Apostasy

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Is the Church heading towards Apostasy?

  1. Yes

    27 vote(s)
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  2. No

    9 vote(s)
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  1. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Your picture has two meanings but you only push one. Your arguments start with "ad hominem" of the anti-church.

    I guess that is your position

    Brother al
     
  2. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    I don't necessarily agree with your Pollyanna-ish view of the world, but I'd never be so mistaken as to tell you that you are going to lose your salvation over it or lead others to do so. That you insist on claiming this repeatedly about those with whom you disagree speaks more about you than your opponents in debate.
     
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  3. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    My view of the world is not as you say...the difference is that i believe God is in command. How i will loose my soul is a different story. That is between God and I. And truthfully, i have failed Him enough, to know that whatever i do....in these final years, does not constitute redemption. So, at this part of my journey, i am a lost soul begging for mercy. But one thing is for sure...in these final years i have led no one to damnation. And it is not my place to judge. But you seem to think i have condemn you and others to the eternal fire. If you read all my posts, i have never directly stated that you or anyone else is going to hell. But I have given warnings like everybody else in this forum.

    And if you feel slighted...then i am sorry.

    Brother al
     
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  4. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Just old Anne Emmerich. I usually leave links but I thought everyone was already familiar enough with her and the church of darkness...http://jeanneshouseafire.blogspot.co.nz/2013/11/blessed-anne-catherine-emmerich.html
     
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  5. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Another crack from Pope Francis at those who care to much about the law...

    ''But be careful! With these words, Jesus wants to warn us also, today, from regarding the outward observance of the law is sufficient to be good Christians. How then to the Pharisees, there is also the danger for us to consider ourselves a place or, worse, better than others simply because they observe the rules, customs, even if we do not love our neighbor, we are hard of heart, we are proud, proud. The literal observance of the precepts is to be sterile if it does not change the heart and does not translate into concrete attitudes: open to the encounter with God and His Word in prayer, seeking justice and peace, assist the poor, the weak, the oppressed. We all know, in our communities, in our parishes, in our neighborhoods, how bad do and give scandal to the Church people who say they are Catholic and very often go to church but later, in their daily lives, they neglect the family, speak ill of others and so on. This is what Jesus condemned, because this is a counter-Christian witness.''http://w2.vatican.va/content/france...ocuments/papa-francesco_angelus_20150830.html
     
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  6. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

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  7. Blue Horizon

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  8. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Does the time frame bring you comfort?
     
  9. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    Hi Mac.
    The records of Bretano, biographer of Blessed Anne are highly questionable. They were ignored in the cause for her beatification. Does your source consist of Bretano's record. He was supposedly anti semitic. There is a good article on Blessed Anne on wiki.
     
  10. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    I just link any old site Joe. My first and only actual hard source is Duponts Catholic Prophecy book.
     
  11. Blue Horizon

    Blue Horizon Guest

    Come on Mac, how about exercising a little adult responsibility and critical judgement before lobbing in these inflammatory media beat ups like Cardinal Kasper and excrement and now this.

    So when we investigate the link ...

    The website presents an interview of a minor moral theologian about his new book. Somewhere in that book the author writes "One could ask ... whether a loyal homosexual loving relationship...could not even have a sacramental character."

    And this means the German Bishops promote homosexual unions as a Sacrament?

    D'oh boy.

     
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  12. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    Does Dupont give any idication as to what and when its prophesies relate?
     
  13. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    It is on the German website. End of story.
    Should we expect them to exercise a little catholic responsibility?
     
  14. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Well if you read the prophecies it indicates the time. When there are 2 popes.
     
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  15. Blue Horizon

    Blue Horizon Guest

    It was a vanity on my part only Mac.
    From your quote's style of language I guestimated your un-named source was 100-200 years old.
    This turned out to be accurate enough.

    Joe beat me to it re the dubious provenance of her "translator".
     
  16. Blue Horizon

    Blue Horizon Guest

    Ah, the "li'l 'ol' innocent me (with wide eyes) ... just repeating I am" opening gambit!

    [​IMG]

    Well the Allies never accepted the "Nurembourg Defence" Mac so I don't think this one will fly any better :cool::cool::cool:.
     
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  17. Blue Horizon

    Blue Horizon Guest

     
  18. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    Well its not now. We only have one Pope. Not like Avignon.
     
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  19. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    Habemus papam, a pope, not an extra pope, one pope: and his name is Francis.
     
  20. Blue Horizon

    Blue Horizon Guest

    The German Bishops do NOT promote homosexual marriage as an 8th Sacrament Mac...

    Yes the sensationalist media beat-ups and their uncritical minions may need to exercise a little Catholic responsibility methinks.
     
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