A beautiful Dream about the Warning.

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by padraig, Aug 6, 2012.

  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It's true God did indeed reveal the Warning and other things to St Edmund whilst he was in prison just before he died for the faith under Elizabeth. Why to St Edmund? Why at that particular time?

    It's such a mystery. But perhaps by such mysteries we are prevented from imagining that we in some ways own God and own the future that lies before us. We might become too fatalistic, not open enough to be blow by the winds of the Holy Spirit. But one thing about St Edward...anyone who reads his life can only conclude that he was a very,very special soul indeed. A martyr of martyrs, a saint of saints.

    I am reading the lives of the English martyrs of the period at the moment and Edmund stands out as a rose amidst the flowers of the field:

     
  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The English and Irish martyrs came under martyrs came mostly under the terrible bann of being, 'Hung drawn and quartered and frequently went to their deaths exhibiting signs of supernatural joy, 'Like spouses to a wedding' as St Thomas More commented on witnessing this.

    But it was a terrible , fearful, gruesome death as you can see below:

     
  3. SteveD

    SteveD Guest

    Some of these might be 'veiled' references to the Warning and some may not. I am still expecting and hoping for the Warning but it is notable that there are very few instances of certain or even probable references to it in thousands of prophecies/apparitions. There appears to be no mention of a Garabandal type Warning in the approved apparitions/prophecies that definitely relate to our times - e.g. no mention at Akita, Fatima (including the later prophecies of Lucia nor in the three 'secrets') and especially Quito. I have always found the fact of so few apparent references, to such an enormous event, a bit strange. However, look for references to other events such as the coming of the Great King and there are hundreds and many of them very specific.
     
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  4. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Surely, the miracle of Fatima October 13 1917 with the solar phenomena was a type of warning for the 70 thousand or so present in the area of Fatima and a pre-cursor to the great world-wide Warning prophecised at Garabandal. I happen to believe that the Garabandal apparitions are true private revelation therefore I expect a Warning to occur in my lifetime since I am younger than Conchita. There is enough detail from the Garabandal seers that sketch a vivid picture of what the warning will be like and when it happens everyone will want to be at Garabandal for the Great Miracle. From being a relatively obscure village in the Cantabrian mountains, Garabandal is going to be one of the best known places on earth and please God I might be there for the Great Miracle.

    Since evil has been allowed to grow exponentially as never before because God has allowed satan power in this era then surely the graces given will abound even more:

    St Paul tells us in the book of Romans - Where Sin Abounds, Grace Abounds Much More

    And that is what the Warning is - a great undeserved act of grace for a sick and sinful secular society that has cut the umbilical cord to God the Father. It is the revelation of God the Father's prodigal love for His lost children.
     
  5. SteveD

    SteveD Guest

    Well I hope and believe that you are right. But it is STILL surprising that so few other prophecies clearly match this one, including the Miracle of the Sun. Don't get upset with me for stating what is a reasonable view to hold.
     
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  6. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    To conclude therefore one can deduct by faith and reason that if God has allowed satan greater power and allowed evil to flourish and sin to reign then correspondingly great graces will come to the world.

    We see the grace of God at work in allowing the Blessed Virgin Mary to visit earth in many apparitions in this Marian Age of history. Through prophecy we know that warnings are coming to warn sinful humanity and to save many souls who would otherwise perish. The best known warning is the Illumination or Aviso predicted at Garabandal. But we are also told at Medjugorje that the first 2 secrets will be warnings to the world and these secrets will break the power of satan and the reign of sin in the world.

    The Devil's Century.

    Mirjana was also asked whether the vision of Pope Leo XIII, in which he saw that Satan was given one century to test the Church, was the Twentieth Century.

    Her answer was: "Yes. Many people have known this for a long time.Satan will rule until the first secret is unfolded."

    Mirjana was then asked if the fulfillment of the secrets at Medjugorje break the power of Satan.

    Her answer was: "Yes."

    She was then asked: "How?"

    Her answer was: "That is part of the secrets."

    -from Queen of the Cosmos, Jan Connell, Paraclete Press, 1990

    Fatima
    'Pray, pray very much, and make sacrifices for sinners; for many souls go to hell, because there are none to sacrifice themselves and to pray for them'.
     
  7. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Can you explain where & how I got upset? I was merely presenting a valid interpretation just as your interpretation is valid.
     
  8. SteveD

    SteveD Guest

    Sorry - I thought that you had become a little 'rattled'. I have been patiently (sometimes impatiently) awaiting the Warning for several decades (I am 65 and became aware of Garabandal more than 35 years ago). I was told, by Joey with absolute certainty, that after John XXIII, there would only be three more Popes, there have been four. I nearly gave up hope when Pope JPII died but continue to hope. Conchita said that Pope John Paul II would witness the Miracle from "wherever he happened to be", naturally it was assumed that he would be alive at the time, he is not. Some say that John Paul I doesn't count but Conchita said that one of the three would only reign for a short time and he is the only one to fit that description. We have accept that some things said about the Warning/Miracle have not come to pass and that this is not a major feature of Catholic prophecy. I have absolutely no doubt about the Garabandal visionaries' sincerity but she has been mistaken about some very important facts. I cling on but many have given up. As for Mejugorje, I have been there several times and have been the beneficiary of a kind of illumination while there but I don't believe that the visionaries have ever linked their apparitions to Garabandal - others have done that.
     
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  9. Jane

    Jane Angels

    Dear Steve. God Bless you for waiting so many years for these prophecies.
    I am sorry you have almost discarded Garabandal because of the '3 pope' thing. One of the books I read on Garabandal which was during Pope Paul 11 reign did say. Our Lady said "3 more popes, no 4, because one doesnt really count".
    I can almost imagine what happened the day Conchita told her Aunt about '3 more Popes.' Then through the excitment her Aunt told someone else and so forth. It didn't get a chance to be properly documented before it was talked about. (Maybe, who knows)

    But forget the 3 Pope thing. REMEMBER: What St Padre Pio said when asked if Our Lady was really coming to Garabandal. His answer was "YES" You are not going to get better confirmation than that.
    A government who have no money, why have they spent so much money for a road to Garabandal which leads to a dead end, in a village that only have about 100 elderly people, a town that will be a ghost town within 20 years. WHY? Because it was Our Lady who had Her hand in this.

    Our Lady at La Salette said. "The Holy Father will suffer Greatly. I shall be with him till the end to recieve his sacrifice. The wicked will make a number of attempts on his life without being able to harm him; bur neither he or his successor will see the triumph of God's Church."
    I see this as Our Lady is talking about Pope JP 11.
    If so, neither Pope JP11 or Benedict will see the second coming.

    Medjugorje. Well I have promised not to talk about again. But only one discriminatory thing on Garabandal has given you doubts.(n)
    But I will say. I believe (and I could be wrong). The faithful will have a choice. Either to go to Garabandal or Medjugorje?

    Feel free to continue talking about any doubts you have regards to Garabandal, it's ok. It is wise to be careful, and question prophecies.
    Satan is powerful, he is decieves us and he wants to confuse us. So this is why the faithful need to discuss things.

    Steve. Have you ever been to Garabandal?

    I believe we will see God's Glory within 3 years of the warning. So you are certainly young enough with good health to live through it. I'm sure you will! :)

    And may The Good Lord Bless all of us!
     
  10. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The confusion over the three Popes lies I think in the phrase used by Conchita 'there will be 3 more Popes then 'the end of the times' - what this little phrase means is really open to debate and interpretation. She did not say there will be 3 more Popes the the Warning so Joey Lomangino's interpretation is wrong.

    We are now in the 'end times' as prophecised in the Bible and at Garabandal. This does not mean the end of the world but the end of this civilzation as we now know it. Western civilization has begun to collapse from within - the warning comes when things are at their worst so I feel we have a couple of years to go before that - poor Joey is a saint for waiting patiently for 'new eyes' - he must be around 81 years old or so - the fact that Joey is still alive gives hope that the Warning & Miracle will still happen within the next few years.
     
  11. SteveD

    SteveD Guest

    I'm not entirely convinced, before the fourth Pope arrived, JPII was generally accepted as the Pope of the Warning and Miracle. However, thanks for your responses. You may find this interesting, I must say I have myself, lately, been leaning towards 2017 because it is the anniversary of Fatima. See what you think.

    http://aronbengilad.blogspot.co.uk/ (A Catholic Jew Pontificates Blog)
    Over the years many have speculated when the Warning and the Miracle promised at Garabandal by Our Lady would occur. Today I have been talking with a priest who has known Conchita since 1970 and he is convinced that the Miracle will be on a Holy Thursday (Maundy Thursday). After intense discussion of all the different dates and information united to the Jewish roots we came to the same conclusion that the Miracle would most likely occur on Holy Thursday evening in Spain on 13 April 2017 (which is the eve of 18 Nisan 5777) and that the Warning may occur on Tuesday 18 October 2016.
    The two dates also both occur in the same Jewish year of 5777. 777 represents the Seal of God and the 5 represents the Hand of God which is the Hand of Miriam (Mary). The Muslims call this hand - the Hand of Fatima. Thus the 18 October 2016 (16 Tishrei 5777)Warning would occur during the Jewish feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) in 5777 (2016) and the Miracle during the Jewish feast of Passover in 5777 (2017).

    The hundred years since the apparitions of Fatima began will occur on Saturday 13 May 2017 on which the eve of the Jewish feast of Lag B'omer (Light of the 33rd Day of the counting of Omer) will occur. The one hundred years since the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima will occur on 13 October 2017 (5778) which is Simchat Torah (Rejoicing in the Torah) of 5778 which concludes the Feast of Tabernacles.
    The Gematria of the word Chai (Life) in Hebrew is 18 and I believe that Jesus the Messiah was resurrected on Nisan 18. Chet=8 and yod =10. 13 represents the 13 aspects of Divine Mercy and is associated with the Book (Meggilah) Esther and Queen Esther (a type of Our Lady) who Jewish tradition calls a Redemptress. In 2017 (5777) the 13 March is on the Feast of Purim. Also that year 2017 (5777) the first day of Jewish Pentecost (Shavuot) is on 31 May a day connected to the apparitions of Our Lady of all Nations. The 9th of Av 5777 is on 1 August 2017 and the 9th of Av 5776 is on 13 August 2016, these may be possible dates for the outbreak of a great war possibly with Russia.
    The feast day of Our Lady Help of Christians who is the Patroness of Australia and the Conqueror of Islam is on 24th of May. In 2017 (5777) this feast day is on Yom Yerushalayim (Jerusalem Day) celebrating 50 years since Jerusalem became the capital of the New Israeli State.
     
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  12. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    I am not sure of all the intricate feast days of the Jewish faith but the years given are plausible since by 2016/2017 all the conditions of the prophecies could be met [i.e. the Pope going to Russia/Russian invasion of Europe etc]. Joey would be a great age [86/87?] but by then conditions in the world would certainly 'be at their worst.

    I am inclined to believe that we are a few years yet from the warning and these dates may be close to being correct.
     
  13. SteveD

    SteveD Guest

    Conchita has stated that the Miracle will coincide with a 'great ecclesiastical event' that occurs infrequently. I read somewhere recently that this could be a Papal election and this makes some sense to me. It would beneficially effect the outcome of the election and the coincidence of events would make the election a matter of interest to almost everyone in the world. (Perhaps another 'piece of the jigsaw')
     
  14. Mary's child

    Mary's child Guest

    I agree with you Padraig. I was given a gift. For a long time after returning from Medjugorje, I could look up wherever I was and see the Sun spinning. And especially in difficult moments.

    One morning I remember in particular, I was sitting up in bed saying the rosary, and was very low, worrying. I have epilepsy so usually avoiding light splitting through trees etc, but this particular morning, the light was bobbing in my window, it caused me to look out, and see the sun spinning, was almost like it was dancing. I knew our Blessed Mother was letting me know that she was with me. But the sun seems to be pivotal.. plus, it will refuse to shine for a while.. 3 days
     
  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The sun shınnıng ıs so ınterestıng Mary. Mystıcal ın the truest sense. I am ınclıned on one level to thınk ıt refers to the Eucharıst as ıt ıs so Host lıke and the Eucharıst stands at the epıcentreof our fath. But I also thınk at the prequel to the Warnıng ıt ıs a wake up call before the depths of the Warnıng takes place ın our hearts. People have dumped God but the spınnıng sun saysş I wıll not be dumped.
     
  16. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I was just looking at my last post on this and Is ee it was August 8. So long ago it seems now.:) I feel a little guilty about this, for leaving it so long. When the Irish talk they tend to wander and weave talking about teapots one minute, dogs and sheep the next and ending up somewhere on the far side of the moon.;)

    But I was building up to writing more about a seires of dreams I had about thw Warning I suppose about nine months ago now. TO do so mentioning a number of dreams leading up to these. THe one I will describe now is the last of these and then I will talk about the dreams about the Warning itself.:)

    Over and over in these dreams I entered the most wonderful old Eastern Church . Very beautiful and dark inside. Like nothing at all we have in Ireland , nor indeed like nothing I have seen in Western Europe. One of its wonderful characterisitcs was its wonderful entrance. A huge pillar justr before you wntered the front door surrounded by many holy water fonts. On the inside many pillars and beautifully lit like a dark cae with numerous candles. Not small and stubby as we have them in the West but long thin tapers in their hundreds, the clergy dressed in long dark robes. But most wonderfull abouve the altar a most beutiful golden mosaic, an icon of the Mother and child which often came alive as I moved towards it, an intorduction to the dreams.

    On this last one , I moved again towards the mosaicand found myslef in the sky high above the Balkans. I watched as in different places their were flashes of light, nuclear explosions and felt within myself the horror and fear of the poor people below. One thing I saw that was particularly dreadful. The pople in their serried thousands fled as refugees from the explosions to a large city in the West of the Balkans beside the sea to hide form the terrible explosions. TTHis w2as a city they had become convinced was safe, a refuge. But I knew at once that the people who lauched these explosions had delibarately planned that they should flee their. THere was a great flash and the city was destroyed. I thought it was genocide; deliberate mass murder.

    Then as I looked down I saw the whole region was completely black , like burnt toast, as Mary prophesied at Fatima:.

    Our Lady of Fatima warned that if Her requests were not heeded, Russia would "spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated."

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    You know I have wondered about this since and it might explain why Our Lady appeared at Medugorje at Bosnia-Hercegovina in the region and why the children for the most part choose no longer to live there.....

    Russia as you know considers the Serbs there as fellow Slavs and has a stake in the region....

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  17. SteveD

    SteveD Guest

    The Croats and Balkan Muslims are also Slavs but the Serbs share their Orthodox religion with the Russians and have traditionally looked to Russia for protection and support while the Croats looked for protection to the Catholic empire of Austria-Hungary. If the people were fleeing to the sea (the seaboard being almost entirely Croat territory) then they would probably be Catholic Croats, the Muslims would be fleeing south to the Muslim territories.
     
  18. PotatoSack

    PotatoSack Powers

    I love reading about your dreams padraig - even if they are a little scary sometimes.

    Question - you seem to have a typo in a sentence, so I will post it below:

    One thing I saw that was particularly dreadful. The pople in their serried thousands fled as refugees from the explosions to a large city in the West of the Balkans beside the sea to hide form the terrible explosions.

    Is that the pope fleeing or people fleeing? I presume it's people.

    The poor people of that region! It has been stated that the first 2 secrets of Medj pertain to that region. so these events could be related to the secrets. Although I guess the 3rd Medj secret...the sign left at apparition hill...indicates the town would still be standing. Interesting you should state that many of the seers do not live in Medj anymore. I thought the following still live in Medj - Jakov, Mirjana, Vicka, and Ivan (part-time). But I'm not sure where they all live to be honost.

    Looking forward to your next dreams. I am envious of all you see Padraig!
     
  19. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It was people . One thing I think of now about nuclear explosions os how much terror they bring to people when they see them in the distance.

    How bad people have become. We think of the worst people in human hsitory, the EMperor Nero, Ganghis Khan , the Borgia. Mao Ts TUng, Stalin, Hitler and we think of all the evil they did.

    Yet more people will be killed in milliseconds by even one of the these nukes when they are dropped.

    So if al lthese people were very eveil ..how much, much more evil are the people who would use these things..and I do not distinguish between nation here. Any leader or Governement that uses these things are supremely evil. There is never an excuse for it.
     
  20. svetnik

    svetnik New Member

    Regarding the Fatima prophecy that the communism shall rule again. In Slovenia we now have riots against the goverment. But who is leading these riots? Anarchists and communists, stemming from the Occupy movement, wearing red stars on their caps and waving communist (red) and anarchistic (red and black) flags. Those are mostly young people, who don't even now, how tough it was under the communism. They hold communism as a cure-for-all although it backfired once. They praise the dictator Tito (Tito hero, PM zero), who is responsible for mass killings of tens of thousand of people after the WW2. In the riots they protest also against the catholic church (Money for the people, not for the Church). At the time there is a big campaing going on where they collect signatures to impose additional taxes for the Church. And they are relatively successful. It is such hatred in them and they got momentum that I belive that that prophecy is about to fulfill. Satan's fingerprints can be seen in mass media, who fail to disclose who stands behind the riots and keep repeating that those riots are demonstrations of hungry people who have enough.
     

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