An Exorcist, Pachamama and the Virus

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  1. padraig

    padraig Powers


    ...although on the other hand...

    https://spiritdaily.org/blog/news/mary-foretold-covid-19-pandmic-alleged-visionary-claims

    Mary Foretold Covid-19 Pandemic, Alleged Visionary Claims

    August 9, 2020 by sd

    From CatholicPhilly.com:

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    An Italian woman who claims to regularly experience supernatural visions said Mary told her in September 2019 that a new disease would soon emerge from China.

    “Pray for China, because new diseases will come from there, all ready to infect the air by unknown bacteria,” wrote Gisella Cardia in a message she alleges came from Mary. On the third of every month, hundreds of Italians flock to Trevignano Romano, a small town 30 miles from Rome, to pray the rosary with Cardia. The gathering takes place in an open field atop a cliff overlooking Lake Bracciano. A blue cross and large, encased statue of Mary are the focal points of an array of lawn chairs and benches to accommodate pilgrims.

    On the third of every month, hundreds of Italians flock to Trevignano Romano, a small town 30 miles from Rome, to pray the rosary with Cardia. The gathering takes place in an open field atop a cliff overlooking Lake Bracciano. A blue cross and large, encased statue of Mary are the focal points of an array of lawn chairs and benches to accommodate pilgrims.


    Some pilgrims took photos and videos of the sun, which they said was moving and pulsating.

    Cardia says she receives messages not only on the third of the month, but regularly throughout each day. Hundreds of the supposed messages, which Cardia claims she had been receiving directly from Mary or Jesus since April 2016, are published on the website of the Association of Our Lady of Trevignano Romano.

    The 121-word message that Cardia says refers to the coronavirus was dated Sept. 28, 2019. Catholic News Service was unable to verify that the message was actually posted on that date.

    Mary spoke in September about an “unknown bacteria,” or, as Cardia now says, a “‘virus that would arrive from China’ — after a few months it arrived. It’s never long before what (Mary) says comes to pass.”

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    (Gisella Cardia kneels and looks skyward Aug. 3, 2020, in the moment devotees claim Mary appeared to her and revealed a message. The alleged apparitions take place in Trevignano Romano, Italy. (CNS photo/Robert Duncan)

    Many of Cardia’s messages underline the imminence of the End Times and predict earthquakes, pestilences and wars. She says that the messages are intended to heighten awareness of the reality of evil and sin and to call for the conversion of sinners, primarily through the recitation of the rosary.

    Capuchin Father Flavio Ubodi, author of “I Will Dry Your Tears,” a compendium of the messages to Cardia, identifies same-sex marriage and abortion among the present-day evils for which humanity must repent.

    “The messages are always asking for conversion and prayer; they are not different from those of Fatima or Lourdes or other places,” Cardia told CNS.

    Judging the credibility of an apparition is the task of the local bishop, according to norms published by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

    (See a related story: Church uses caution with claims of Marian apparitions)

    Since Trevignano Romano is located within the Diocese of Civita Castellana, the job of determining the credibility of the apparitions to Cardia falls to Bishop Romano Rossi.

    “The Holy Roman Inquisition hasn’t been set in motion yet,” Bishop Rossi, laughing, told CNS July 31.

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    “I’m not going to make myself the Torquemada of the situation,” he said, referring to Tomas de Torquemada, the Spanish Inquisition’s first chief inquisitor. “We need time. If it comes from men, it will end; if it comes from God, it will grow. We’ll see.”

    “Obviously, I’m in touch with my superiors in Rome about these things,” he added.
     
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  2. Franciscan

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    Unfortunately there is no way to determine if this was posted at that time. I dug around the internet looking via Internet Archive and other using other tools and there is no archive to prove it was existent in September 2019. It would be easy to add it after the fact into earlier posts. If someone can prove that using some method outside that website itself that this was message was actually posted in September 2019, then I would consider it. However all my research shows that there is no such conclusive proof thus far. And if so that there is no external validation, then nothing can constitute proof at this time.
     
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  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

  4. AED

    AED Powers

    Have to agree.
     
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  5. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Really great video
    Thank you Padraig
    You come up with some gems
     
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  6. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Exorcists are very,very special people.

    Warriors. It's always good to listen especially hard to a warrior, they see through all the nonsense.
     
  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Winds of War?

     
  8. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    No, I don't think it will come to that. Just a group butt kicking here and there and some arrests. The small group of protesters tried to interrupt a suburban rural neighborhood gathering of people showing support for police (Blue lives matter) and in the process managed to launch a disabled man from his wheel chair. A veteran. They were out of their element and got what was coming to them and it should have been obvious to them that they were vastly outnumbered in the suburbs and acted more polite in their party crashing. I bet that had they not assaulted anyone they would have not been evicted so forcefully in turn. Half their number turned tail and bolted when things got heated.

    These gatherings of people in places like Seattle and Portland appear to be large groups of people but they are small in number compared to those who surround them in the rural and suburban areas. People keep warning them not to bring their nonsense to the suburbs and they keep testing the waters hoping that nobody will act. It won't last for long.
     
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The BLM protestors looked so young? The fight reminded me of teenagers fighting their parents. There was only ever going to be one winner.

    I was walking down the road yesterday afternoon when I saw a father running and beside him was his young teenage son on a bike. The youngster was shouting angrily at the father and the father was answering him patiently but firmly. I thought to myself it takes great love and patience to be like that.

     
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  10. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Yes they were and they are by their nature inexperienced and fool hardy to think that older generations are old and soft or won't defend the weak and vulnerable. They have no respect for anyone. Well, they got exactly what they deserved. Welcome to manhood young bucks. Don't write checks your body can't cash.
     
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  11. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes Don exactly. There are young people who are so ideologically malformed that they act this way. The media and the schools have worked on them and the churches failed them. Its a heart breaker for parents. St Paul describes this generation perfectly in one of his letters. I don't remember which one but he nails it.
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers



    April 26, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – A bishop appointed last month by Pope Francis as interim leader of Chile’s largest diocese refused Holy Communion to Catholics kneeling to receive at the Chrism Mass. A video released by the Archdiocese of Santiago de Chile, and excerpted by Gloria.TV, shows Bishop Celestino Aós denying Communion to several of the faithful who approached and knelt to receive the sacrament during the April 18 Chrism Mass at the Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela.
     
  13. padraig

    padraig Powers

    So very sad

     
  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    https://www.ourladyofgoodsuccess.com/blogs/news/satan-will-truly-reach-the-top-of-the-church

    "Satan Really Will Succeed in Infiltrating to the Top of the Church" Excerpt from Third Secret of Fatima

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    In the Old Testament, we can read what the Jews did to items that were used for "pagan ritual" AKA "devil worship":

    "And they arose and destroyed the altars that were in Jerusalem, and took away all things in which incense was burnt to idols, and cast them into the torrent Cedron."
    [2 Paralipomenon (2 Chronicles) 30:14]



    There are actually over 150 references in the Holy Bible that are warnings and condemnations in regards to idols.

    Since when then has it been approved to do such acts in the Catholic Church to make idolators feel comfortable with the Catholic Church???

    Does the Vatican really believe this is the way to evangelize???

    But wait--- what did the pope say about evangelizing and converting pagans to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church???

    He doesn't believe in it so much...actually not at all according to the recent events in the Amazon Synod!

    He would rather apologize to the pagan/devil worshipers because their wooden idols were rightfully cast in the Tiber! (at least rightfully according to the Word of God AKA Bible)



    Here is an article from "Church Militant" on how the Pope defended the Catholic Faith- NOT!!

    Pope asks 'pardon' from those offended by 'theft'
    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/pope-asks-pardon-for-pachamama-pilfering

    VATICAN (ChurchMilitant.com) - Pope Francis is apologizing for the furtive removal of the carved fertility figures from a Rome church, and has announced they've been found and might be displayed in St. Peter's Basilica for the Amazon Synod's closing Mass.

    "As bishop of this diocese, I apologize to those who have been offended by this act," said Pope Francis in the opening remarks for Friday's afternoon general congregation, first reported by French media outlet i.media, present in the aula.

    The pontiff referred to the statuettes as "Pachamama" — up till now a pejorative used by by critics who claim she represents the pagan Mother Earth goddess — and announced that Italian police had found them and currently have them in safekeeping.

    "The Commander of the Carabinieri wished to inform us of the retrieval before the news becomes public," he said, adding that "the statues are being kept in the office of the Commander of the Italian Carabinieri."

    Pope Francis said the Commander of the Caribinieri expressed his wishes to follow the synod fathers' directions with regard to other "initiatives" they had in mind, including "the display of the statues at the closing Mass of the Synod."

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    The Carabinieri have since issued a statement explaining the find, saying "they recovered three of the artifacts removed depicting a pregnant woman."

    The statement goes on to say that the Pachamama figures had been "stolen from a side altar ... where they were used for prayer by the 'Itinerant Team' — a Catholic group with headquarters in South America that is taking part in the Amazon Synod ... ."

    In this afternoon's remarks, the pope insisted that the figures had been displayed "without any intention of idolatry" in Santa Maria del Traspontina, lamenting that their "theft" had caused a "media uproar."

    But Amazonian Bp. José Luis Azcona of Marajó in the Amazon region disagrees, confirming that "Pachamama" is a pagan goddess and denouncing the rituals in the Vatican.

    "In those rituals there is the devil, there is magic," he said in a sermon given Oct. 16 in Brazil.

    "The invocation of the statuettes in front of which even some religious have bowed in the Vatican (and I will not mention the religious order to which they belong) is the invocation of the mythical power of Mother Earth, to which they are asking blessings upon humanity or offering gestures of gratitude," he said. "These are scandalous demonic sacrileges, especially for the little ones who can't discern."

    Former Vatican doctrine chief Cdl. Gerhard Müller also appeared to praise the removal of the carved figures, saying on EWTN Thursday, "The great mistake was to bring the idols into the church, not to put them out."

    "To throw it out can be against human law, but to bring the idols into the church was a grave sin, a crime against divine law," he added.

    Here is an excerpt from the interview:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1187499669653544962



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    Those of us who still believe in the prophetic messages and warnings of Our Lady would do well to meditate on the following and realize that those recent actions that happened in Rome and the Synod are calling down vengeance upon itself-and on the Catholic Church and the world as a whole!!!

    And here is the THIRD SECRET ACCORDING TO WHAT FR. LUIGI VILLA ALLOWED TO BE KNOWN and PRINTED IN HIS WRITINGS- as he worked with Cardinal Ottaviani and knew very well the full message of the Third Secret of Fatima- it is a warning to make spiritual preparations:

    "A great punishment shall fall on the entire human race, not today and not tomorrow, but in the second half of the 20th century! In no part of the world is life in order, Satan rules in the highest position, laying down how things should be done. Satan really will Succeed in infiltrating to the top of the Church.

    "For the Church, too, the time of its greatest trial will come. Cardinals will oppose cardinals and bishops against bishops. Satan will march in their midst and there will be great changes at Rome. What is rotten will fall, never to rise again. The Church will be darkened and the world will shake with terror.

    "A great war will break out in the second half of the 20th century. Fire and smoke will fall from heaven, and waters of the oceans will become vapors, the scum will arise in a confused manner, and everything will sink down. Millions and millions of men will perish while this is going on and those who survive will envy the dead. There will be death everywhere as a result of the mistakes of the unfeeling and the partisans of Satan, but when those who survive all these happenings are still alive, they will proclaim God once again and His Glory, and will serve Him as in the time when the world was not so perverted."



     
  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    "A great punishment shall fall on the entire human race, not today and not tomorrow, but in the second half of the 20th century! In no part of the world is life in order, Satan rules in the highest position, laying down how things should be done. Satan really will Succeed in infiltrating to the top of the Church.'

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    August 25, 1991
    “Dear Children! Today also I invite you to prayer, now as never before when my plan has begun to be realized. Satan is strong and wants to sweep away my plans of peace and joy and make you think that my Son is not strong in his decisions. Therefore, I call all of you, dear children, to pray and fast still more firmly. I invite you to self-renunciation for nine days so that, with your help, everything that I desire to realize through the secrets I began in Fatima, may be fulfilled. I call you, dear children, to now grasp the importance of my coming and the seriousness of the situation. I want to save all souls and present them to God. Therefore, let us pray that everything I have begun be fully realized. Thank you for having responded to my call.”



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  16. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Sister Lucia 1957 'the devil is about to engage in a decisive battle against the Blessed Virgin'.

    A decisive battle. There will be one winner and one loser. We know the outcome -- our Blessed Lady will crush the vile serpent with her heel. She will be victorious and Her Immaculate Heart will triumph over the enemy.

    But as in any battle there will be enormous collatoral damage. The eternal desiny of many souls are at stake. If She our Lady is Immaculate and Pure the enemy is all filth and Impurity.

    The spirit of this age is impurity. Sins of the flesh and impurity drag many souls to Hell (contrary to what the present pontiff 'believes'.)

    We are entering the decisive phase -- times are going to get even tougher -- the divisions between good and evil are obvious and manifest to anyone who is spiritually awake.

    The dev-l is a loser but a bad loser -- he has many on his side and his minions can do enormous damage -- Our Lady's army is small but Pure and like David they will slew the Goliath of the spirit of impurity and disobedience that has descended upon this generation.

    So great will Her victory be (and all will know it came from the hands of the lowly Virgin) that she will be acclaimed Co-Redemprix, Mediatrix and Advocate. A lowly and holy Pope will declare the Fifth Marian Dogma in honour of the Triumph of Her Immaculate Heart.

    Ave Maria
    Viva Christo Rey.
     
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  17. Donna259

    Donna259 Powers

    here's a question....does the devil know the future?
     
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  18. nope, but he can make an intelligent guess and use the game of probabilities
     
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  19. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The devil is so smart. In fact smartness is a human word he goes beyond smart. Even for us humans the arrival of IT has added a billion, billion times to our capabilities. For the Fallen angels all this is nothing.

    But if the devil were present in this phenomena he would be implicated in all else.

    His hoof prints would be all over the place.
     
  20. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    While there are no conditions that justify abortion, it is my understanding that the Church teaches that war may be justified under certain strict conditions. The only reality so far is that Trump appears to have de-escalated American military activity abroad since his becoming president. Given that the Chinese actions concerning the emergence of their virus were arguably tantamount to an act of war, it would be imprudent not to prepare for the worst.
     
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