Another case for 2017

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Rosa, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    It would be nice to compile a list of the difference prophecies, along with their events. I was thinking of doing this on a spreadsheet... but the problem is trying to figure out how to lay the data out. Prophecies are just too abstract.

    Its much like an orchard... prophecies are fruits which ripen in different seasons.
     
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  2. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    Excellent idea. Even if you just choose 2 to 3 events; just a checklist. For example one might choose: The Warning/The Miracle/The Chastisement. Then run down the list of visionaries and see if they had included these events in their writings.
     
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  3. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    I didn't know that there were five prophecies for the 20th Century that Our Lady of Lourdes supposedly gave to St. Bernadette until I saw them listed on a few websites yesterday. A Fr. Antoine LaGrande was reported to have found a letter that St. Bernadette wrote to the Pope shortly before she died in 1879. This Fr. LaGrande was said to have been doing some research on Lourdes in the Vatican Archives in 1997 when he found the letter in a metal box in a vault. Here's a link to one of the websites giving details of the prophecies http://tradcatknight.blogspot.ie/2014/11/the-apocalypsis-according-to-st.html

    I'm wondering whether this was some kind of hoax, otherwise surely there would have been a big fuss when it was discovered. Hard to tell whether it's genuine because, rather like the St. Malachy prophecy about the popes, the prophecies up to the time it was discovered have come true but the final prophecy hasn't although some of it seems to tie in with other prophecies for our time. The final part is particularly interesting:
    “At the end”, Bernadette continued, “the sign of the Cross will conquer and all Muslims will embrace the Christian Faith. Great wealth will follow and the Lord will pour out His blessings over the faithful.” Poverty, disease and hunger have an end, every tenth person will have the power to heal.

    “The 21st Century will be known as the Second Golden Age of mankind”


    Can anyone enlighten me as to whether this story is genuine and there really was a Fr. LaGrande and a letter from St. Bernadette to the Pope?

    I also came across prophecies from Blessed Elena Aiello. Her prophecies from the 1950's/1960's have war between Russia and America, Europe overrun, fire falling from the sky, earthquakes and famine, and the three days of darkness followed by a period of peace. Athough Pope Benedict conferred the "Blessed" title on Elena, the Church hasn't made any ruling on her prophecies. Nevertheless, I think it would be peculiar for the Pope to declare someone Blessed if he considered her claims of private revelations to be a load of rubbish. Perhaps Blessed Elena's prophecies tie in with the interpretation of the Third Secret of Fatima that is claimed was given to the Pope by Sr. Lucia. http://unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.ie/2012/04/prophecies-of-blessed-elena-aiello.html

    I'm still not convinced that all this will happen in 2017 but it is food for thought and prayer.
     
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  4. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels


    It is impossible to know what is going to happen next year... but it sure would be nice to see all the muslims convert to the true faith. Atheists and other haters would have to shut up.
     
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  5. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    Only problem is that Seals 5th, 6th and 7th are regarding the time of abomination, Final Judgement and New Earth [Rev. 7]. If you see similarities with the Warning, it is therefore what I said earlier. Coming of King of Mercy is anticipation of the Coming of the Judge, Warning is anticipation of the Chastisement, Kingdom is anticipation of New Earth, Miracle is anticipation of New Jerusalem
     
  6. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    Hi Mac, I have never asked you straight and its not a gotcha questions but

    1. Do you think the Warning and Miracle of Garabandal will happen?
    2. If so do you think there is a good chance they will happen by April 2018.

    and if you can bring yourself to answering more

    3. Do you think Charlie's prophesy that President Obama will not complete this term of office will be proven?
    4. Do you think there will be a Rescue visible to the whole world by the Blessed Mother in late 2017 as Charlie has prophesied?

    My answers to 1 and 2 are definitely yes
    To 3, yes in all probability.
    My gut answer to 4 is that something will happen.
    It's not so much that I doubt Charlie but that I believe in Garabandal and I have not yet been able to fully reconcile the two.
    Charlie believes in Garabandal also but not in the traditional linear way.

    My apologies if you have already answered these but humour me and do it again.
    There is no hidden motive here - just interested in your opinion.
     
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  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Blessed Anna Maria also mentions the Ilumination of conscience

    http://afterthewarning2016.com/worldwide-warning.php
     
  8. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    I will answer Joe.

    1. Do you think the Warning and Miracle of Garabandal will happen?
    2. If so do you think there is a good chance they will happen by April 2018.

    I think you know that I am happy with the two messages of Garabandal.
    My problem is all the guessing games outside of the messages , started by Conchita herself [and initially encouraged by her], that have lead to many a problem.

    I do not think the' Warning' will happen.
    I will be more than happy to be proven wrong. I think the Warning is a great idea and much needed.

     
  9. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    May I conclude that you don't believe the Miracle will happen either since the Warning is to prepare us for The Miracle?
    I presume you simply discount Charlie?
     
  10. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    3. Do you think Charlie's prophesy that President Obama will not complete this term of office will be proven?
    4. Do you think there will be a Rescue visible to the whole world by the Blessed Mother in late 2017 as Charlie has prophesied?

    3 ...Oddly enough , I think Charlie will get this right. [just my gut feeling]

    4...I hope for the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart, but I cant see it from Charlies view.
    I pray for a Pope who will obey Heavens request.
    Charlie believes it is fulfilled.
    And he even promotes the interpretation that the Bishop in white Gunned down is Pope John Paul II in 81.


    I think most members here do not accept that version.

    Do you Joe , think this is about 1981?
    ... before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.


    You would have to be practically retarded to swallow that.

    [​IMG]

     
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  11. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    Interesting that we agree on #3.
    I think you believe the Chastisement is inevitable rather than conditional. That too is ubderstandable. I tend towards that too. Like you,
    I too believe in the three days of darkness but I feel they will not happen in my lifetime.
    I tried a quick search on TRNS but could not find Charlie saying he thought St JP II was the gunned down pope.
    Can you steer me to that opinion, please.
    I do not agree with that opinion.
    Neither do I think my friend Charlie is retarded so there must be something missing here. Can you help.
     
  12. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    I found it. At least Charlie acknowledges that Fatima is foundational to all this.
     
  13. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    I will have to read his comment again when I am less tired but thank you for your thoughts.
     
  14. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Charlies take...
    “The assassination attempt against John Paul II and its timing identify him as the pope of Fatima, but it is not the point of this secret. The ascent up the hill represents this pope’s particular mission. The city which lies half in ruins is Christianity, half of which no longer believes in God, but says Jesus was merely a good moral teacher. The corpses he meets and prays for on his way are those who, though they breathe, are spiritually dead. The cross at the top of the hill is the end of the pope’s mission on earth. It represents both his triumph and his death to this world. He kneels before it offering his work to Christ. It is after this triumph that the terror begins. It is the body of the pope’s work that the soldiers fire at. That they are in uniform shows that it is an organized effort. These are the legions who have given themselves over to Satan. But the pope has his legions, as well. They are the priests and bishops and religious who joined themselves to him and followed him on his way. They will be true champions for Christ as the battle is joined. Prominent among them will be some of the dead souls – the corpses – reborn to spiritual life through the pope’s prayers.”
     
  15. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Yeah. Let me know. Dont wimp out.[and going from memory ,charlie was quite severe on anyone who had a differing opinion]
     
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  16. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    No whimping here you great curmudgeon. :)
    I have revised it. He says his interpretation of the third secret was originally opinionated thru his mystical experience but not directly transmitted by his angel.

    However he said that after he had expressed his opinion in writing to his spiritual director/priest his heavenly visitor told him that one day his interpretative letter would become a most highly treasured Church document.

    I will still have to sleep on this and no amount of whimp jibing will keep me awake. I just don't know for now. No whimping. Just honesty.

    Good night Jimbo.
     
  17. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Good night.:)
     
  18. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    I did not know Charlie said this so its taken me back a bit. I must admit I am surprisingly being drawn in his direction. Retard or not it now rings true when before, as I said, it did not. I still prefer to have my my brains than yours:ROFLMAO:
     
  19. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Sprinkle some Holy Water.
    It will pass .
     
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  20. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    How many times has John Cleese been married. I just checked - 4. He lost 16 million pounds in his second divorce. He has no time for organised religion. He has spent most of his life in therapy. He blamed his mother at 101 years old for his failure in life. And interestingly you regard him as as a reliable authority. Give me Charlie any day!
     

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