2016 Presidential Election Thread

I think that Trump can be labeled as a womanizer and Dolours is correct also too many people kept their mouths shut (until now). Dean said it also Trump is not as bad as the Clinton's, not even close in my opinion.

 

He may not be as bad, but he is bad enough that i cannot vote for him

below, 4 women who have accused Trump of Rape. Now can anyone accuse anyone? Sure. But isnt that what we all are furious with clintons about, that there are women who claim to have been abused? If we hold a it for one, we hold it for the other no? Again not saying he is worse, but unacceptable.

Also anyone can be accused of this. Mitt Romney, John McCain, George Bush, Reagan... etc etc etc.. Go back as long as you want. When was one of these people accused of something this bad? They were not. They were high profile rich men too. Republicans used to scream from the roof tops, character matters.

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes...this-lawsuit-has-little-chance-of-succeeding/

https://goddesskerrilyn.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/the-four-women-whove-accused-donald-trump-of-rape/

Mary, mother of God, be our mother now.

 

With that story that you posted about those 2 ladies, one woman had this occur in 1997 and it sounds like they took a payoff, "In 1997, Harth withdrew her lawsuit after Trump agreed to a settlement with Harth’s then-husband over a contractual dispute. Trump continues to deny the allegations." And the other woman, hasn't pursued suing him I suppose? It sounds like an illumination of conscience once again. I guess the woman from 1997 never thought that someday in the future he may run for president but here we are with no real proof that he did anything wrong. This is all so prophetic it is amazing. I never told anyone here on MOG who to vote for I was simply amazed that it seemed as though Brian was suggesting that we don't vote at all over all things that pathetic Billy Bush video. Everyone should vote and vote with your conscience so you will be able to sleep at night. All I know is that I have never prayed so much in my life before this.

 

He looks like a nice man but he hasn't a hope of stopping Clinton.

What if your daughter were pregnant with your grandchild and one of her friends or the father of the child brought her to a PP clinic for "advice"? What if your son were the father and the mother of the child didn't even consult him about the baby because she preferred to "control her own body"? Would you be comfortable knowing that you could at least have curbed the reach of the people who killed your grandchild? It won't happen to your child/grandchild but Clinton will see to it that many young, vulnerable women across the world are persuaded that snuffing out the life of their child is the healthy option. This election is a matter of life or death for unborn babies especially in underdeveloped countries that get US and UN aid.

 

No, that is not what I am furious with the Clinton's about. It's Benghazi, a private email server, WhiteWater (people related to WW turning up dead), referring to some Americans as "deplorables" but claiming to have the ability to reunite the country, I am certain that I am forgetting a few things. But Americans have been blind to it all.

And the only Catholic president we have had was an adulterer.

 

King David did not fall just once.

To put Trump's transgressions in perspective, read what Msgr. Charles Pope had to say about how tremendously flawed King David was. Yet he was God's annointed and chosen to lead the Jews. http://blog.adw.org/2012/01/david-a...ritical-flaw-what-is-the-lesson-for-us-today/

"Trouble begins with the fact that David had eight wives whose names we know: Ahinoam, Abigail, Maacah, Haggith, Abital, and Eglah; later Michal and Bathsheba. The Biblical text suggests he had other wives as well, upon settling in Jerusalem. From these David had 19 sons. Let the internecine intrigue and blood-letting begin.

Disclaimer – It is true that, as many will hasten to point out, that polygamy was common among the ancient patriarchs. Yes, it was. But that it was common does not shield from the fact that, as the Scriptures consistently show, Polygamy always brings terrible results: infighting, rivalries, and often murderous intrigue. I have written more in this problem here: Don’t Do Polygamy"

"First Degree Murder – David, already with many wives and competing sons, deepens the trouble when he has Uriah the Hittite killed, and takes his wife Bathsheba. The remarkably wicked act of murder rooted in lust and fear, shows a deep flaw in King David for which he is repentant, writing Psalm 51, the Miserere. But Bathsheba’s inclusion into the royal family only adds to the intrigue in the family, and the royal court. For she later advances the cause of her son, Solomon, against David’s older sons.

Rape – Even prior to that pot boiling over, tragedy had struck elsewhere in David’s family, among his sons. His eldest Son and likely heir, Amnon grew desirous of, and eventually raped his half sister Tamar daughter of David by his wife Maacah. “Blended families” have a higher degree of sexual abuse for the rather obvious reason that step-relations include less sexual reserve than full-blooded ones.

Weak Father – After the rape, according to Scripture, And when king David heard of these things he was exceedingly grieved: but he would not afflict the spirit of his son Amnon, for he loved him, because he was his firstborn (2 Sam 13:21). This was a mistaken understanding of love. For the love of a Father for his son must include discipline, and insistence on what is right. Amnon had seriously sinned and owed restitution. David remained quiet when he should have spoke and acted.

Resentful Son – Hence, due to David’s inaction, one of David’s other sons (and full brother of Tamar), Absalom, grew furious at what was done to his sister. He thus plotted, and eventually killed Amnon, and then fled to the Land of Geshur. David now had lost two sons and had a daughter who had been raped.

For indeed, though eventually pardoned by his father, King David, Absalom had grown bitter against David and raised an effective rebellion against him. In the war that ensued, Absalom and his rebellion were put down, and Absalom killed."

And there's more.

 

This all might be correct BUT did God not use in the past "bad people" to correct us, to wake us up ? We do not know if the above-mentioned comes from God or not. Are there not holy persons who did terrible things and afterwards they regretted the things they did ? And now they are called Saints ! Trump did say that he regretted what he has said. Of course this could be comedy, but let us give him the benefit of the doubt and the possibility to proof his sincerety. For the moment he is still with his present wife... since several years, non ? Well, he made some progress then.... . Perhaps we should not judge him anymore because of the past but give him that chance of a new start. If not, we can also judge and condemn ourselves because none of us is without sin... The Pope asks us to pray for him (the pope). Then surely we also have to pray for Trump.

After writing the above, I discovered the comments of "djmoforegon". Same reflexion !

 

The worst fact about the purposeful release of the 11 year old lewd "locker room" comments (and now that release is said to have likely been orchestrated by Repub elites possibly via Paul Ryan's own connections....this fact mentioned by Jerry Falwell Jr. .... since Ryan advertised an appearance with Trump the day before release and then dissed him directly after the release. Falwell had been told to watch for such 6 weeks prior) is that those who are most offended and shocked that their own wives or daughters had to be subjected to such ear pollution were the ones who made what was previously kept private; originally made in private and never intended for the ears of anyone who would be so offended; public and for the whole world of innocents, mothers, wives and daughters to be forced to hear. If left in the private world intended....only other willing "types" of same in the room at the time.....such "porn" pollution for the ears would have remained controlled. Those who made such public, knowing the unintended offense it would cause to the masses, to me, are responsible for the spread.....such "pure" elites as they still wish to be considered. Bunch of hypocrites as they are. How many of those remained glued to the "entertainment" "eye candy" and "beyond", during their favorite weekend past time involved with sports both this past weekend and to continue on with no thought of the wives and daughters within their everyday households??

 

Dean said: ↑
Actually IF he did any of those things that he is bragging about, that is assault. That is a crime that will land others in jail.

And other than yourself's "if", developing now into a "crime", you know that your accusation of another here did actually occur? Wow! Better check then on all the "imaginary" claims and desires announced in the locker rooms of the world, by "men" of all ages. As Ben Carson admitted with an assurance of much experience of witnessing lots of that "stuff" himself.....he said he could only rank what he knows is in the real world as "much worse"....."much, much, much worse"....and showed a bit of disgust for all of the feigned shock in order to use such stuff for a greater diabolical purpose.

 

WIKILEAKS EMAILS: Hillary’s Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri TRASHES CATHOLICS

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...director-jennifer-palmieri-trashes-catholics/

 

I'm sorry, but who didn't see this trump train wreck coming? Seriously.....

Everything anyone needed to know about trumps lack of morality was on full display for anyone who cared to see it DURING THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY!

His multiple marriages and the disgusting way he ended them....his numerous vulgar comments about women on the Howard stern show...the vulgar comments about wanting to date his well built daughter....his past support for even the vilest third trimester abortion procedure and liberal positions on social issues ....how he used the political system to enrich himself throughout his whole career. Seriously....who is surprised that the democrats were thrilled that the republicans handed them a candidate who would have such a trail of garbage to throw out there during the general election? The recently leaked emails even exposed this glee among the democrats that ttump would be the nominee! They knew that they had a treasure trove full of Trump scandals. Yes, I get it that Hillary is possibly...and probably much worse than Trump. BUT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY to put up much better men as republicans....and the republicans blew it!

I agree with Fatima ...the time and opportunity is now past for this nation to be rescued by anyone or anything other than God. That either of these two grossly flawed, immoral candidates could rescue America from the moral decay that we are currently living through is absurd. I do not know if trump has converted or not...only God knows. If he has, I hope he beats evil Hillary. But regardless, I do know one thing .....

AMERICAN IS GOING TO GET THE GOVERNMENT THAT IT DESERVES....and it makes me very, very sad. In my heart, I do not believe that either of these two self serving candidates are going to save this nation.

The deal was sealed in the primary....now we are stuck with the consequences of those decisions.

 

Amazed... just amazed.. Clinton ACCUSED of sexual assault... hang him, not fit for office.. evil
Trump ACCUSED of sexual assault... oh it's an old story and not reliable. He is fine.

Both disgusting!

 

After all, the Clinton's are all about the little guy and esp. that little guy within the black community:


In this NEW, riveting testimonial, Bill Clinton’s alleged long-lost son Danney Williams reveals how the Clintons cast him away and his current struggles to reconnect with his reported father:


And some think this young man looks a whole lot more like Bill Clinton....than Chelsea does!

 

To have accompanied my comment above:

 

Except this is not about Bill's sexual exploits. I think Trump invited those women to the debate because that was the best he could to end the Billy Bush nonsense.
(Personally, I am still not over that fact that America re-elected Bill for a 2nd term after he was impeached, yes he was acquitted but still, come on America.)
This is how the Clinton's operate:
Revealed: How Bill Clinton plotted to 'bushwhack' attorney general on airport tarmac and got a promise that Hillary wouldn't be prosecuted over classified emails

• Bombshell Clinton tell-all from Ed Klein, titled 'Guilty as Sin,' spells out how Bill Clinton charmed and intimidated Attorney General Loretta Lynch
• Lynch was presiding over a Justice Department that nervously awaited the FBI's recommendation on whether or not to prosecute Hillary Clinton
• Hillary had exposed classified information to hackers and foreigners by running her State Department emails through an unsecured server
• Bill, Klein writes, extracted a promise from Lynch that Hillary would never face criminal charges

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3822307/How-Bill-Clinton-plotted-bushwhack-attorney-general-airport-tarmac-got-promise-Hillary-wouldn-t-prosecuted-classified-emails.html#ixzz4MoylOBIx
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I am all for anyone who molests, in any way, a woman against her will to be charged with the crime. I am a woman's advocate from way back. It could be because I was raised with six brothers and was in the gender minority in my family. But I find it suspect that these charges are only now surfacing, as of June in one case. At this point Trump doesn't have to be convicted of a crime to shift the unwanted attention from a man who was disbarred and fined nearly one million dollars in just one of his "rape allegations".

 

The current DOJ as well as the last could never now quote Thomas More with his meaning intended since they both have left the country in great danger of the devil's control:

Oh? And when the last law was down [made meaningless], and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide,....the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, [diminish them] .........do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

Today though it appears that it's only the Devil who is receiving "benefit" of the law.

 

Trump never admitted to sexual assault. The Clintons have a history of strongarming their victims and Hillary defended a child-rapist and laughed about it. Trump handled that issue like a Boss:



Bill and Hillary have innocent blood on their hands, not just with their ACTIONS on abortion but also their waging of unjust war in the Balkans and Middle East. Hillary also fully supported the violent overthrow of Yanukovych. There is no comparison between Trump and the Clintons and cowardly Republicans like McCain, Graham, Ryan and the rest of the Neocons who have blood on their hands and who have given Obama concession after concession.

The only way Trump loses is if traitors like Paul Ryan and McCain continue to stab him in the back or if the Democrats engage in massive voter fraud. No one is taking the polls seriously that show Hillary with a double-digit lead and Independents could care less about Trump's lewd words from 11 years ago. The polls saying Hillary is winning are about as believable as believing the Media is not in the bag for Hillary.

Also, anyone who doesn't vote or votes third Party is indirectly voting for Hillary.

 

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/leaked-emails-show-clinton-camp-mocking-catholics

 

Catholics will make or break this election, just like they did with Obama. If Catholics put Hillary in like they put Obama in, then I think God's patience with America will have run its course.