US Presidential election 2016

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  1. Beth B

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  2. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Did you hear what Trumps neighbor said?

    Shes not running for President so I myself would be careful to use a no context one liner comment to support your position against someone you dislike. Trump says he changed his beliefs on Abortion. Your pushing a scenario like Romney in 2012! He was pro Abortion and changed his mind. Evangelicals wouldn't vote for Roney, 1st for being Mormon and 2nd they couldn't trust he was prolife! Even if he was still pro Abortion, we had a 50/50 chance he was prolife. But so many pre determined Romney was a lier.... How many dead babies and dissected little ones since 2012....I urge you to pause on your pre determined belief.

    I would rather vote for Trump and be deceived that e turned back to unlimited abortion than not vote and let a vicious soul sell body parts....

    Our Lord did tell us to be wise as serpants, and docile as sheep...

    im afraid, if we have elections we will repeat 2012...
     
  3. Beth B

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    Trump has flipped flopped on one issue after another.

    Lifelong Democrat until he decided to run for president....becomes a republican! Wow

    Healthcare....he supported it....now he'll undo it
    Abortion.....he supported it....say he is now ProLife
    Hillary.......he supported her....now she is incompetent
    Planned parenthood... Supported them, then said defund them, then said he'll have to look at it again because they do such great things for women!
    Same sex marriage....he supported it ..now he believes in traditional marriage

    Obama.........said he was doing a fantastic job...now, against him

    Harry Reid and Pelosi...donated to their campaigns, now is against them

    Loved first wife....said she was fantastic....until he cheated on her with his second wife Marla (hooked up in churches in New York while still married to first wife), divorced second wife right before the prenup expired and bought a pretty new wife who is according to him, fantastic (until she's no longer fantastic) whereby he will find a new more fantastic wife!

    Now tell me again why you feel this guy can be trusted with the office of president?

    This guy who admitted that he has never asked God for forgiveness (because he only makes good decisions), this guy who is pathological, verbally abusive, and narcissistic is the one guy amoung a host of other great candidates is your guy?

    No, the Republican Party has many really good candidates( for a change), but this clown is not one of them. He is a dangerous man that could become a worse dictator than Obama.

    Sorry, he may win, but in a primary, I'll be voting for a candidate that at least once has asked God for forgiveness because he knows that HE is a sinner, and more importantly, He doesn't think that HE is actually god.
     
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  4. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Wish I had blue Horizons mind to organize data and kick it out... but im of Moses skills and will do my best. The prolife RHINO candidates... jeb!, who is embarsed by his name for sure...US folks are annoyed by Bushs..

    Marco Rubio...very polished, smooth, quotes the Bible without a teleprompter, even in the last Trump less debate,after Marcos video speeches on the Congress Floor and was called out, he spun away by many conservative critics... Another RHINO favorite

    Intresting, Marcos flip flopping on Imagration a few years ago, how it all aligns with Rupert Murdochs immigration plan, who has his own open borders foundation.... Marcos Press secratery is daughter to one of FOXS debate coordinators... strange days...no wonder they hate Trump

    SETUP anyone....

    DONT mind Rupert behind the curtain!

    Oh, by the way, Wall to WALL Marco Rubio coverage on FOX ALL DAY....hmmmm?
     
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  5. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Im sorry Beth, he and his Dad ran a financial campaign/donations to elect Ronald Regan.
    Hes voted from papa bush till now for repubs Presidents ... Bush or Clinton same same for the most part... kids never saw the light of day.... Lord have Mercy!

    we did are best
     
  6. Beth B

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    Oh, forgot to mention that Trump was for immigrants before he was against them. Yeah, he was....
    He was just smart enough to recognize that he could market his new position to angry Americans on immigration...and it worked! They are buying it!
     
  7. Beth B

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    He helped both parties....whoever he could to buy whoever he needed. He has no moral convictions...for either party. His personal liberal views were only second to his greed and need for wealth. Whoever could he could try to buy, he would .

    He is still for eminent domain that takes private property from citizens so that he can get richer and build bigger, better building than anyone in the world!!! So what about you small fry citizens. What's good for trump, is good....it's fantastic!
     
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  8. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Beth,
    PROLIFE is ALWAYS my first concern when voting!
    Since when Bush/Clinton election. one day was standing on a prolife rally line. Someone came by me and asked if I was a registered voter...I signed up on the spot!
    Voted for LIFE ever since!
    These RINOS SINCE THEN HAVE NOT DONE A DARN THING (sorry caps) to overturn Roe v Wade...so much more has been done thru Govenors and Mother Angelicas Blessed Sacrament Chapel then thru any congresses or Presidents...our Lords words to Mother he would end abortion thru the building of this Chapel...Bob n Penny ...pray for us
     
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  9. Beth B

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    I will agree on one thing....most republicans are RINOs, ( not Cruz) but the worse of them in my mind is Trump. Sadly, his power, name recognition, money and skillfull abilities might land him in the White House....unless the media are holding their powder against him until the general election. I guarantee you that all the filthy dirt there is on how deveious he is will surface once he is the republican candidate. The dems are hoping he is the republican candidate. Last week Harry reid said that he likes trump...said he hopes he is the candidate....then Shumer kicked him to shut him up! Yeah, they want Trump to be the candidate because they need someone with as much dirt as Hillary to cancel her dirt out! But, they don't want the big guns out against trump now....they are just hoping and praying that he is the candidate that has big negitatives....and he does. It's Rubio who poses the biggest risk to Hillary, and they don't want him....at all!
     
  10. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Beth, I can tell by this post you have not listened to Trump on these matters. He has said clearly...YES I WAS ONE OF THEM, I GAVE MONEY TO GET MY PERMITS TO BUILD, I KNOW HOW THEY THINK.... now hes calling them all out as corrupt... is he a hipacrit or convert? St Paul was a well versed jew in the Law, the Lord touched his Heart and became the Greatest!

    I say Trumps for real... and the forum says hes a devil lieing to us

    Im done with the RINOS... rigging elections for along time now
     
  11. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Hillary, like Megan Kelly went after Trump as a womanizer, Bill Clinton was brought out to give Hillary back bone and take Trump down... a couple Trump remarks on Bill and Hillary left Invinvsable Bill Clinton NUETERD and Hillary in the last month hasnt mentioned womanizing on any level thru the World. Bill ,this past week is in the News again ?

    As Donald says, im a good counter puncher...and he is!
     
  12. Beth B

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    Infant, I could not agree more! I really understand that we conservatives are so sick of losing these battles and getting bad candidates, that we want to believe that Trump is capable of getting what we want. Folks are rightfully mad as heck and trumps fighting spirit has attracted them to him! He says what they think...the media is garbage, political correctness has got to go, etc., etc. I get it! I feel the same! But, trump is going to turn out to be the biggest RINO of all! Did you hear him last week saying that since the republican establishment is starting to get behind him that he'll be working with them now....the crowd groaned....they were not happy. He's not even the candidate and he's already flipping on not being a establishment candidate! It's Just amazing...

    I also agree that our best hope is prayer...our rosary. We just cannot compromise our values. I also believe that our nation will get the government that they deserve....sadly, this nation has turned its back on God and I'm not expecting anything good will come from a change in the White House ...it might try worse. God help us...+
     
  13. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    I heard every word trump said about paying off folks to get what he wanted from them....HE was the second half of their evil, currupt deal. He got it out there before his opponents did. That's what he does, he buys things, people, wives and elections. Where is the honor in that? All it shows me is his ability to deceive and use anyone for anything he wants. Right now he is deceiving the voters to get his big deal...the White House.
     
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  14. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Gotta laugh....Grettas show starts off with interview with Marco Rubio... Is anyone suspect of the dominace on FOX pushing Marco today ???

    After the Davos leaders outrage about Trump and muslims comments , the head of advertisement services to FOX and other Networks in the US/World... (LINK ABOVE on another post of mine...) says Trump must be stopped!

    Now every prolife group screams NO TRUMP... My early days in prolife groups I found 99% of folks are first political solution to Abortion. Me and others, said thru prayer and Grace to convert Hearts...

    Im not surprised the political prolife wing is blasting Trump

    Lord, your will be done!
     
  15. Dolours

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    Just as abortion on demand didn't happen overnight, it won't be eliminated overnight. It will happen one step at a time, starting with individual states defunding Planned Parenthood. Isn't that what some Republicans have been doing in their States without so much as moral support from Trump prior to his run for the Republican nomination? Roe v Wade is unlikely to be overturned for many years. Meanwhile, every baby saved from the Planned Parenthood scalpels and scissors is a victory in an epic battle.

    Defunding Planned Parenthood nationally will take a majority in both Houses plus the President because without the Presidency you need a veto proof majority. No matter how much different factions in the Democratic party dislike either Clinton or Sanders, there will be enough died in the wool, lifelong Democrats to vote for whoever their party nominates. The Republicans need a candidate who will appeal, or at least not repulse, independent moderates. Their candidate must be one that lukewarm Democrats feel they can live with if they fear that Sanders is too far to the left or Clinton too untrustworthy. Their candidate must also be one who doesn't make minorities feel so angry that they would vote for any Democrat. Trump is not that candidate.
     
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  16. Beth B

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    I will agree infant...Gods will be done. I'm not hopeful at all for a good outcome for the ProLife issue. I did political work for ProLife candidates since I was a young girl. Some victories and more failures. Now that I'm older, I realize that the hardest work we can do for the unborn is on our knees...praying! As I said, a nation that is turning God away on a daily basis should not expect that he won't actually go...and leave this ungrateful nation to the likes of a godless government...maybe one worse that what we have now...if that's possible.
     
  17. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    You right Infant...trump is a fighter...he's a winner...I totally get that!

    The big problem isssssssssss, trump is a liar. He will not be a conservative...he will do and rule as he pleases. He always does what he wants!
     
  18. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    I will repost this tonight:

    Read what trumps spokesperson tweeted about Catholics..this is Trumps SPOKESPERSON!
    Dear God, what does it take!

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    Just saw a commercial from Catholic Church stating that Catholic Church was started by Jesus. I bet they believe that too. #sad
    8:41 AM - 18 Dec 2011
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  19. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Just to let you know, in the latest Union member poll of.. 1000 members ,300 choose Trump. This is part of the old Regan coalition...and were just starting. Something folks need to keep in mind, TRUMP builds BUILDINGS IN CITYS....all union workers for the most part... As a once Union member, we don't vote as the President casts the support!

    Blue Dog Dems will vote Trump in a majior way...they want US jobs to stay !.... we exported are whole Industrial base for the most part....made in China anyone...
     
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    I have heard
     
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