Coronavirus

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Adoremus

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    My mother had that too. A dry cough that went on for weeks/months, nothing like she'd ever had before.
     
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  2. BrianK

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    Two principles must be applied during this pandemic, Occam’s Razor and Hanlon’s Razor. It will cut down on all the silly conspiracy theories floating around.

    1) The Chinese communists are arrogant, stupid and incompetent, a deadly mixture. They were experimenting with viruses they never should have tried to contain, nor could they have. It escaped due to their combination of arrogance, incompetence and stupidity.

    2) The west simply failed to comprehend the scale of the epidemic befalling us. They actually believed the CCP’s statistics, and even after realizing they were fake, placed the economy and the market over human lives. Again, arrogance, incompetence and stupidity.

    No conspiracy theories need be ascribed. 7476918F-22CE-4BA4-85D8-DFCC8D944025.png D2034D83-AFBE-4891-9C14-60AB9DA98352.jpeg
     
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  3. DeGaulle

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    Is that the time you got a chest pain, I think it was, and many of us here were quite concerned about you? It could very well be. My wife and I wouldn't be surprised that we contracted it in January either. We had a not very respiratory ailment with gastric complications (vomiting) on my part and gastrointestinal on the part of my wife. We also each had several brief periods of feeling unaccountably cold even with the heating on (usually signs of a raised body temperature) and both us had accompanying aches and pains. I, but thankfully not she who must be obeyed (!), was quite irritable or rather more so than usual. The whole episode lasted us about a fortnight. It didn't interrupt our daily routine. I have heard of a local highly respected and very experienced GP being quoted as saying that this virus has been around since Christmas.

    As to the reaction, what if a truly vicious epidemic such as a more infectious Ebola, emerged? Imagine the fear and panic then.
     
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    Ah, but Ockham was himself guilty of over-simplification leading to the errors of Nominalism.

    While the cock-up theory of history usually explains more than the conspiratorial ones, the devil and all his underlings are undeniably conspiring in the background. The prince of lies unquestionably prompted the lies emanating from the Chinese communists that originally deceived the West into underestimating this epidemic.

    No doubt, the lies were conceived by the Chinese for short-term gain, but will more likely be to their great detriment in the long run.
     
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    My son has read a source which mentions mid-December, 2019.....I think that is when the doctor in Wuhan raised the alarm.
     
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    Right. The jury is still out but I vote for conspiracy. At this time , so far, that is.
    “He that diggeth a pit shall fall into it”
    From Proverbs, somewhere.
     
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    It's a strange virus.

    This is a serious virus for older patients and those with underlying health issues or compromised immune systems.

    But also younger healthy medical staff have died too.

    But for the majority it is a relatively mild virus.
     
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    You are right. Showing us who is still in charge of Life and Death, The Ancient One, the Eternal Father?
     
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  10. I have to say.....people are amazing.....because God is so good in His gifts....and when there is freedom to use them. But even with all of the testing taking place now....even if you test negative you still have to exercise same preventative measures as everyone else...and who is to say how many days it might take, in same surroundings, that you won't come down with it and either not know it or have to just get tested again! But perhaps this will show which areas of the States could possibly be allowed more freedom in the near future.

    Abbott Announces It Will Ship 5-Minute Coronavirus Test

    Abbott announced on Friday that it has developed a five-minute test for coronavirus and will begin shipping 50,000 of the tests a day to hospitals, doctors’ offices, and emergency clinics next week.

    Late Friday night, the company sent out this tweet of the announcement:

    BREAKING: We’re launching a test that can detect COVID-19 in as little as 5 minutes—bringing rapid testing to the frontlines. http://abbo.tt/IDNOW


    This type of rapid testing has not been available in the United States since the start of the coronavirus pandemic. The typical time from securing a patient swab to obtaining positive or negative results using currently available tests is one to four days.

    In the one week period between the start of Saturday, March 21, and the end of Friday, March 27, more than 400,000 coronavirus tests have been completed in the United States, bringing the number of tests completed to more than 600,000 since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic, according to The COVID Tracking Project.


    Abbott (NYSE: ABT) announced today that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for the fastest available molecular point-of-care test for the detection of novel coronavirus (COVID-19), delivering positive results in as little as five minutes and negative results in 13 minutes. The test will run on the company’s ID NOW™ platform, providing rapid results in a wide range of healthcare settings such as physicians’ offices, urgent care clinics and hospital emergency departments.

    The ID NOW platform is small, lightweight (6.6 pounds) and portable (the size of a small toaster), and uses molecular technology, which is valued by clinicians and the scientific community for its high degree of accuracy. ID NOW is already the most widely available molecular point-of-care testing platform in the U.S. today.

    “The COVID-19 pandemic will be fought on multiple fronts, and a portable molecular test that offers results in minutes adds to the broad range of diagnostic solutions needed to combat this virus,” said Robert B. Ford, president and chief operating officer, Abbott. “With rapid testing on ID NOW, healthcare providers can perform molecular point-of-care testing outside the traditional four walls of a hospital in outbreak hotspots.”

    Abbott will be making ID NOW COVID-19 tests available next week to healthcare providers in urgent care settings in the U.S., where the majority of ID NOW instruments are in use today. The company is working with the Administration to deploy tests to areas where they can have the greatest impact.

    “The medical-device maker plans to supply 50,000 tests a day starting April 1, said John Frels, vice president of research and development at Abbott Diagnostics,” Bloomberg News reported. At that rate, Abbott could provide an additional 350,000 of these five-minute tests to medical professionals around the country in the one-week period between April 1 and April 8.

    The availability of these additional tests and the rapidity with which the results will be known are expected to play an important role in the Trump administration’s plan to use extensive testing to address the coronavirus pandemic.

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/03/28/abbott-announces-ship-5-minute-coronavirus-test/
     
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  11. Italy Decrees Going to Church Is Not a Valid Reason for Leaving Home

    ROME — Italy’s Interior Ministry decreed Friday that going to a church to pray does not constitute a valid reason for leaving one’s home during the coronavirus lockdown, and violators are subject to heavy sanctions.

    Italians may leave their residences to purchase cigarettes, food, and medication and to walk their dogs, but they may not go to pray in a church unless they have a superior reason for being out and about and the church happens to fall along their path, in which case they may enter to pray, the Interior Ministry declared.

    In recent days, a number of church leaders have asked whether going to church for one’s spiritual health is more like going to the supermarket and pharmacy, which are considered essential and permitted, or like going to a cinema or sports stadium, considered optional and, therefore, forbidden.

    The Italian state has responded that churches fall into the latter category and thus are an insufficient reason to leave home. Those judged noncompliant with the strict norms restricting movement are subject to a fine between 400 and 3,000 euros, according to regulations released this week.

    Asked expressly whether believers are permitted to leave their homes, with an auto-certification, to go to church to pray, the Interior Ministry responded negatively.

    Church is not considered an essential activity, and, therefore, leaving one’s residence is not permitted, the Ministry said. Stopping at a church may only take place when one is away from home for proven work needs or situations of necessity and the church is located along the route. If stopped by a police officer, the Ministry added, one must show a valid reason for being out, other than simply going to church.

    The Ministry insisted that this decree does not constitute a violation of religious liberty since it is not directed as “persecution against the Church,” but “forms part of the measures necessary to stop the expansion of contagion and for the common good.”

    The Italian government’s decision comes hard on the heels of concerns voiced this week that sweeping state actions to combat the spread of coronavirus endanger religious liberty.

    “When the world deals with a crisis such as this — the coronavirus pandemic — religious freedom is often affected first, especially in countries that are closed off to Christianity,” Dede Laugesen, executive director of Save the Persecuted Christians (STPC), said in an article published last Tuesday.

    The U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) also released a fact sheet this week outlining some of the effects of the coronavirus outbreak on religious liberty worldwide.

    Since the coronavirus outbreak, governments have been implementing various public health interventions to control the spread of the illness, including “large public programs, restrictions on freedom of movement, and government management of critical resources,” USCIRF noted.

    “It is important for governments to account for religious freedom concerns in their responses to COVID-19, for reasons of both legality and policy effectiveness,” USCIRF declared. “From a legal perspective, international law requires governments to preserve individual human rights, including religious freedom, when taking measures to protect public health even in times of crisis.”

    In an article posted Tuesday, Italian journalist Andrea Gagliarducci asked why freedom of worship is not among the compelling reasons for leaving one’s home and why the church has not insisted on this.

    The underlying problem is not just an overreaching state anxious to deprive believers of their rights, but the ready acquiescence of the church to such overreach, Gagliarducci suggested.

    “The problem is that, while in an emergency, the church is not thinking about defending what she has to defend: freedom of worship,” he wrote.

    https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2020/03/28/italy-decrees-going-church-not-valid-reason-leaving-home/
     
  12. BrianK

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    The best explanation?

    Diabolical disorientation.
     
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  13. AED

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    Very interesting to see if there are antibodies. I remember sleeping a lot but there was little to no fever but a very tight sore chest and a dry constant cough.
     
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    I am sorry about your father. I think you mentioned it before but I had forgotten.
     
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    (y)
     
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    It doesnt bear thinking of.
     
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    I pray you are right. I told a friend the other night "when this is over..." and suddenly I started laughing because all I could think of was "There'll be bluebirds over the white cliffs of Dover...tomorrow just you wait and see.."
     
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    Interesting. Could well be. The Blood of the Lamb over the lintel and door posts of our souls...and the Angel passes lightly by....
     
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  19. Lumena

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    Hi from New Zealand. We are in a strict lockdown here. We have so far had 3 days of lockdown. If we violate the rules we are likely to be stopped and questioned by police.

    We are in the early stages. We have cases and clusters. We have 2 people in Intensive care. So far, no deaths.

    My main concern was to ensure all my 4 adult children were on the same Island as their parents. I had to fight hard to get my youngest child, Stephanie, aged 21, back to the South Island of New Zealand. She did not want to come home from her University city. But 24 hours before lockdown, she flew home. Thanks to prayers of many!

    The next morning she was sick. Her main symptoms were a very sore throat amd tiredness/ malaise. I was very concerned. However, she believed it was Strep Throat. The Doctor had a phone consultation with her, and put her on antibiotics on Thursday evening. She began to feel better and by Saturday she seemed to be well! So maybe it was Strep. But Im still observing her. So far, no fever.
     
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  20. AED

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    It seems very capricious in the way it strikes. Alexander Schuggel who threw pachamama in the Tiber became very sick with it for 3 weeks. He is on the mend now. Taylor Marshall interviews him. Interesting. It is a nasty nasty bug. He was deathly I'll. He said God showed him why he was suffering and who(the cause) he was suffering for. He said all the prayers were huge. He credited them with his ability to get over it.
     
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