2016 Presidential Election Thread

Discussion in 'The Spirit of the USA' started by Richard67, Feb 14, 2016.

  1. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    And he discussed the accusations about him and Putin.
    She was shrewder about the limited time factor, hammering out her statements as quickly as possible.
    I hate the smile/laughing she appears to have done at him during the debates.

    IMHO, he needs a miracle and it is always possible that he could get one.
     
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  2. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    I do not believe Donald Trump will be allowed to take office even if he wins by a landslide. We must all do our religious and civil duty, but really, it will take an act of God to counter all of the corruption in the U.S. and it's world partners in crime.

    Communism has crept into every corner of the world and the U.S. has finally completely succumbed to it. This was an interesting document that has resurfaced lately that shows their game plan and how successful they have been.

    Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35
    January 10, 1963
    Current Communist Goals
    EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a
    demonstration of moral strength.
    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and
    regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
    5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
    6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
    7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s
    promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under
    supervision of the U.N.
    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has
    agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
    10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten,
    demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent
    armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as
    easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with
    each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
    12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
    14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions
    by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and
    current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’
    associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations
    which are under Communist attack.
    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing,
    policymaking positions.
    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
    22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic
    expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good
    sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and
    meaningless forms.”
     
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  3. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    CONTINUED

    23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote
    ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a
    violation of free speech and free press.
    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and
    obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural,
    healthy.”
    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion.
    Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does
    not need a “religious crutch.”
    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the
    ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned,
    out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a
    worldwide basis.
    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats
    who had no concern for the “common man.”
    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of
    American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.”
    Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
    32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of
    the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics,
    etc.
    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the
    Communist apparatus.
    34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
    38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies.
    Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but
    psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
    39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means
    of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy
    divorce.
    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of
    parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to
    suppressive influence of parents.
    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of
    the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up
    and use [“]united force[“] to solve economic, political or social problems.
    43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for
    self-government.
    44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
    45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the
    World Court.
     
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  4. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The errors of Russia. And how completely have they infiltrated the West.
     
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  5. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    P
    yes...
     
  6. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    Cardinal Timothy Dolan speaks at a "Respect Life Dinner". I respect his office but not what is coming out of his mouth. Oy veh....

    One of the nation's prominent Catholic cardinals says Hillary Clinton needs to distance herself from her campaign's top advisors after they disparaged the faith in leaked emails.

    KRDO NewsChannel 13’s Heather Skold had the chance to speak with Cardinal Timothy Dolan as he spoke at the "Respect Life Dinner."

    "WikiLeaks" released another round of emails in which Clinton campaign leaders made fun of the faith.

    "Extraordinarily patronizing and insulting to Catholics… If it had been said about the Jewish community, the Islamic community, within 10 minutes there would have been an apology and a complete distancing from those remarks, which hasn't happened yet,” said Cardinal Dolan. “I'm hoping that she's going to distance herself from these remarks by her chief of staff."

    Cardinal Dolan stopped short of endorsing a candidate for president, instead saying that he expects people to be "acquainted with the issues."

    He trusts people to be guided by their moral convictions.
     
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  7. DonnaS

    DonnaS Guest

    tonight is the Alfred E Smith Dinner in NYC....this is a lighthearted dinner for Catholic Charities....traditionally, both candidates will attend with Cardinal Dolan sitting between them. It is a bit of a roast, and poking fun at themselves.....tune in to CSPAN and Fox to watch later.
     
  8. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    View attachment 5496


    Al Smith dinner...

    Sadly, many of the clerics and professed Catholics will be voting for Hillary who supports killing babies as the are being born...as they are literally leaving the womb. This is as satanic as it gets folks ! Abortion is satans sacrament. Any christian or catholic that could enjoy a light hearted dinner with these evil baby killers is not just wrong...it's evil itself! Can you ever envision Jesus toasting the likes of this kind of evil? It's a sin!

    Dolan should have not invited Clinton to this event! He should have condemned her! How can a Catholic Church ignore this? Shame on Dolan!
     
  9. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Dolan should have reminded Catholics of the preeminent voting issue....LIFE! To not make this THE ISSUE for Catholics is wrong. Clinton is as evil as they get. Sorry Dolan.....you are playing politics....NOT WHAT A REPRESENTATIVE of Chirst is called to do! Shame........
     
  10. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Same Dolan that would not cancel Al Smith dinner with proabortion Obama:

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    According to the New York Times, “The Archdiocese of New York confirmed that both Mr. Obama and Mitt Romney, the presumptive Republican nominee, had accepted an invitation to speak on Oct. 18 at the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner, a glittering New York Catholic charity event that has served for more than six decades as a lighthearted pit stop for presidential candidates in the weeks before national elections”.

    Discovering that this was done with Cardinal Dolan’s blessing is devastating.

    Joseph Zwilling, a spokesperson for the New York Diocese told LifeSiteNews: “Cardinal Dolan and the Smith Foundation extended the invitation this year to the two of them. It is non-partisan, it puts aside differences for a good cause to support women and their babies. It brings together people from both sides of the isle for an evening of good humor and good fellowship and civil discourse – something we need more of.”

    The last scene in The Godfather comes to mind. As a newborn baby is baptized and the words of the priest are being heard praying the sacred words of the sacrament, the viewer is visually walked through the calculated killings of each one of the mob family leaders. The open display of hypocrisy in this intermingling of good and evil was startling and unforgettable.

    President Obama’s attending a Catholic Charity to benefit women and their babies is a gross display of such hypocrisy.

    [​IMG]I cannot quite find the words to define the outrage I am feeling.

    The number of “women and their babies” that have been wounded and aborted through both surgical and chemical abortions as a result of President Obama’s policies and actions here at home and around the globe are beyond epidemic numbers. Giving this man a platform at such a high profile Catholic event even outdoes the embarrassment of having seen him speak at Notre Dame because this is being done with the blessing of America’s highest ranking Cardinal.

    Additionally, this will cause massive confusion among Catholics. It allows President Obama to further signal that he’s just one of the guys palling around with notable Catholics that like him and like his policies.

    We are standing at the most serious moral point in our nation’s history. We have a President and his administration that have begun the persecution of Catholic institutions and employers while violating their rights to religious liberty for the first time in American history. He supports and pushes every form of birth control and abortion both within the United States and across the world. And he is the first President to openly endorse and advocate for same-sex marriage!! There is no moral justification for an evening of “good humor and good fellowship” with a President or anyone who by their very actions spit into the face of Jesus Christ and His Church.

    As the highest ranking Cardinal in the United States and President of the Board of the Smith Foundation, Cardinal Dolan can put a stop to this. It is an embarrassment to him and our Catholic Church.

    The ‘tradition’ of inviting the Presidential nominees to this charity dinner does not trump the morality of our nation.

    Cardinal Dolan, we feel betrayed.

    Please send a message to the world that the actions of this President are too egregious and immoral for a night of “good humor and good fellowship”.

    Three words, Cardinal.

    Please.

    “Cancel the dinner.”

    Your credibility in telling Catholics to resist this immoral andunconstitutional Obama birth control mandate is riding on it.

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    I can't help but wonder if the Catholic Church would sponsor a " light hearted/ fun filled" evening with champagne if one of the candidates legalized the public lynching of catholic cardinals? Hummmmm.....so, guess that babies exiting a mothers womb doesn't measure up to the importance of a prince of the church. Just gotta wonder how God views this....
     
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  12. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    There is one thing I just cannot comprehend about abortion. Especially in America where the rights of every person is enshrined in the Constitution. How can anyone justify killing a baby? If a mother were to kill her newborn baby on day 1 after being born, no one would say that it's her right as a woman to do that. But if the mother were to do it 1 day before her baby is born, it's apparently alright :mad: What happened to the baby's right to life?
     
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  13. Harper

    Harper Guest

    The dinner is on YouTube, in its entirety. Don't know the times when Trump and Hillary start. Dolan speaks also:

     
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  14. CathyG

    CathyG Archangels

    It was nasty and the dinner was teeming with Hillary's sycophants who gave her a standing ovation. Just nauseating. Trump hit her hard though.
     
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  15. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    What happened to the baby's right to life? One could blame it on radical femenist, liberal godless democrats, a godless Supreme Court, silent pulpits.....or, at the root cause of all of these elements....ill say it again...Satan.....where all evil originates. Oh, I'll throw in any Catholic/Chritian who votes for candidates who support this slaughter of the unborn. Our nation has become so desensitized to this brutal killing and it is now just accepted as "settled law".
    I keep thinking that anyone who supports this baby killing could not believe in God.....because if they did....how do they stand before God at judgement? How do you justify killing a baby? I just don't know how anyone could justify this brutal act on an innocent baby.
     
  16. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Thanks for the update....I could not stand to watch that sick display.
     
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  17. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Trump is a major hero. What he did tonight was shame every hypocrite sitting there tonight. I have never seen anything like it. Shame on Cardinal Dolan.
     
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  18. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    I so agree with you Beth B.
    I feel that somewhere down the road in their lives, the mothers who aborted their babies will grieve and regret their action.
     
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  19. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    I agree....I actually feel sorry for many of them. I know women who regret them . I actually hold politicians and abortionist more accountable. They are the ones who make it available to desperate women. It's now such a part of the fabric of our culture, that rarely is it even thought about by the public. Many, many churches are silent on the subject....they are accountable . Our society has just accepted it as a way of life. No one wants to talk about it or condemn it because it's not comfortable. Well, the babies being butchered are not comfortable and we should never be silenced because if we are, we will be held accountable to God.

    I am most sincerely sorry for the poor women who had abortions and suffer daily with that regret. It is for that reason too that we need to end this....abortion kills a baby and the heart of the mother....for life.
     
  20. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Didn't the Democrats in the House of Representatives recently vote en masse in favour of legalising the killing of babies who survived abortion? This would have been crossing another legal rubicon, to infanticide. Imagine how far they'll stretch that, if they get their way. Thank God, they were defeated in this instance.
     
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