“5 Reasons Christians Love Putin!!!”

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by BrianK, May 12, 2023.

  1. Putin is not a savior.

    Xi is certainly not a boy scout.

    Anyone who sees them wearing white hats are as deceived as the ones who see the globalists as wearing white hats.

    The powerful will all be humbled. Have faith, God is about to bring about a transformation.
     
  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I am glad you posted this. I have been waffling. These words are the truth.
     
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  3. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    True. But God uses who he wants when he wants.

    Take King David. He lusted after a woman he saw bathing to the point he had her husband killed. And yet, he wrote one of the most beautiful, powerful books of Sacred Scripture after he repented.

    You just never know....:)
     

  4. Yes, it is good to exercise some caution. But we must remember, there is already an example in our human history where God also used an adulterer and pagan Constantine to transform Rome into a Christian Empire...
     
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  5. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    The reason I post what I believe to be true is because I think we're living in momentous, truly Biblical times. We should try to understand the truth of what's going on in the world in order to make good decisions.

    If we choose to put our heads in the sand, we're like the shipwrecked guy on the raft who keeps turning down offers of help saying, "God will save me". When he dies God lets him know that he sent help but the drowned man failed to use his intellect and reason to help save himself. For him (and us), it is a much more comfortable and prideful but ultimately deadly position to say "I won't bother myself with those messy things--I'll just pray and let God take care of it".

    Speaking out about covid, especially the vaccine, is an example of this. Many encouraged others to do what they thought best instead of saying "WAIT, DON'T! I think they're trying to kill us!". It was definitely an uncomfortable stand to take at the time. Perhaps in this instance, intentionally NOT being controversial was the type of niceness Mother Angelica spoke of when she said there are many 'nice' people in hell.

    There's almost certainly more of this same baloney coming down the road, and we need to be watchful. More importantly, we may need to fight back again. I believe we're in the battle of all battles, 'the showdown' that Popes JP 2 and Leo Xlll referred to, so we need to fight the good fight using ALL the gifts God has blessed each of us with.
     
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  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Just because we disagree about Putin and Xi does not mean we are not using our God-given abilities. It also doesn’t necessarily mean that we are supporting the other side of the conflict.
     
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  7. InVeritatem

    InVeritatem Archangels

    I personally know someone who adopted a Russian child in the early 2,000s. He told me that it took him years to arrange it. He employed lawyers here. He had to assemble a very large dossier for the case. He and his wife had to travel to the Russian city to appear before a court or tribunal. There were judges sitting and they were interviewed in detail by the judges. All the paperwork was reviewed thoroughly. They were almost unsuccessful in their adoption when there was a problem with their papers. He had to get his lawyer here to fax through the correct documentation. He had to show pictures of the inside of his house. He was asked about all of the antique furniture on display, and what would be their response if the child inadvertantly damaged something. So the Russian authorities went to great lengths to make sure that the child was going to a loving home. They now enjoy their beautiful teenage daughter.
     
  8. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    There's a strong Soros influence in Poland. From what I can remember, Soros was funding a university there and the government tried to shut it down but the court ruled against the government. That loss probably made the government wary of taking on the Soros/globalist interests in other parts of Polish society. There's also the matter of EU funding which is somewhat similar to federal funding in the US. All states, including the nett contributors, receive funds for various projects. The EU have threatened to withhold funding from Poland in the past due Polan's refusal to bow to some of the EU's peculiar immigration policies. In many ways, the EU is not dissimilar to the US. There isn't an EU wide two party system but there are voting blocs that MEPs from various countries align with. The two main blocs are ostensibly left versus right but, like in the US, there's not a lot of difference between them. In practical terms the Commission runs the EU. Commissioners are not directly elected by the people but are individuals appointed by the various member States and given a portfolio in the administration. Commissioners from the bigger countries tend to get the most powerful portfolios.

    The threat of withdrawal of funds doesn't fully explain Poland's gung-ho attitude to a potential WW3. The Poles have good reason to be wary of the Russians but there's nothing Christian about the pursuit of vengeance. I suppose it is possible that the British and the Americans have filled them with fear that Putin wants to invade Poland if Ukraine loses but they can't still believe that, so a thirst for vengeance is the more reasonable explanation. They may also have received promises of investment, Big American bases or weapons manufacturing facilities.

    I mostly agree with you about the war in Ukraine. I would, however, caution you to be wary of the pair on the Duran. They're a good source of information that won't be published in the legacy media but they are very heavily biased and I reckon they are also quite anti-Cathokic. I think they may be Greek Orthodox but I get the impression they are about as devout as our nominal Catholics. Jacob Dreizin is another that leaves me with a sour taste in my mouth - can be a good source of information but an odious manner. Judge Napolitano's guests come across as patriotic Americans. I'm sure they don't get everything exactly right but their background lends weight to their opinions.

    Non sum Dignus is right to warn against placing too much hope in Putin or Xi. They will, at best, keep the anti-family depravity out of their own countries (isn't pornography illegal in China?) but they won't go out of their way to prevent it spreading elsewhere and they won't care if our governments clamp down on Christianity. We can pray that Xi has a Pauline conversion but if that happened the CPC would probably depose him. Looks like we're in for hard times no matter which side prevails. We'll just have to put our trust in the Prince of Peace and be wary of any Christian beating war drums.
     
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  9. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Our Lady of Fatima: wars are a punishment for men’s sins.
    Third or fourth time I’ve posted her words about it.
     
  10. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    Sorry, I'm not saying that there should not be disagreement. I am saying it's easier to never engage in a controversial subject.

    I have no clue about Putin or Xi as individuals. However buying into the empire of lies, as Col. McGregor refers to our media, can lead to war. Looking at both sides and being aware of the lies promotes peace.
     
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  11. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    The globalists, who have no loyal affiliation with any country, have their tentacles everywhere it seems. What you are describing in Poland is how these globalists work to control countries and they're doing it all around the world.

    The best explanation I've heard is that within every country there are factions, so we can't say a single country is entirely good or bad. In the US, the Obamas/Clintons/Bushes/Bidens//Yellen represent the globalist interests. On the other side are Trump/Powell (the current Fed chair)/who else???. It's hard to even define who's who and nobody's perfect.

    What is clear is that the United Nations/ the WHO/ BIS/IMF/ WEF are institutions being used to try and control the world.

    I've heard, but don't know if it's true, that the globalists want China to come out on top because they believe Asians are naturally more obedient to their governments. Most aren't Christian either which makes them easier to control.

    I do think the globalists want to see the US destroyed militarily through war and financially through excessive spending.

    Their ultimate goal is to destroy the Catholic Church and the Mass.
     
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  12. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I know you are right about the end game of the globalists who are Luciferian. But I have to disagree with your statement that looking at both sides and being aware of the lies promotes peace.
     
  13. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    Hmm...what I'm trying to say and may well be doing it poorly:sick:, is that we need to cut through this 'empire of lies' or propaganda to get to the truth. Otherwise we'll be drawn into needless wars with Russia and China. The US is funding a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine right now. And there's incessant chatter about China and Taiwan. I think these globalists want us to dive further into war in order to destroy our country.

    My husband and I say that we think we grew up in a web of lies. We didn't really understand the full extent until the last few years. Heck, we voted for Bush, McCain, and Romney:cry::cry:. As Fathers Goring and Blount have said 2020 really helped our vision. We still don't understand much and we may be wrong a lot, but we're trying.
     
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    The Mystical Body of Christ is ascending to Mount Calvary now. The future of the Church and the world is in the hands of the Prince of Peace. More rosaries.
     
  15. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Psalm 110:1
    “The Lord said to my Lord, sit Thou at my right hand until I make thy enemies thy footstool.”
     
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  16. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    I agree with you that the globalists have their tentacles everywhere and have no loyalty to any country or nation. I don't agree that they want to destroy the US other than spiritually. I think that they have chosen the US to be the means by which they exercise control. Until recently I would have dismissed as crazy anyone who said this but, like you, my eyes are being opened and what I'm seeing makes me question a lot of past events in the world. I had so much admiration for America and, in fairness, the US was the bulwark against a soviet takeover of Western Europe. I still have great affection for ordinary Americans and don't believe for a minute that they wish evil on any country. I also believe that the majority of ordinary Ukrainians aren't fascists. Zelenski wants America to get directly involved in the war but I believe that Biden will avoid that at least until the Presidential elections. The plan appears to be for the Europeans to do the fighting, Failing that, they will probably drag it out until Putin retires in the hope of having an input in the choice of his successor.

    I also agree with you that burying our heads in the sand won't make it go away. Ignorance is not bliss. I do believe, however, that we must be very careful not to give the impression that civil unrest is the solution. What's wrong for the globalists is also wrong for their opponents. In all honesty, I believe that the rot is so deep in Europe and the US that a change of government will make no difference. Sebastian Gorka is a Trump advisor. I saw him interviewed recently and, although his family background is good (his Catholic father was a Hungarian dissident betrayed by infamous British Communist spy) there's something about him that rings warning bells form me. He's anti-Putin but that's not the reason I wouldn't trust him.

    The poison is so widespread that the only solution is for us to pray for Divine intervention.
     
  17. AED

    AED Powers

    I agree Sunnyveil. We all grew up in a web of lies. I voted as you did. I got conned is how I feel. But 2020 was a huge eye opener.
    The sad thing is we have no means to stop this globalist rush to war except prayer. Prayer is our weapon. Rosaries!!!!
     
  18. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Agree
     
  19. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Agree
     
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  20. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    Putin on "Christian Communism" - hint: there is no such thing"Russian President Vladimir Putin has compared Vladimir Lenin to a saint and declared that Soviet communist ideas come from the Bible. Putin was speaking during a documentary about the recently-restored Valaam Monastery on state-funded channel Rossiya 1, which tells the story of the building—located near the border with Finland—over the years.

    A major point of discussion is the October Revolution of 1917, which led to the execution of the staunchly Christian royal family, the formation of the Soviet Union and a new chapter of atheistic and anti-religious policies by the Kremlin.

    Ever since—and particularly after the opening of the Soviet Union under Mikhail Gorbachev in the early 1990s—the role of the church in Russian society has been a dividing issue.

    But Putin, who has often backed the church, tells the documentary makers that he does not believe the ideals of communism and Christianity are incompatible.

    "Maybe I am about to say something that some people will not like, but I will say what I think," he says.

    "Firstly, faith has always accompanied us. It strengthened when things were hard for our people's country. There have been harsh, godfighting years when clerics were destroyed and churches were ruined. But at the same time (Soviets) created a new religion. Indeed, communist ideology is very similar to Christianity."

    Lenin, an atheist who espoused the Marxist view that religion was "the opium of the people," inspired an active campaign to confiscate church property, while his successor, Joseph Stalin, demolished Moscow's biggest cathedral in 1931. In its place he planned a public swimming pool compete with a giant statue of Lenin. Stalin ran out of money for the project but it was later built by Stalin's successor, Nikita Krushchev.

    But Putin argues that like Christianity, communism preaches "freedom, brotherhood, equality." He called the Moral Code of the Builder of Communism, a pamphlet of guiding principles for all party members, a "primitive excerpt from the Bible."

    In ritual too, Putin argued, Lenin and his cohorts borrowed from church practices, though it was unclear if he thought this was a conscious or intuitive effort." https://www.newsweek.com/putin-says-communism-comes-bible-compares-lenin-saint-781328

    Putin is a confused Commie-sympathizer or Comsymp at best who has not totally renounced Communism and Stalinism and falsely believes Communism and Christainity are compatible.
     

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