uneasy. We need to face them, with courage.

    God bless!

    Some quotes from the interview with Archbishop Vigano:

    https://exsurgedomine.it/240808-marshall-eng/

    "The charges brought against me are completely inconsistent: I am accused of schism for having questioned the legitimacy of Bergoglio and for having rejected Vatican II. But the law recognizes the non-applicability of the will or intention to commit schism in the case in which the accused person is persuaded that the one who sits on the Throne of Peter is not the Pope and, where the groundlessness of his suspicions is demonstrated, is willing to submit to his authority. I consider Jorge Mario Bergoglio an anti-pope – or better said, a counter-pope, a usurper, an emissary of the anti-Catholic lobby that has infiltrated the Church for decades. The evidence that he is completely alien to the papacy, his multiple heresies, and the coherence of his subversive acts of government and 'magisterium' are very serious elements that cannot be hastily dismissed.

    ...

    The suspicion that the text of the (Third) Secret (of Fatima) has been manipulated is more than well-founded. Beyond the anomalies and technical inconsistencies – such as the format of the paper support used by Sister Lucia – it seems clear to me that the 'revealed' content was censored, so as not to confirm what is there for all to see: the demolition of the Catholic Church from within and the apostasy of the faith through a 'bad Council' (Vatican II) and a 'bad Mass' (Novus Ordo).

    ...

    The Resignation of Benedict XVI, due to the procedural defects and the canonical monstrum that it produced [of two apparent 'popes'], is certainly invalid, as Professor Enrico Maria Radaelli has excellently explained. The invention of the 'Pope Emeritus' further undermined the Petrine Primacy and opened the way to that 'shared papacy' – in a surreal division of munus and ministerium without any theological or canonical basis – which is today evolving into a reinterpretation of the role of the Pontiff in an ecumenical key, as we see in the Study Document 'The Bishop of Rome' that was recently published by the Dicastery for Promoting Christian Unity. ... The fact that Ratzinger may have subjectively believed that he abdicated from the Papacy does not affect the nullity of the Renunciation.

    ...

    When Our Lord became incarnate 2024 years ago, there was neither a king nor a priesthood in Israel. If we are in fact approaching the end times, then I believe that the vacancy of the Apostolic See is destined to last. When He returns to earth, Our Lord will again take up the temporal scepter and the spiritual crown, re-assuming in His own Person the royal and priestly power that today are illegitimate.

    But if Providence were to deign to grant the Church a true Pope, he could be recognized by the condemnation and declaration of nullity of the Council, and the disasters it produced. A holy Pope would abolish the Novus Ordo and restore the traditional Liturgy, because he would have at heart first of all the glory of God, the honor of the Church, and the salvation of souls."
     
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  11. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    I don’t believe much of what Vigano is saying simply because Vigano has said it.

    Much of what he is saying, I and others have already been saying for years. It is good to finally see an archbishop arrive at what to me seem obvious conclusions.

    He’s a bit late to the game but I’m glad he’s finally saying it nonetheless.

    As far as whether Vugano can or should be trusted? I just don’t honestly know and I personally swing back and forth on this.

    But WHAT he’s saying - or a last much of it - is simply indisputable fact now, IMO, regardless of one’s opinions on Vigano himself.
     
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  12. maryrose

    maryrose Powers

    No matter what way you cut it one has to say there is something wrong with the resignation of Benedict and the election of Francis. All I can do is surrender it to the Lord. In time all will be clarified. For now I pray for the church leaders and for our priests who are on the front line. I don't even talk about this outside of here. I know many exceptional catholics and it's not even on their radar. It's when we are directed to abandon the Eucharist we will all have to take a stand.
     
  13. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes
     
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  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes. It's when it comes down to the Abomination of Desolation that a stand will have to be taken. A parting of the ways. But even now if my Parish started blessing pervert couples you would not see me for dust.

    God gave us a pair of feet for a reason and I would use them. There are plenty of other good Catholic Churches to go to.
     
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  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I am afraid I used the off switch on Archbishop Vigano a long time ago and so cannot comment.
     
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  16. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    Much like in the case of Fr. Malachi Martin, we should consider the facts more than the man.
     
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  17. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    Yes, this is the crux and how I too have approached it too. Battle hardened to this raging storm, humility in prayer and quietly offering all to God.
     
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  18. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes.
     
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  19. LusoKnight

    LusoKnight Principalities

    In the case of Fr. Malachi Martin, the integrity and knowledge of the man (that was always there) only became more clear with the facts he exposed and that time has confirmed.
     
  20. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Malachi had an excellence of deportment as well. Like a doctor with an incredible bedside manner.
     

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