I only mentioned Jim Martin JESUIT -- I've been on his case for years I was an acquaintance of MM.. face to face, work, telephone, books, radio, funeral..
PS... This selection re: Fr. Martin - did come from you.. Yes? Is this a different Fr. Martin than Jim Martin JESUIT? The Third Secret of Fatima
Gotcha. Thank you. There were two Martins in the house. Speaking of Jim Martin JESUIT .. I've tonnes of info on him and have no problem posting at length on him and also of many 1st hand (many days) of contact w/JESUITS - some v.bad..
Oh really! You say that the excerpt “doesn't state that the source of the Kiev reference was John Paul II,” LOL. So why then would Malachi Martin even make references to this pope, linking him with both Russia and Kiev, in response to a Fatima-related question, eh? Need I remind you that upon posting that aforementioned excerpt, I don't recall you acknowledge being aware of its existence? It is worth noting that Fr. Martin "volunteered" all this information--and I don't think he would have done so if he didn't think it was relevant to answering Janzen's specific inquiry. Not once is the Third Fatima Secret ever referenced by Malachi Martin in response to the aforementioned interview segment by Bernard Janzen nor is it alluded to on pg. 324 in "Windswept House." I should know, having actually read the book. Oh, so you take a select quote from an imaginary exchange between fictional characters in a novel (again, pg. 324 ") and passing off the details as being based on "fact." By no objective standard does that constitute "credible" evidence that this is part of the Fatima Third Secret.
Let’s keep it charitable and dispassionate and refrain from personal insults and harsh or unkind rhetoric, folks. Things are getting very dark all around us very quickly, so in discussions with fellow forum members we need to redouble our efforts to keep MOG above the fray.
"Must have opened in disobedience?" I am a little surprised that you would frame it that way. Though there may be no way for us to determine whether he actually did read the contents of the Fatima Third Secret, I have yet to hear or read any claim that he accessed it "in disobedience" even if what we have is his personal recollection and no other.
If I remember correctly Fr Malachi did state that he was made privy to the contents when working as assistant to Cardinal Bea.
Yes, that’s what I recall him saying during one of the Art Bell interviews, and that he acknowledged to having taken an oath as a condition, before he was allowed to read a copy of its contents. Though we may never know for sure if he was telling the truth, what he described in “The Keys To This Blood” (pgs. 630-34 of my copy) appears consistent with other relevant aspects of the Fatima prophecies, so I have no issue believing his claim.
Additionally, I recall seeing a discussion on YouTube involving the late Fr. Nicholas Gruner in which he says that Pope John XXIII handed a copy to Malachi Martin while they were in a car, together. Presumably, Cardinal Bea was there with them, as well. I see no problem with believing that this also took place.
I was an acquaintance of MM.. face to face, work, telephone, books, radio, funeral.. And with all of that said, I Must say again that JESUS is my main GOTO..
Malachi Martin said about a strange light in the sky. That it is contained in Daniel 12 And that the last pope will be under the control of Satan
MM was peritus - theological adviser - to Bea. One of his last book interests concerned a light in the sky. We discussed it a little. The present pope appears to be in the control of Satan.. In the hierarchy of his exorcisms MM placed Lucifer above Satan.. Appears that some Jesuits are into and have peddled Luciferianism.. And with that said, Jesus (and neither MM nor anyone besides God) is my Goto.
In my understanding, Freemasonry is Luciferianism. (Especially in the 33rd degree) Imho I always thought that Satan and Lucifer were the same being. I still think so.
Agree. It is my understanding, low level masons have no idea of this though. They believe they are doing good. There is a reason why Catholics aren't allowed to be Masons.
